Peer support subsequent to trauma contributes to full recovery

Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) -- including complex trauma (cPTSD) -- is debilitating, breaking down the body through anxiety and stress, and it poses a significant suicide risk in sufferers. MyPTSD seeks to help and inform those who are directly or indirectly affected by these conditions through peer-to-peer support and educational resources.

Can PTSD Be Cured?

Discussion in 'PTSD Polls' started by anthony, Jun 19, 2006.

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  1. Yes

    69 vote(s)
  2. No

    180 vote(s)
  1. anthony

    anthony ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Hello!

    Ok, at present, it is medically factual that PTSD has No cure, however; it has been stated that people have learnt a technique that adapted to themselves worked for them, thus giving them the belief that they are cured, because no longer do they suffer any of the PTSD symptoms under any circumstances... or so said anyway!

    If so, why? If not, why not?
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  4. Nam

    Nam I'm a VIP

    Jun 16, 2006
    mom, painter
    From a medical standpoint, there probably is no Cure. PTSD permanently changes people. I would like to think I'm cured, but when I look at my life right now, I have made significant changes to feel the way I do. I don't have a job, which has eased my stress greatly, and I'm still on meds, so obviously my mind is still a little off balance. I avoid certain places and people. For me, PTSD is more like an injury to the mind. What is a "cure" for an "injury"? We are permanently scared. I think it's possible to return to somewhat of a normal life and functioning but never like it would be if no PTSD. I'm past the really rough spots, and I've gotten to a point where I'm satisfied with my recovery. The lifelong effects of PTSD has now become a part of me. It's who I am. So with the new me, I consider myself healed, not cured. Can it be? I don't know! If cured means to return to who I was before PTSD, I don't want to be cured. There will never be a magic pill, so I guess I'm leaning toward the no side, but that doesn't mean that you can't heal.
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  5. piglet

    piglet Well-Known Member

    Mar 23, 2006
    Foster Carer and primary school dinner lady!
    I vote no, but hold the hope that it may be possible in the future.
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  6. anthony

    anthony ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Hello!

    I sit pretty much exactly with you Nam, though I am no longer medicated either. I do know though, if stressed, I will relapse under certain symptoms, I could get worse again, so I know I am not cured... though most certainly healed past all the rough bullshit that PTSD puts upon us.

    Amen to that Piglet. I am hoping and providing as much as possible to hope someone develops a cure also.
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  7. carpediem2006

    carpediem2006 Active Member

    Jun 28, 2006
    I have to believe that I will be better, that does not mean to say if presented with a life threatening situation from the same person I would not feel fear or that it would not affect me.

    That it is different depending on the level of threat means that I am getting better.

    To say that PTSD remains forever is depressing and many are misdiagnosed anyway. I refuse to accept it, as doing so would be negative in terms of me expecting to recover.

    Many people recover from rape, being in explosions etc. Ofcourse it is difficult to learn trust again to be comfortable in situations that give a reminder of the threat.

    What is harder still is to accept not only what has happened but that this has caused long lasting harm.

    Forgiveness is also important in dealing with the anger. Reflecting on flashbacks and why they occurred is important, as is recognising the failures in our own behaviours as a response to what has happened. That is a problem becuase although it is a reason, it is not an excuse. That for me is very frustrating, as I look at the negative impact this is having on my life, and how the perpetrators are completely unaffected.
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  8. anthony

    anthony ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Hello!

    Hi Carp...

    Welcome to the community. Your absolutely correct, in that it does become depressing to think there is no end to PTSD, but that is just the medically factual side of this illness. I am certainly not cured, but I am most definately on the other side, the better side, of PTSD. Sure, I cannot put myself in some situations that allow me to get undue stress, because the end result could be quite messy for all concerned, but I can certainly live an improved lifestyle now, than what I was before with uncontrolled PTSD running my life.

    Great to have you here, and look forward to chatting with you.
  9. carpediem2006

    carpediem2006 Active Member

    Jun 28, 2006
    Hi All/Anthony

    I am looking into this in the country where I am living and there is nothing that suggests so far that I see that this is permanent.
    I think that there may be no overlap here between what they call PTSS and PTSD. I have no idea, but if I have now been diagnosed as disabled, I can kiss my career goodbye. I am kind of scared to ask (Sounds PSTDesque, I guess).

    You can never forget what happened. There will always be individual triggers for people (perhaps for yourself loud fireworks), but it is not so abnormal for the body to react to an adverse threat it has learned to be dangerous.

    When I think about it a friend has told me about the time when she was raped and I had no idea. She is outgoing, friendly, adventurous....but for one year could not go out alone many years before we met.

    You have my sympathy for the things you must have seen as I believe them to be worse than my own.

