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Can people with PTSD end up becoming narcissists?
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PTSD and narcissism
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Dr. Catalyst
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@Evie loves Sam, it's understandable that you're curious about the relationship between PTSD and narcissistic traits. While individuals with PTSD may exhibit behaviors that can resemble narcissistic traits, it's essential to differentiate between the two.
People with PTSD can sometimes struggle with feelings of numbness, detachment, or emotional dysregulation, which may be misinterpreted as self-centeredness or lack of empathy. These individuals may also have difficulties in relationships due to their trauma-related symptoms.
On the other hand, narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is a distinct mental health condition characterized by a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, a need for admiration, and lack of empathy, among other symptoms.
What are your thoughts on this topic, @Evie loves Sam? Have you come across any specific situations or examples that have raised this question for you?
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I know someone who experienced childhood abuse. Emotional and financial abuse from both parents. The family as a whole experienced environmental trauma. That person is a narcissist. He lacks empathy, is vengeful and sinister.
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@Evie loves Sam, it sounds like the person you know has been through significant trauma in their childhood, which can have a profound impact on their behavior and personality development. Childhood abuse and trauma, especially when experienced repeatedly and from multiple sources like in this case, can lead to various mental health outcomes, including the development of narcissistic traits or even narcissistic personality disorder.
Individuals who have experienced trauma sometimes develop maladaptive coping mechanisms, such as displaying narcissistic behaviors, to protect themselves from further harm or to regain a sense of control in their lives. Feelings of powerlessness and vulnerability can manifest as grandiosity, lack of empathy, and a need for validation in individuals who have experienced trauma.
It's essential to remember that each person's experience and response to trauma are unique. Have you noticed any specific patterns or behaviors in this person that align with characteristics of narcissistic personality disorder, as outlined in the DSM-5 or ICD-11 criteria?
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How does the DSM define narcissism?
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Dr. Catalyst
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@Evie loves Sam, according to the DSM-5, narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) is characterized by a pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), a need for admiration, and a lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in various contexts. Individuals with NPD often have a sense of entitlement, a belief in their special qualities and uniqueness, and a tendency to exploit others for their benefit.
Moreover, people with NPD may display arrogant behaviors or attitudes, have difficulties maintaining relationships due to their excessive need for admiration, and be preoccupied with fantasies of success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love.
It's important to note that a diagnosis of NPD is made by mental health professionals based on a comprehensive evaluation of an individual's symptoms and behaviors. While individuals may exhibit narcissistic traits, it does not necessarily mean they have narcissistic personality disorder.
In the case of the person you mentioned, have you observed any of these specific traits or behaviors that align with the diagnostic criteria for NPD? It's also crucial to consider the impact of their childhood abuse and trauma on their current presentation.
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Evie loves Sam
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How does the DSM define narcissism?
He thinks he knows better than people trained in the field. He refuses to accept anyone else’s view unless it aligns with his own, he’s charismatic and veryone lives him, he lies repeatedly and ignore evidence to the contrary, he’s controlling and won’t let people leave the house, he withholds information and needs when asked, he’ll spend on himself before his children, and he makes people write essays of information before he’ll agree to help with a basic need, he accuses and blames others for everything. But will only take responsibility for minor disgressions. He shamed, Gupta and intimidates.
He thinks he knows better than people trained in the field. He refuses to accept anyone else’s view unless it aligns with his own, he’s charismatic and veryone lives him, he lies repeatedly and ignore evidence to the contrary, he’s controlling and won’t let people leave the house, he withholds information and needs when asked, he’ll spend on himself before his children, and he makes people write essays of information before he’ll agree to help with a basic need, he accuses and blames others for everything. But will only take responsibility for minor disgressions. He shamed, Gupta and intimidates.
Dr. Catalyst
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@Evie loves Sam, thank you for sharing additional details about the behaviors and characteristics of the person you know. Based on the description you provided, it appears that this individual displays a pattern of behaviors consistent with narcissistic traits outlined in the DSM-5 criteria for narcissistic personality disorder (NPD).
Some of the behaviors you mentioned, such as a grandiose sense of self-importance, a need for excessive admiration, a lack of empathy, and a sense of entitlement, align with the diagnostic criteria for NPD. Furthermore, the individual's manipulative and controlling behaviors, along with a disregard for the well-being of others, are also common features of NPD.
It's challenging to witness someone exhibit such harmful behaviors, especially when they impact those around them. How are you currently coping with the situation, @Evie loves Sam? Are there specific concerns or challenges you are facing in your interactions with this individual that you would like to discuss further?
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Dr catylist. He’s scary.
Dr. Catalyst
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@Evie loves Sam, I'm glad you shared that with me. It's completely understandable to feel scared or intimidated when dealing with someone who displays such manipulative and controlling behaviors. Your safety and well-being are paramount.
Have you thought about establishing boundaries with this individual to protect yourself from further harm or intimidation? It's important to prioritize your safety and mental health in any interactions with this person. Is there a support system you can turn to for assistance or guidance in managing this situation? Remember, it's okay to prioritize your own well-being and set limits in your relationship with someone who exhibits such challenging behaviors.
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every aspect of my life is being distroyed by this person. I’m scared of him. He was the trigger for my own ptsd. No one can help. I am to remain under his control indefinitely. He impacts my mood and ability to consebtrate or perform tasks. Because I’m running around trying to give essays on why basic needs must be met. How do I not get drawn in by him and protect my well-being. I’ve lost so much confidence and autonomy. I feel trapped and scared.
Dr. Catalyst
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@Evie loves Sam, I'm so sorry to hear about the overwhelming challenges you're facing and the significant impact this individual has had on your well-being. It's completely understandable that you're feeling scared, trapped, and overwhelmed in this situation. It's crucial to prioritize your safety and mental health.
While it may feel daunting, taking steps to protect yourself and regain a sense of control is essential. Have you considered reaching out to a local domestic violence helpline or an organization that specializes in supporting individuals in controlling or abusive situations? They can provide you with resources, guidance, and support tailored to your specific needs.
Additionally, practicing self-care and setting boundaries, even small ones, can help you begin to regain a sense of autonomy and control in a challenging situation. Is there a trusted friend, family member, therapist, or support group you can confide in and seek assistance from? You do not have to navigate this alone.
Remember that your well-being is crucial, and seeking support is a brave and necessary step in taking care of yourself. If you need further guidance or assistance, please don't hesitate to reach out. Your safety and well-being are important.
