My back hurts when getting out of hyperarousal, is this normal?

BigLittle

Confident
Hi,

Is it normal when getting out of hyperarousal that I am having lowerbackpain and radiating pain in my legs, feet, hands, shoulders etcetera?

Everytime when mentally I am getting better this happens...

Open to feedback.

Thanks.
 

arfie

MyPTSD Pro
in my personal herstory, acute and random body aches are normal for coming out of any of my hyper-states. when i am hyper i clench muscles like a beaten crazy bitch wolf, overdo EVERYTHING, forget my self-care, etc. often it is the pain from the self-abuse/neglect which nags me into awareness of what i am doing to myself.

but that is me and every case is unique.
steadying support while you discover what is normal for your own case.
 

BigLittle

Confident
in my personal herstory, acute and random body aches are normal for coming out of any of my hyper-states. when i am hyper i clench muscles like a beaten crazy bitch wolf, overdo EVERYTHING, forget my self-care, etc. often it is the pain from the self-abuse/neglect which nags me into awareness of what i am doing to myself.

but that is me and every case is unique.
steadying support while you discover what is normal for your own case.
the overdoing and being a human doing indeed of balance and a human being is mosdef a part of it. Thanks for the feedback
 

Friday

Moderator
Doing a lot and not laying down and resting. During the last week I have rested a lot which was good, but then the overal body pain kicks in. Its frustrating...
So that makes sense then, yes?

No pain in adrenaline fueled overdoing, stop doing and the effects flood in as the natural painkillers stop flooding out.

***

Times even more if

- You’re not eating enough calcium & potassium for your muscles to fire/relax (leading to tired/sore muscles and bones from pulling for calcium, and cramping for lack of potassium); &/or or protein for the ripped muscles to repair (that’s how we get stronger, the individual muscle cells rip during exercise, and are rebuilt after, which is why body builders consume so much protein after workouts, and why athletes pound calcium/potassium before/during/after exercise, in addition higher protein levels.

- You have physical symptoms (shakes/shits/pukes), are jumpy & reactive, find yourself standing/holding yourself in defensive positions, or huddling in “cold” …all of which is taxing muscle groups and inbalancing your salts even further.

- You’re fighting something off infection wise (your immune system shuts off during stress & physical activity, and turns back on as the parasympathetic nervous system (rest and digest) takes over from the sympathetic nervous system (fight or flight). If we aren’t actually dealing with an infection, we don’t feel our immune systems, much. But when we are? It’s not the illness that makes us feel miserable, achey, tired, but our lymphatic system (throat, armpits, one side of our body, & groin) swelling to churn out and distribute antibodies & white blood cells, meanwhile our large bones -arms, legs, pelvis- are b-cell (bone cell) factories, with the oh so lovely end result of feeling like we just got hit by a truck / beat up from the inside.
 

BigLittle

Confident
So that makes sense then, yes?

No pain in adrenaline fueled overdoing, stop doing and the effects flood in as the natural painkillers stop flooding out.

***

Times even more if

- You’re not eating enough calcium & potassium for your muscles to fire/relax (leading to tired/sore muscles and bones from pulling for calcium, and cramping for lack of potassium); &/or or protein for the ripped muscles to repair (that’s how we get stronger, the individual muscle cells rip during exercise, and are rebuilt after, which is why body builders consume so much protein after workouts, and why athletes pound calcium/potassium before/during/after exercise, in addition higher protein levels.

- You have physical symptoms (shakes/shits/pukes), are jumpy & reactive, find yourself standing/holding yourself in defensive positions, or huddling in “cold” …all of which is taxing muscle groups and inbalancing your salts even further.

- You’re fighting something off infection wise (your immune system shuts off during stress & physical activity, and turns back on as the parasympathetic nervous system (rest and digest) takes over from the sympathetic nervous system (fight or flight). If we aren’t actually dealing with an infection, we don’t feel our immune systems, much. But when we are? It’s not the illness that makes us feel miserable, achey, tired, but our lymphatic system (throat, armpits, one side of our body, & groin) swelling to churn out and distribute antibodies & white blood cells, meanwhile our large bones -arms, legs, pelvis- are b-cell (bone cell) factories, with the oh so lovely end result of feeling like we just got hit by a truck / beat up from the inside.
Thank you for this. Copy paste on what is going at the moment with me. More selfcare seems the solution. Thx again.
 

