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OCD “Pure O” OCD

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So my T broached with me today the possibility of an underlying OCD diagnosis as well as PTSD. I started researching it and holy $h!t, did the straight cognitive obsessive fit me. Anyone else dealing with dual diagnoses? I thought all of the “intrusive thoughts” were different from my flashbacks, and I was right, but I thought I was literally going crazy. Currently looking for a good psychiatrist to make some medication adjustments to stabilize this brain a little bit as well. Trying to find sources about the relationship between PTSD and OCD. Would love any insights and thoughts!
 
So my T broached with me today the possibility of an underlying OCD diagnosis as well as PTSD. I started researching it and holy $h!t, did the straight cognitive obsessive fit me. Anyone else dealing with dual diagnoses? I thought all of the “intrusive thoughts” were different from my flashbacks, and I was right, but I thought I was literally going crazy. Currently looking for a good psychiatrist to make some medication adjustments to stabilize this brain a little bit as well. Trying to find sources about the relationship between PTSD and OCD. Would love any insights and thoughts!


No, I'm staying away from investigating any comorbid conditions.....with the PTSD-honestly, I think a lot of the symptoms are overlapping. I have a perfectionist part I named "Gotta Get an A" .....and I think acknowledging it made a difference in not having to be so perfect and so rule driven......rules help keep things orderly and functioning in a timely manner. Now I'm not obsessive about everything....just some things....and getting a B (not having everything have to be meticulous or perfect) now is acceptable...really still is above average....perfection requires way too much energy, personal disappointment (never really good enough....that shxt started with not being good enough for parents to love me....). I tried so hard to be perfect...it didn't work and they didn't even say they were proud of my hard work and life accomplishments...now they are dead.....got no reason to be perfect. Gotta get an A in everything reeked havoc on my social life......and kept my stress level up all the time.....relax? What was that?

Now, I don't do a lot of head meds....except low dose hydroxyzine as needed and magnesium (for sleep), drink a daquari maybe 3 daquaris 3 times a year , and don't smoke cigs...or smoke or eat interesting mind altering plants. Exercise, art, music, spiritual work, getting out of the house, going places in nature, getting with people, therapy, and creative things as well as learning have helped to stabilize me and give me purpose. I'm still working on that purpose part, but for now....If things got bad enough, I'd check out meds...but I'm really leary of intentionally changing the chemistry with an unknown product-very med sensitive when exercise makes a huge natural difference.
 
Yeah, i just got the ocd diagnosis last year.
Well, I thought it was last year but it was actually years ago and i stopped going to my p-doc basically right after and completely forgot about the whole ocd thing being mentioned at all. Denial much?

Anyways yeh- pure O.
Awesome kind of shit. :shifty:

P-doc recommended a book to read but havent really worked much on it with her for the past year..... cuz, still kind of just figuring it out/ accepting ocd as a thing and still working out if it's even possible to accept the treatment. Cuz it's.... yeah, pure crap.

Not sure what any sources say about the relationship between the two disorders.
I find i have ocd symptoms/triggers that are completely separate and i find a lot of things are entwined- if that makes sense.

I also find they set each other off.

Like, if ptsd is a jerk inside my head, ocd is an asshole- sometimes they get along really well, and sometimes they don't like each other.

And, funest bit- traditional CBT, all those awesome coping skills, dont work for ocd.
At least not without being specially modified.
They actually turn into compulsions and make ocd worse.

Good times. No. :shifty:
 
I have an OCD diagnosis and it was extremely helpful to work on the OCD, and what I learned about OCD actually helped with the PTSD, too. In fact in the Cognitive Processing Therapy program you learn and use some same tools that is used in treating OCD. "A-B-C" worksheets for example. "Thought-records" and learning what to "ignore' --- there are actually somethings about OCD that ignoring (though it feels like ignoring a hornet buzzing at your face)-- as you ignore it, it gets quieter and quieter. Other behaviors that are used to avoid the "fear" and "panic" actually make the fear and panic biger and bigger. So identifying those behaviors and how to "cut off" the fuel of the ocd. Learning the Cognitive Behavior Model for OCD was a G-d send!

I personally think there is great value in stopping the ptsd treatment and spending some time working on the ocd--I had a psych suggest I was ocd a LONG LONG time ago and didn't pursue it, (though treatment is so much more specified and successful today) i really know that had I worked on OCD symptoms and behavior I would be way ahead of the game! It's only part of the healing, but wow is it great to know what is what. What is ocd, what is ptsd, what parts of ocd are "fueled" by ptsd--I am so thankful for this knowledge. ! my life (though it is still hard) is way easier! thus the ptsd treatment becomes easier too

"Getting Over OCD: A 10 Step Workbook" by Abramowitz is a great book to start with, and can be used to structure some of your therapy sessions. I highly recommend. And if you click through to Amazon and buy this book through myptsd website, myptsd will get an affiliate payment.
 
Not sure what any sources say about the relationship between the two disorders.
I find i have ocd symptoms/triggers that are completely separate and i find a lot of things are entwined- if that makes sense.

I also find they set each other off.

Like, if ptsd is a jerk inside my head, ocd is an asshole- sometimes they get along really well, and sometimes they don't like each other.

I totally hear you on the relationship thing. Like, which one of you came first and who is doing the instigating?!?

I have an OCD diagnosis and it was extremely helpful to work on the OCD "Getting Over OCD: A 10 Step Workbook" by Abramowitz is a great book to start with, and can be used to structure some of your therapy sessions. I highly recommend. And if you click through to Amazon and buy this book through myptsd website, myptsd will get an affiliate payment.

I will look into this book. Thanks!
 
I was given OCD label because of intrusive thoughts and emotionality..but when i saw a psych specialist in ptsd she tested me and ruled out i do not.
 
I thought I had OCD and I could easily get the diagnosis if I thought it would benifit me at all but I'm off meds and cPTSD is a good catch all. I agree with the overlapping diagnosis. I'll bet I could get the multiple personality one also. Then I'd have trouble remembering it all I'd have to carry a notebook around which I already do in my phone.

But I'm not on meds and I feel I'm getting good treatment. If I want to go back on meds I can go see a psychiatrist. Then we can relable if appropriate.

I'm feeling better these days though and I don't want to go backwards. I felt in general medications made me depressed which is a warning that is a potential side effect on many psych meds.

I got the c put on cPTSD. It's a broad brush. It's all I can deal with, plus the root, CSA. Those are enough letters. I wish it was PhD?
 
I wish it was PhD?

ha- right?

and cPTSD is a good catch all.

i agree with this.... for me though, there are clear ocd symptoms that dont fall under the ptsd/cptsd dx.
i've been denying ocd for a long time and still do at times....
lots of overlap, of course but its a very distinct difference for a lot of things- only realizing it as i pay more attention to how it works in my head.
 
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