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from Pete Walkers Complex PTSD from surviving to thriving
"....bullying alone can cause Cptsd. If it goes on long enough as it does with bullying parents in a dysfunctional family, in can cause Cptsd."
p. 112
IMHO think bullying that is severe enough to give you PTSD is better referred to as emotional abuse?
IMHO think bullying that is severe enough to give you PTSD is better referred to as emotional abuse?
YepEmotional abuse cannot cause PTSD. But bullying is not just emotional. Actually many times...
And I can think of instances where emotional abuse could represent a Criterion A trauma and could therefore cause PTSD.
And I can think of instances where emotional abuse could represent a Criterion A trauma and could therefore cause PTSD.
is why I stated that. And I am not one to argue what can and cannot cause PTSD but I have now read in several threads that emotional abuse alone (and I also remember anthony, I believe it was, stated bullying alone cannot cause PTSD). Can emotional abuse cause PTSD? I have no idea. And am not arguing it nor am I trying to derail the thread but rather advise why I stated what I did.According to the current diagnostic criteria, emotional abuse alone cannot cause PTSD, and it is not the criteria for, or definition of, CPTSD.
Sexual abuse isn't bullying, it's sexual abuse. Not sexual bullying, sexualised bullying or any other term that minimises what's happening. Bullying does cover a range of behaviours but calling patently illegal, harmful activity as bullying is minimising in the extreme. Same with physical assault, when we stop calling the assault of one child towards another "bullying" and start recognising it as the assault that it is we'll go some way to taking bullying seriously.
I know they would tell you to do your own research rather than regurgitating their views as your own.
Yes, and one of the few achievements of the law (cough, splutter) in this area is it makes it clear that there is a myriad different ways these things can play out, and just as many ways they can be labelled. There’s lots of different potential offences that might involve (or not) a sexualised component, and the same can be said for actions containing a bullying component, or an emotional abuse component.the law seems quite clear about bullying, sexual and physical assault. We might minise that difference but the law is clear.
Yes - this is always where I get a little hung up on bullying. Bully is a word that has been in common use for a very long time, and used to mean a few different things - it's gone from meaning 'sweetheart', to 'fine/good', to 'blustering', to what we know it as today.Bullying is a rather blanket term I have learned and it can include emotional, physical, and sexual assualt via other children or even adults. To the point of suicide many times. I guess the question is, when do we stop calling it bullying and start calling it what it is: assualt and/or emotional abuse?
Dr. Peter Paul Heinemann...developed a theory about bullying after witnessing the local community’s hostility toward his adopted son...Heinemann looked to the behavior of animals—specifically mobbing, a violent, instinctual behavior of birds assaulting a weaker member of their own species—and in turn applied the concept to a group’s aggression against a particular child. A young Swedish academic named Dan Olweus...disagreed with the idea that mobbing was a “crowd” behavior...Typically, a small group of two or three students would do the majority of the bullying that occurred in a class...When Olweus translated his 1978 book Aggression in the Schools from Swedish into English, he chose the English word bullying to describe these cruel schoolyard behaviors. Over time, Olweus refined the meaning of bullying to include three conditions: Bullying is (1) repeated (2) deliberate verbal or physical abuse by (3) someone with more power than his or her target.
(you could sum up my whole post as, "yes, what she said")Bullying is a term that could mean anything from harassment to assault, and even both of those interchangeably. So whether bullying amounts to assault, or a crit A trauma? Seems that you’d need to look at the detail of what actually took place. What people even consider ‘bullying’ seems to be in a constant state of flux.