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News 'stop Blaming The Victim' (childhood Sexual Abuse) Petition

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Springer80

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In a recent case in the UK, a representative of the Criminal Prosecution Service and the presiding judge on the same case, described a 13 year anonymous girl who was the victim of a sex crime at the hands of a 41 year old male as 'predatory'.

There has been widespread condemnation and debate about the idea of underage children being jointly responsible for their victimization.

This petition will help to keep the recent pressure up on the British justice system to stop taking the path of least resistance in these cases by blaming the victim.

Please sign and pass it on to as many people or organizations as you feel able. You can sign anonymously and you don't have to be a British resident or citizen.

Show your support. These issues are in dire need of change.
 
The particular case you mentioned absolutely incenses me Springer. The level of ignorance is just astounding and horrific. Sorry. I am so fed up with it all at the moment. I seem to constantly be coming up against ignorant comments from people at present and I am not a happy bunny.

There needs to be some major education implemented.
 
Um.....Having worked in a secondary school, and being out of home quite young myself.....I can actually believe that the 'victim' was not innocent in this by any stretch of the imagination.

It may have been different in previous generations, but with children at this age being exposed to sex, and becoming sexually active at such a young age (ie 11), this seems entirely plausible.

Just because he knew he was getting something young doesn't mean that she didn't go in with her eyes entirely open. Yes, he may have facilitated a situation that was wrong, but if someone has a propensity towards something wrong, a person that willfully eggs the perpetrator on cannot be held blameless.

I know it's hard to believe, and yes it's really easy to use that thought process for rapists and nasty, vicious people to excuse their actions, but it does have it's place sometimes.

JMHO.
 
Bubzilla, I don't know about the UK, but here in Norway we have an age of consent - if a person is under the age of sixteen they cannot consent to sex, and so having sex with a fourteen year old is statutory rape. The law isn't used to prosecute minors or teenagers of about the same level of physical and mental development that have consentual sex, it's meant to protect children and young teenagers from adults who want to have sex with them. I think the man should've known not to have sex with someone so young even if she seemed to want it, same goes for adults and children.
 
I think the man should've known not to have sex with someone so young even if she seemed to want it, same goes for adults and children.
Absolutely. He was most certainly in the wrong.
it's meant to protect children and young teenagers from adults who want to have sex with them.
Yes, here in Australia we have the same thing. However I think the legal system is also starting to recognize the fact that my generation (I'm 23) and younger are getting sexualized and aware much younger, and so the judge's response reflected that.

As someone who was exposed to MUCH older men, I can tell you that many very young girls know EXACTLY what they were doing (including myself), but I do recognize that older men have the mental resources to recognize and prey on girls that don't know to protect themselves.

It's a messy topic, and can only really work in specific scenarios.
 
EXACTLY what they were doing

Teenagers and children generally aren't as good as adults in understanding the full consequences of their actions - though I knew at 13 that sex may result in pregnancy and STDs, I probably still do not fully understand how physically, practically and mentally stressful having a baby is. Maybe she wanted have sex with him, as expressed I just don't think it makes a difference - unless the man is unfit to be in charge of his own life, I view the full responsibility to be on him.
 
There are a lot of reasons why a 13 year old may be sexually very out there. Some of them are past abuse both sexual, physical or emotional. Broken and dysfunctional families and personality disorders or mental health issues etc too. Children are also sexualised early often these days.

The whole point of the age of consent is to stop predatory adults abusing all these things at the expense of a child. Childrens brains have not fully developed and they are not capable of making informed decisions no matter what they think.

So a 13 year old is responsible and took advantage of a 41 year old paedophile whose computer was jam packed full of child pornography? Poor, poor 41 year old paedophile.

Children are protected by law for good reason. If a 13 year old takes off her clothes and presents herself to a 41 year old it is their responsibility to turn her down and act like a responsible adult.

Yes many 13 year olds are sexually active but that is totally irrelevant.

It astonishes me that the judge did not think that even the child abuse on his computer was enough to send him to jail.
 
Bubzilla--as someone who worked in secondary education and someone who was extremely sexually active before 18 (many dozens of partners) uhm... girls don't end up sexually active at 13 on accident. They are taught to go out seeking sex in self-destructive ways. We have age of consent laws because these CHILDREN are not capable of understanding the full ramifications of their actions. That is why adults are treated differently. Supposedly the adults are capable of understanding the consequences.

A 41 year old who has sex with a 13 year old should be put in jail. Period. And calling the 13 year old predatory is victim blaming and shaming. Was she willing? Probably. Why was she willing? Why was she out looking for sex at 13? I sincerely doubt it is because she was born a freaking predator. Give me a break. Oh those poor 41 year olds who fall victim to children. Let's all feel pity for them.

Uhm, yeah. I don't think you are going to win this argument in this space.
 
When children inappropriately give sexual come-ons to adults the correct response is "No." That's how boundaries work. Children test boundaries all the time. That is what they are supposed to do. If an adult cannot hold boundaries... why is that the child's fault? Oops I fell and my penis slipped in to her but it was all her fault because she laid down on the floor first?
 
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