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Meds that cause other issues.

Discussion in 'Medications & Substances' started by She Cat, May 19, 2017 at 9:50 AM.

  1. She Cat

    She Cat I'm a VIP Premium Member Sponsor $100+

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    One more reason why it's important to make an informed decision when it comes to meds for PTSD or any other conditions, health or mental health wise. I was just put back on a med for acid reflux that does the same thing.

    I'm not happy, and feel like I was forced/coerced to take this drug. I take another med for osteoarthritis that MIGHT have cause acid reflux/Barrett's esophagus and Dr is now threatenening to not give me the med I need for the arthritis, unless I take the med for acid reflux, even though this drug cause osteoporosis. :banghead::banghead:

    http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S8756328212009155
     
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  3. anthony

    anthony ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Hello! Founder

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    LOL... never seen a med that didn't cause other issues.
     
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  4. lostforgottensoul

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    I have never heard of abstract. I HATE HATE HATE HATE my PDoc! I am still thinking of going to the other PDoc in the group. Them and the therapists (LMHCs) all work in a group so the only other I could go to and keep my therapist. My PDoc is like one I was reading somewhere on here 'try this for 3 months and come back if it doesn't work. Try this one and see how you feel...' We did the anti-depressent merry go round and I am sure I have tried most SSRIs at least and then some.

    My therapist saw somewhere that Seriquel and Seriquel XR was approved for BPD and suggested it (though he knows a shit ton about meds, he can't prescribe them) and I told her I would drop her and go to the other doc if she didn't give it to me. Honestly. And she did and I am now SUPER glad!!! It has been the ONLY med that helped to stablize me a bit!

    Only sucky thing is its hella expensive. A bit cheaper now that the US got the generic for XR but still hella expensive. And most of my unstableness is from BPD I think, not PTSD. So I don't know. But yeah, anti-depressants are WAY out of hand! At least here in the US. Its like they think if you pour an anti depressant on it, it goes away.
     
  5. desiderata310

    desiderata310 I'm your Huckleberry Moderator

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    This.
    I've done the whole medication merry-go-round. I'm painfully jealous of people who CAN take meds and get relief from them. I couldn't deal with the side effects.

    All I am taking is prazosin and CURRENTLY I'm taking Zofran for nausea. I discovered through going to the bottom of hell (thank god my therapist was paying attention to what was going on!) that I can't take Phenagren because while it treated my nausea, it made me suicidally depressed.

    I actually lucked out and got a therapist that pays attention and was willing to be my advocate and TALK to the doctors and help me form an honest treatment team. Since they are all in the same group could you talk to your therapist about your concerns and frustrations?
     
  6. anthony

    anthony ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) Hello! Founder

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    And an exact example in play:

    Common Side Effects Prazosin
    • Dizziness or lightheadedness, especially when getting up from a lying or sitting position
    • fainting (sudden)
    So a symptom now caused by a drug, we treat with another drug -- Zofran.

    Heres the kicker....

    What is Zofran?

    Zofran (ondansetron) blocks the actions of chemicals in the body that can trigger nausea and vomiting. Zofran is used to prevent nausea and vomiting that may be caused by surgery, cancer chemotherapy, or radiation treatment. Zofran may be used for purposes not listed in this medication guide.

    Common side effects:
    • Confusion
    • dizziness
    • fast heartbeat
    • fever
    • headache
    • shortness of breath
    • weakness
    Oh snap. Most of those symptoms are found in nausea itself (headache, fever, diarrhea, gas, vomiting, dizziness, lightheadedness, diarrhea, abdominal pain, and a general feeling of being sick to one's stomach).

    Wait a minute. Isn't this medication to treat nausea? Seems like its most common symptoms are to cause nausea.

    Sarcasm is just flowing here.
     
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  7. desiderata310

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    OH I know!
    That said, the nausea and dizziness are from a TBI. Not to treat the symptoms from another drug.
    I take the Zofran for nausea so I can eat.
    I have to take meclizine for dizziness.
    Both are strictly TBI related. That said, I'm pretty sure the Zofran makes the dizziness worse.
    Prazosin is for nightmares. It has... limited impact on those.
     