    I do think though that the best thing I can do is try to get a positive mindset about it, look at what I need to do and accept that seeing a psychotherapist is not so negative. In that case I realise that I am also breaking down borders, my own lack of acceptance of needing to get over harassment at work and the above, and a childhood fear that if I talked I would be institutionalised (therefore doctors meds etc are a bad trigger for me). I don't think of the person that did those things badly anymore. I just recognise that they are affected by their own abusive background. What people are capable of doing to one another is amazing. What I want to do is continue to be able to do better for others. Regardless of how many decide that they want to shit on me along the way. Lose faith in yourself and you lose faith in anything of value. (You have me on a positive moment :smile: )
  10. anthony

    anthony ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Hello!

    Well said Carp. Continue along with that attitude, and you will do just fine. Its funny though what you say about how you perceive others events to be worst than your own, as just about everyone here does. People say mine is worst than theirs, though I think the opposite, where theirs is worst than mine. A funny merry-go-round it is, and I think its part and parcel to do with accepting our trauma for what it is, trauma. A terrible event or circumstance thrust upon us unsuspectingly, and we try to extinguish its intensity, or dismiss it as less than what it is.

    Interesting thought perception that one...
  11. aloysius

    aloysius New Member

    Jul 20, 2006
    this mental thing is taking on a renewed life of it's own since starting the research and prep. to submit my paper to the VA for comp./pension
  12. mouse

    mouse Well-Known Member

    Oct 27, 2006
    I dont believe that it can be cured however I do believe that we can learn to live with it and its symptoms and to be able to react appropriatly when we are triggered but that it takes a great seal of work, determination and will power
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  13. becvan

    becvan Queen of the Blunt!
    Premium Member

    Sep 1, 2006
    T. Bay, Ontario Canada
    Nope, I don't believe we can be. Once your brain is altered, how are they going to alter it back? On top of that. when I took EMDR I was told that was a "cure" also.. and look where that got me.

    I believe we can learn how to live healthy and adjust to how we need to live thereby having a better quality of life. Good enough for me.

  14. permban0077

    permban0077 I'm a VIP

    Jul 19, 2006
    Stay home mother
    U.S.A. Kansas
    I am still on the fence. Hope maybe? I have not voted since being here and the poll still waits for my answer above. I just cannot let go that I may be better one day. This one I may be on the fence about for a long time as I feel if I vote a certain no I may lose hope trying.
  15. Linda

    Linda Well-Known Member

    Feb 17, 2007
    I take a life with PTSD as a fight, and I do beleive, that someday I will win.
  16. Snoozer

    Snoozer New Member

    Jul 20, 2007
    Early on I believed that it was possible to be cured from Complex PTSD. As I get older I am understanding that learning to live well with myself and my quirks is more realistic. That through life long learning I can continue to make this work with and for me.
  17. Shinigami_Shimai

    Shinigami_Shimai Active Member

    Jul 8, 2007
    Toronto, Ontario, CAN
    At the point I'm at I don't believe there is a cure and no longer search for one. I just try to accept that this is the person I am and learn how to make it more part of my life, turning nightmares into novels and artwork instead of letting them control me and the like. I've been classed as permanently disabled for nearly 15 years now and I fought it for a time, trying to prove that I could be something more, but now I realize that this is the person I am if the longer I fight it the longer it is going to take me to get better. No cure, just acceptance...

    jaa ne

  18. kkoehler

    kkoehler New Member

    Jul 26, 2007
    I wish PTSD has a cure but like eating disorders, it doesn't. I try to be reminded of how people survived the Great Depression or the Holocaust. It changed the survivors. I hope someday I can say what many of them have. That great trial and tribulation changed us but also made us wiser. "We are survivors". I'm not there yet. I really want to be.

    There may be one cure for PTSD. Prevention. Though its very specific. Its something I've been thinking about. It doesn't cure it after the fact, but I do wonder about preventing trauma if when - if at all possible. There seems to be a moral in there somewhere. I know there is no way of knowing when something terrible will happen but I go back and think about what I could have done different and try very hard to apply that in the hereafter. Like I said, its something I've been thinking about. Though not actually practical.

    In the meanwhile, I'd like it very much if there was a cure for PTSD. I really do.
  19. skyward_falls

    skyward_falls Member

    Jul 30, 2007
    Minooka, IL
    I don't think its a matter of a "cure" or being healed. Its a matter of learning how to cope and live with it each and every day of your life in a healthy way (as much as possible).

    I remember hearing a few news clips about erasing memories - new treatments. I always wondered why. I wouldn't want to lose my memories because it is where I am today that counts and it is a good place (I think those memories are important and I appreciate what I have now because of what I have been through).