Freddyt

MyPTSD Pro
Tension in your back and neck.... Lived with it so long it became normal, so did low back pain.

When it was bad no sleep, back spams, all kinds of not good.

Worked through first trauma and magic - back pain gone, shoulders loose, even the ribs I had my chiro snap back in every couple weeks - no problem.

Learned how to feel when the shoulders and neck start tightening up and pay attention to stress at that point to avoid it getting to pain.
 

Bamboo

Learning
I dont ever feel like i come out of of that state. I sometimes try to force my shoulders to angle down, especially when I'm trying to sleep because it always feels like they are cinched up tight on both sides of my head which I'm guessing accounts for my chronic neck and upper back pain over the years. But that may be just me or how I carry myself ? Massive startle reflex and everything on me is always like.....tightened up if that makes any sense at all.
Honestly, I kind of feel like I've spent the last 40 years in a constant state of "clenched" I don't really know how to just relax my body. It certainly never feels relaxed to me anyway. I know this sounds weird but nothing on my body ever really feels like it's where is supposed to be as it pertains to a relaxed state.
 

Freddyt

MyPTSD Pro
Massive startle reflex and everything on me is always like.....tightened up if that makes any sense at all.
Honestly, I kind of feel like I've spent the last 40 years in a constant state of "clenched" I don't really know how to just relax my body. It certainly never feels relaxed to me anyway. I know this sounds weird but nothing on my body ever really feels like it's where is supposed to be as it pertains to a relaxed state.
Hmmmmmmm.........sounds like EXACTLY what I had. Yes dealing with the trauma behind it is scary, and hard, and has a lot to it but the physical relief is unbelievable. I was thingking the other day its been two years since I went to see the chiropractor I used to NEED to see every two weeks.......
 

StillPen

MyPTSD Pro
So that makes sense then, yes?

No pain in adrenaline fueled overdoing, stop doing and the effects flood in as the natural painkillers stop flooding out.

***

Times even more if

- You’re not eating enough calcium & potassium for your muscles to fire/relax (leading to tired/sore muscles and bones from pulling for calcium, and cramping for lack of potassium); &/or or protein for the ripped muscles to repair (that’s how we get stronger, the individual muscle cells rip during exercise, and are rebuilt after, which is why body builders consume so much protein after workouts, and why athletes pound calcium/potassium before/during/after exercise, in addition higher protein levels.

- You have physical symptoms (shakes/shits/pukes), are jumpy & reactive, find yourself standing/holding yourself in defensive positions, or huddling in “cold” …all of which is taxing muscle groups and inbalancing your salts even further.

- You’re fighting something off infection wise (your immune system shuts off during stress & physical activity, and turns back on as the parasympathetic nervous system (rest and digest) takes over from the sympathetic nervous system (fight or flight). If we aren’t actually dealing with an infection, we don’t feel our immune systems, much. But when we are? It’s not the illness that makes us feel miserable, achey, tired, but our lymphatic system (throat, armpits, one side of our body, & groin) swelling to churn out and distribute antibodies & white blood cells, meanwhile our large bones -arms, legs, pelvis- are b-cell (bone cell) factories, with the oh so lovely end result of feeling like we just got hit by a truck / beat up from the inside.
This is excellent info. Bookmarking for a reminder.
 

Bamboo

Learning
Hmmmmmmm.........sounds like EXACTLY what I had. Yes dealing with the trauma behind it is scary, and hard, and has a lot to it but the physical relief is unbelievable. I was thingking the other day its been two years since I went to see the chiropractor I used to NEED to see every two weeks.......

Yes, chiropractor was the only thing that ever brought relief, though only for a week or so as you said. I rarely go though I should. I have always had difficulty with someone being that much "in my space" so he spends the whole time telling me to relax and I spend the whole time even more clenched up than usual. Almost
felt counterproductive I guess. Never really understood why up until about a year ago.
 
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