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  8. She Cat

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    @anthony We all know that drugs cause side effects. Side effects to me, are dizziness, the shits, weakness, and things that just make you feel like shit...... I'm talking about drugs that cause another CONDITION!!!!! SSRI's are now linked to osteoporosis. That to me, is an entirely different animal. It's not a side effect, it's another condition. Am I wrong in thinking this??????
     
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  9. She Cat

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    @desiderata310 I would look into meclizine. I fell in Dec and ended up with a bad concussion. That was the first drug they put me on for the dizziness. If you read the side effects, it actually CAUSES dizziness. They switched me to scopolamine trans derm. That causes dizziness too. I stopped all of the meds they put me on. It was a real tough 2 months, with dizziness, double vision, nausea, and pain, but I finally got over it....
     
  10. anthony

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    Side effects can be symptoms, other conditions, all sorts of things. They're all a side effect of x though, because if you aren't doing x then y side effect is no longer relevant to you. If you got osteoporosis without taking the med, then you get it. If you get with the med, it could be a side effect, it could be isolated. Women are prone to this condition.

    But your question, I am taking as, side effects are only minimal aspects. Incorrect. Side effects can be complete new conditions, but they're a side effect because this med caused it. I guess the issue is always proving whether a med caused x.

    You only need read the side effects for a med: they're usually broken into common, rare, minimal, more important, etc.
     
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  11. She Cat

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    @anthony Thanks. Drugs f*cking suck! I'm beginning to think that it isn't worth it in the long run. Shit, we don't get out of this world alive, so why linger with all of the crappy drugs they give you to prolong life. I'm beginning to adapt the thought, that it's quality of life over quantity.
     
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  12. anthony

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    There was a drug the doctor wanted to put @Nicolette on for menopause sex drive... the side effects were full blown health problems, like cancer and other major shit. We opened the box, pulled out the PDS, started reading it and our jaws dropped. It was insane reading the list of what was listed as side effects. She said it cost $100+. It got opened, then thrown immediately down the rubbish chute.

    Oncologic side effects have included an increased risks of endometrial carcinoma, ovarian cancer, and breast cancer.

    Cardiovascular side effects have included deep and superficial venous thrombosis, pulmonary embolism, thrombophlebitis, increase in blood pressure, and myocardial infarction.


    As we read, it just kept getting worse. We were scratching our heads. What was worse, the common side effects were "loss" of sex drive -- oh snap, the exact reason why it was being prescribed, yet the common side effect is the very thing being prescribed for.

    It just screamed -- take this and die.
     
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  13. Tornadic Thoughts

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    Meds complicated my existence in many ways, that's for sure. I used to think I was receiving some of the best high quality medical care based on having insurance and a doc that made it rather easy to get prescriptions I thought I needed for whatever ailed me, but I learned that wasn't a good thing after all. I no longer take prescription meds but damn sure still deal with the damage done.

    No one in my world ever taught me that your body gets depleted of some pretty significant shit each time we choose to take something (be it prescription, over the counter, or labeled as "natural"). No one bothered to teach or mention that while you may very well be successfully treating a symptom, you're steadily breaking down various systems in doing so. Adding some major insult to injury on top of what they tell us is healthy to consume as far as food and beverage options. It's no wonder there's hardly a healthy human left. For real. If the food system doesn't get ya', the medical system will.

    Without healthily building those systems back up each and every time you choose to medicate something, regardless of the means, you're going to keep dwindling and worsening in some form or fashion, as I learned, creating an even weaker foundation with each medication attempt, but most likely, it'll get labeled as being something else, creating a need for yet another specialist and yet another new prescription. It often feels like divide and conquer at it's best.

    Not much, if any, time is spent helping us understand how each of our systems actually work and what they can healthily recognize and process. Especially in the current hurried scene of 15 minute conveyor belt sessions like you find in many of the arenas were directed to for help, from my experiences. I've since learned that the body does a whole hell of a lot to heal itself. Who knew? I wish like hell I would have known much sooner. Sorry they keep complicating things.