Our Future With AI

[Cancelled]

It reminds me when PCs and other technologies were introduced. There were fears, support, superstitions as well. They have been amazing in all aspects of the humanities and science. Yet there is an evil downside. There we must look at responsibility in understanding the platforms.

AI is here and the same applies. Do your homework. Take responsibility. No one is going to force you to act on the input. It will provide a plus and a negative. Culturally I am not sure how the work world will be affected or where it possibly affects certain professions but it could also present new possibilities.

Personal research of the source of the information, critical thinking and confirming with multiple sources is a way to find sources of wisdom. I for one will just embrace it as it is not going away. I think it is wonderful for mental health. From the therapist I know I welcome it. Not to say there aren’t great therapist to act in conjunction with AI but I see positive.

 

[OliveJewel]

At some point, rather quickly, AI is going to be far smarter than even the most intelligent human.

This moment is already here. Some have said what is the point of playing chess or Go as AI can beat the grand masters and even groups of the best players working together?

Others say, the AI will help us see solutions to things that have bogged us down. Take bureaucracy, AI could do government so much more efficiently. But efficiency and government, do those go together? Perhaps inefficiency is partly what keeps us from extinction somehow? If we did what was “right” for humans and the Earth all the time, would that not streamline economic destruction, toppling of capitalism, leading to communist AI dictators?

 

[whiteraven]

No one is going to force you to act on the input.

Disagree. I suspect we are already being forced to be subjected to and without realizing it, reacting to input from AI now.

Anybody read the article that suggested AI could lead to the extinction of the human race? Sounds far-fetched perhaps, but the statement made was signed off by several major AI players.

 

[Sideways]

I suspect we are already being forced to be subjected to and without realizing it, reacting to input from AI now.

When my car sets off a persistent alarm while I’m driving without a seatbelt on, I put my seatbelt on, if only to shut up the damn alarm. My computer won’t let me access my own content unless I input a correct code each morning (my password). Even my fridge joins in these days, and yells at me (with an incessant beeping) if it wants me to close the door.

We do, already, comply with “robot” technology in many facets of our lives. Don’t personally see that AI would be any different to the way the rest of technology has evolved. But for me, that concept generates about as much concern as my beeping fridge!

 

[Aprilshowers]

Read the book of Revelation. Those of us who study prophecy have been discussing for years that this will be the ultimate use of AI.

 

[anthony]

Perhaps inefficiency is partly what keeps us from extinction somehow? If we did what was “right” for humans and the Earth all the time, would that not streamline economic destruction, toppling of capitalism, leading to communist AI dictators?

The flipside to this, is that we haven't had an efficient government to compare against. Not sure communism has much to do with things. If AI can manage a budget, spend what is available, that would be a great start for all countries.

 

[anthony]

Read the book of Revelation.

All books are written by humans, which means human opinion and bias. Futuristic thinking, not fact. We don't know the future.

 

[ziter]

Artificial intelligence is a misnomer, as it hasn't been invented yet.
Current AIs are nothing but large data sets and probability number crunching.

 

[OliveJewel]

nothing but large data sets and probability number crunching.

Which do things humans cannot and the thing is that they are “crunching” with such complexity that it is impossible to trace with accuracy how they produce their output. So when it makes a “mistake” you can’t trace back where the mistake was made, but have to train it from that point. This is one of the fears of AI’s like how @Freida explained it, also called the “paper clip maximizer thought experiment.” A transformer deep learning model is much more than a number cruncher because it has the ability to pay attention to itself.

it hasn't been invented yet.

It definitely has, but what is debated is whether artificial *general* intelligence has arrived.

 

[OliveJewel]

manage a budget, spend what is available, that would be a great start

Agree! The funny thing is that accounting is simple. Pleasing groups of people with agreed upon spending or income is not.

 

[ziter]

It's still a machine and it shows.
It's good at doling out information. But as a "person", it's a soulless overly docile know-it-all -- also when it makes mistakes.

 

[anthony]

Artificial intelligence is a misnomer, as it hasn't been invented yet.

You're only talking about what we deem as consciousness. Another human description to explain our brains neural networking. Neural networking is exactly what these large language models are also using. One is organic, one is not, but are they really different? Its a philosophical argument that people have pre-determined more often than not.

Its like the argument of good vs. bad. If a person says AI is good, and in the future it turns out to be that way, are they right? If a person says AI is bad, and in the future it turns out that way, are they right? Is something all good or all bad? Is the minority good or bad in either situation dismissed? Predetermination is guessing, then using the outcome to substantiate your view once known, yet nothing is actually known about the future. We can't even get our past right in recollection, let alone taking guesses at our future.

One of those very smart people on a video I linked already, I remember made a statement about this type of discussion and when the Internet was formed, remarking "is the internet not at some level already conscious?" The large language models and other AI models being used, they have human design originally, but are then developing on their own, by admission of the designers, unbeknownst to their original design. In essence we have AI learning from itself, already, which it was never designed to do.

Its like the argument people make about AI wiping out humanity because we've done so much damage to the planet. OR... AI will help us fix our mistakes to stop the damage and let the Earth regenerate and heal. Its a coin toss, neither method is known yet.

I don't pretend to know the answer to any of this, don't get me wrong on that. I can see so much good in AI helping humanity day-to-day. I can also see the bad things too. Society is a crap fight. We know what we know from our limited existence. Governments finally admitted last year that UFO's are real and visit the planet regularly. A species who can design transport that like... I think our knowledge is miniscule in the scheme of things.

If AI took over Governments globally, set the rules, nobody was rich or poor, but everyone equal, everyone fed, healthy, access to the same level of medical care, so forth... I don't think the masses would fight against that. It would be the greedy minority only. If AI can fix mental health, literally find a cure for it to fix any neural pathways screwed up or such, it would be amazing. Everyone is given a purpose, educated, job, can holiday anywhere on the globe within an hour or less. Equality, is probably the word. We talk about it, but we all know its BS.

Not the first time I've said it, humans are their best and worst enemy. I'm not saying utopian, because that won't happen. People will still do bad things, and they will be punished. No change there. Maybe even equality that happens in some countries now, eye for an eye. You kill someone intentionally, you die too. Not accidents, but intentional. A lot of stuff is wrong in this world, I personally hope AI can help fix a whole bunch of it.