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News Reverse classism/being afraid of germany or germans

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That‘s sad. When I was a kid I and my siblings were sometimes bullied by some other kids because of classist (or rather reverse classist reasons), they did not even know me just from seeing but they hated my kind... bullied is may be a bit to strong if a word because I did not see them that often.
We pretended we did not notice them, I never talked a word to them, we were brought up to never explain ourselves but I wished I had talked to them and asked them why they did that, why they hated us, if they even knew a thing about our class (apart from the fact they hated us).

What you like most about being working class?
 
I think there is less expectation for families to be formal, you are what you are. You accept what you are given, accept people for who they are. And that is what I like, sense of family amongst friends.

And please don’t say it was sad, it wasn’t sad- it was life. Much privallaged than some stories I’ve read here.
 
I think I'll bow out because the history angle isn't relevant here, but if you're ever interested in it, let me know :)
 
Ahhh, I had a feeling you were well off after reading the first post.

Maybe be happy that you don’t have the same struggles as the poor? You have your basic needs met!

I don’t envy the rich. I’ve known more miserable rich people than miserable poor people.
 
wrong talking about those people instead of talking to them
Here's the thing. I have been VERY rich along the way. Several times. It was apparent to me that some people treated me like I was 'different' from them, based on economic class. I always recognized such and made sure that I spoke to all with dignity and respect and a few giggles along the way. I was considered a very kind person by wealthy wealthies; poorly poor people; and most people in between.

I have also been not so rich. Never as badly off as I am now, but I have had lower moments where I wouldn't have been labeled rich. Not by a long shot. Interestingly enough, it was my 'higher class' friends that wouldn't talk to me anymore.

Now? I am dead broke, recently homeless, desperately poor. I am not eating this month because I spent 'all my money' on car repairs so that I may have a shot at a decent life again.

As a desperately poor person, I have never been treated with such contempt. Utter disregard. Absolutely shameless dismissal. The sneers of disgust have been obvious. Never have I experienced such 'classism', if that's the name for it these days.

The old guard rich make fun of the nouveau riche; the doctor looks down on the municipal worker; the psychiatrists look down on the psychologists. It's an accepted condition in this society. It is also an accepted practice that royalty generally picks potential mates based solely on family lineage and class.

Nobody. Absolutely nobody is treated like the desperately poor. Let's maybe focus first on a problem where people are living and dying on the streets rather than worrying about hurting feelings.

I'm sorry, but if you are going to take an issue and peer at it, then please educate yourself on the real issues. The one's that affect humanity.
 
@Iriseen That sounds pretty cool :)
@Swift... well, actually I do not care which genocidial ideology caused the most death over the course of history, every single in ividual who dies in a genocide is one death to many... so... no I do not want a historical dispute... I just wanted to explain why I do think reverse classism is bad and I chose to do so because the topic was raised in another thread but my explanation would have derailed the thread.
@EveHarrington: when the bullies shouted reverse classist smears at us we were still kids and we were not rich by any means, that was when we still were kids, shortly after socialism had ended and everybody was more or less poor. There was something else they disliked about us, but I think it is difficult to explain this to an American because we were born members of a class that does not even exist in America... and it has nothing to do with money at all... I deleted the rest because I do not want identifying info on myptsd because of anonymity for me and my vet, thanks for understanding.
 
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On another hand, I think it is legit to try and talk about class, and differences, even where understanding and the concept and lived experiences differ? Caring enough to start a thread, with I do not understand X phenomenon, can someone please explain to me? ... is not the same thing as saying Oh, the poor and homeless are awful. Nowhere in the same land.

Though I am frustrated by that reverse classism thing.
Reverse isms are not a thing. Different forms of classism and different bases for it, sure. But that is not reverse classism. That is just classism, for different reasons, working on other roots (historical facts, current dynamics, location and its legislative and administrative and so forth.)
 
@shimmerz: I am really sorry for your fate. I never said it was easy to be poor. I am sure it is not. I have never been homeless and cannot even imagine. I do not want to hurt your feelings but there are people who have been killed for having been born in a class to high. Of course reverse classism has real effects on the life of people. If I had to choose if I wanted to be poor in America or a kulak in Soviet Russia I would choose poor in America any day, because the kulaks were being genocided, the American poor are not. I know that does not make your life easier... and I am really sorry. I never said it was easy to be poor, I just said reverse classism does exist and most unfortunately it has real consequences for some.

In my country fortunately nobody was being genocided, but people who were considered privileged had their lands taken away from them, their children were denied a good education, in some cases their children were even stolen from them and given to communist cadres (when their parents were to uppity), they had to give up their last names which marked them members of their privileged class, when they tried to flee the country they were shot and if they were not shot but caught alive they were tortured... worst part of it some of them were tortured so much that they LOVED the regime after that, because their will had been broken. People who protested that went to jail, 14 year old children who protested that went to work camp (JWH) were they were being re-educated, starved and beaten.
Yes, really. I know that it is not really wellknown, but it is a historical fact and can be looked up.
 
That however, is a genocide, although not by the book last I checked (since it is not on ethnic or...
What I wanted to say is that nobody was been killed (or only those who tried to flee and that was a small number because everybody knew trying to flee was deadly)... most fortunately.... unlike in Russia or China or Cambodia... some people died from malnutrition and tuberculosis after they were driven from their lands but most survived. I think at least 95% to 99% survived.
 
some people died from malnutrition and tuberculosis
(Nobody) has been killed?

(Yeah, I know how you mean, no worries. You are referencing that it was not the same form of massacres. I am just saying that just because some atrocities are done differently, does not make them lesser atrocities, and that particular political distortion around not calling things by their name is rather annoying, even more so with having comparisons, which spout similar denial bullshit as official information. No worries, nothing about what you said, it is the rhetoric around it I have a profound beef with, which, again, is not your fault, as cultures and discourse wrap things differently.)
 
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