    Now, if they could erase the PTSD....I'd sign up for that.
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  20. Auburngirl

    Auburngirl Well-Known Member

    Mar 8, 2008
    I've chosen to believe it can be, because I think that perspective will serve me best in the long run. I want to believe it can be. I think the reality of my experience is that it will fade from the foreground the background, and could emerge again when I'm stressed.
  21. Dylan

    Dylan Well-Known Member

    Apr 18, 2008
    Business Systems Analyst
    At this point, I have to say, 'no'.

    Now, this may be because my gig is CPTSD - and the trauma started when my brain was still developing (4-5 years old). My whole survival hard-wiring is toward hyperarousal, etc. Like many here, I was previously mislabeled and misdiagnosed several times, so proper treatment was really a crap shoot.

    If the PTSD were from, say, a car accident 4 months ago, I would probably believe otherwise. I would have a "before" me to know what I was trying to get back to - I would have some sense of what normalcy looked/felt like.
    I've been reading a lot about PTSD recently, trying to finally come to terms with this dx, and it would seem that trauma which has its origin in "human design" is much more difficult to recover from, whether or not it is is single or multiple event, and occurred later in life. So, recovery from PTSD resulting from a car accident or a tornado - yeah. Torture, Abuse, War? I just don't think so.

    I do believe, having had good results from a form of CBT that I've been working with (for 2+ years now), that I can recover to a degree. I don't believe I'm fated to constant hyperarousal, paranoia, fear, hypervigilance, strange fears, etc, forever.

    I'm coming to see it more as a condition, kind of like a less-lethal cancer or something: untreated, it is insidious and deadly - destroying quality of life, with a high mortality rate. However, with proper treatment, I can live well, provided I continue with treatment. I can even go into remission. But it will never be completely gone. Even with the idea of neuro-plasticity....hmm...I just don't think complete eradication of this thing is possible anymore.

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  22. Riggs413

    Riggs413 Active Member

    May 14, 2008
    Law Enforcement
    Southern Ontario, Canada
    It would be nice, if there was a cure, but I voted no, as I believe that one won't ever be found.

    I do believe like some/most on here that if I can heal to a sufficient degree, I can still lead a productive, though changed, life.
  23. sweetface

    sweetface Member

    Jul 21, 2008
    I voted yes because it's not a mental illness. Its a medical disorder. I was raped at 19 and when I did yoga 2-8 hours per day there was no trace of PTSD, I was strong and had no fear being alone, being near people - ziltch. But when I stopped doing the yoga over time, it came back.

    Cures to me don't mean take a pill and it's all over. To me if action cures the disorder, then you are re-ordering yourself. For me, yoga is as much of a cure as a pill would be for an illness. I just don't have the time for yoga like I used to in my older age. But I am making time for it now. I don't like medicines.
  24. moog

    moog Active Member

    Apr 11, 2008
    Canadian Army
    I voted no and I agree with Nam and Anthony's perspectives.

    A very good friend of mine uses a very harsh saying to describe how PTSD has changed him to people that push for the "hope" that he will become who he once was. "The old XXXXX died years ago, you'll just have to accept that and move on. I did." He lives a fairly stable life now but just like all of us in the world of PTSD; stability is constantly changing. We could have a good day or a great week and then something really small will set us back for a day or even longer.
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  25. Auburngirl

    Auburngirl Well-Known Member

    Mar 8, 2008
    Sweetface - I also find yoga helps enormously. For me a 'cure' isn't a magic pill, it's feeling better and like myself again. I do feel I'll likely have a lifetime of having to be careful not to relapse, but that's no the same as actively being ill.

    But, as I said, I'm less concerned with the medical reality, and more concerned with having an attitude that for me, will help me stay optimistic and get better, and celebrate successes. I know this will be different for everyone. But for me believing I will get 'better' is critical and helps me get through it. And I've seen enough concrete improvements in my condition to honestly believe it's possible.
  26. judyandsus

    judyandsus Active Member

    Jun 17, 2008
    Indiana USA
    I have heard of someone saying that they had (as in the past) PTSD but with help have gone on to live a healthy life. Only thing is if she is so ok then why is she still getting thearpy after all these years? I say no there is no cure
  27. lrs

    lrs Well-Known Member

    Jun 5, 2006
    #25 lrs, Jul 23, 2008
    Last edited by a moderator: Apr 21, 2015
    I voted yes.
    I say this because of my own experience. I had PTSD, and other psychiatric diagnoses for years.
    I was close to dying, no one thought I could ever recover. I was given up as Hopeless after 4 months in a drug rehab, that also had a program for people with PTSD. These were some of the best psychiatrists and counselors in the country.
    Then I discovered something a person can do, something very simple.
    I have not had ANY nightmares, or jumped out of my skin at sudden noises in over 4 years. What were once never ceasing flashbacks are now faint and distant memories.
    I wrote about what happened, and there has been some discussion on this forum.
    If you think your situation is hopeless, believe me, it is not.

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