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Confusion Over The Hate Of Police By Some Veterans?

Discussion in 'Military & Emergency Services' started by Ka-9, Sep 2, 2016.

  1. joeylittle

    joeylittle ˁ˚ᴥ˚ˀ All howl, no bite Administrator Generous $250+

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    I hear you. There is something about really specific ways that our own experiences isolate us. How do I say this - that having been through a thing, and knowing that it's a very specific thing, automatically means that the only other people who can truly understand are the people who went through that exact thing. And even sometimes, not them, if they weren't there on that day. I'm insanely grateful all the time for the fact that we live in a nation with a volunteer army, and I have never had to volunteer, because there are others who do it instead. And there's no way I can ever know what that experience is, no way, no how. I'd imagine that hearing other servicemen attacking servicemen would be double-plus-ungood, too.
    Well, that's actually a way of controlling it. We all develop our methods, right? And expending it (like you do on the heavy bag) is what I'd call effective symptom management. In a strange way, so is shaping your life to be able to be away from too much of the constant stimuli.

    As long as it's not eating you up inside all the time, then you are beating it, not it beating you. It sounds like you are doing that. Also, humor - even when bleak. That's good too. We can't poke at things or laugh at things (even ourselves) unless we've got a tiny bit of distance on them. I don't think it matters if it's the darkest humor on earth - that still means you can find a perspective that isn't only about the pain of it. So, hope you don't judge yourself for that.

    I'm grateful - thanks, really. And I hope that keeping away from the CNN and looking up the nose of a horse plus hitting the bag and all - I hope it helps. Animals are infinitely better than people, especially in the worst moments.
     
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  3. Riot

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    I haven't dissected this post or the comments, but hey, @Ka-9, I'm sorry you feel betrayed and disrespected. That does indeed suck.
     
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  4. Ka-9

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    Hey I got thick skin and all, but in trying to defend my own feelings, I was getting relapses on here ffs...

    That's how people view the police though... not humans, just the state. The ony time someone ever came up and just thanked me? After 3 of our guys got shot. Never before, never since.

    But I appreciate the kind thoughts- seriously.
     
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  5. Ka-9

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    Ah..... I think your first inclination was the correct one.
     
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  7. cactus_jack

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    I will start respecting cops when they start respecting the respective state and US Constitutions and the rights of Americans.

    Like when I, as (then) former fire & rescue reports a woman getting beaten by her boyfriend and not only does the responding cop tell everyone who the RP (me) is, but he then gives all my personal info to the perp and his tramp and tells me it's my problem.

    Or like when I was 17, fresh from being raped, and the detective was giving the info to laughs about it....

    Or when a man forces his way into my home, threatens me for money, and I nearly got 17 years because I went for a gun instead of calling 911. Gee, I dunno. Would the perp let me call 911 or not? I doubt it.

    Respect is a two way street. I'm a terrorist because I stand up for my rights.
    Cops are terrorists because they do everything they can to strip them from me.
     
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    I have no idea who the athlete is or what he's done or what vets defended him.

    I can tell you why MY vet hates the police though.

    He'd been back in country less than two weeks. Goes out on the town with his (now ex) wife. As they are walking home he passes out drunk on the footpath. She sits with him. Two cops come along. They tell her he has to move on. She says he's fine - he's not hurting anyone. He'll sleep it off and be fine in a couple of hours. Nope. They said he has to move on now. She warned them - if you wake him up he'll come up swinging. Cop walked over to him and shook him roughly by the shoulder. He smashed him. They arrested him and beat him up once he was handcuffed. Ended up with a record of assaulting the police.
     
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  9. Joshua Cox

    Joshua Cox Policy Enforcement Banned

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    I think we need more cops. Cops keep alot of this country from turning into a 3rd world, anarchist, terrorist, hell hole. I've seen places with no cops and only scant, overworked, military presence spread thin. Things like tribal warfare, ethnic cleansing, rape, pillage go unchecked alot of times in places devoid of police or similar entity. It can happen here and has to some extent in certain areas where police are demonized. This must be put to rest. Sometimes presence alone can prevent the worst intentions. When presence is not enough to prevent these bad people and their actions from doing harm then police should be supported in just action taken. This should include self defense. Our personal weapons and the cops are what keeps the savages at bay.
     
  10. Joshua Cox

    Joshua Cox Policy Enforcement Banned

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    That sounds like someone who should be in a psyche unit not in public drinking.
     
  11. Joshua Cox

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    Why is Kaepernick so angry at police? I doubt he has been abused by cops. He is an employee for a company to entertain people not piss them off. You want to be a social justice warrior? Do it on your own time.
     
  12. Joshua Cox

    Joshua Cox Policy Enforcement Banned

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    You probably live in a dirt bag liberal state that hates self defense and personally owned firearms. Move to a red state.
     
  13. Joshua Cox

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    That's probably because you never fought for anything other than yourself your whole life. Don't like America? Get out!! Go to Syria and see how much better your terrible life becomes. When your being beheaded for expressing your self remember how bad it was here.
     
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