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Luthien

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This was originally going to be a response to "Is PTSD a Test of Character?" But, in writing it, a lot of things came up. At the end of my response I have some questions. Hopefully some of you will have answers. Thanks.

I personally can't bear to think of PTSD as a test of anything, be it character, or resilience. I can't stand the thought that it is just one more test. People always passed off the horrible things that happened to me as a test that I needed to pass...basically saying that if I was able to make it through it alive, and end up okay, that I am strong and I have passed.
The thing is I see PTSD as failure. I didn't pass the tests because although I am still here, I didn't make it through. Because of PTSD I am still back there. I am always at risk of being right back where I was at 17, tied to a bed for three days, being brutally raped and tortured by three "men".

I recently had a bad breakdown because of an assignment in Writer's Craft. We were supposed to write our essence. We could use any format, and write about any subject, so long as we could back up how it was our own essence. And all I could think of was that I am a liar and fraud because I am masquerading as a normal person, passing myself off as a happy, well rounded young woman, when in fact I am still a messed up teenager who is all alone and being hurt by anyone who gets the chance.

You see, I don't feel that I ever escaped that bed. I might as well have never been let go, because my mind never did escape. My whole life is fear, avoidance, flashbacks, nightmares, panic attacks, hypervigilence, social phobia and all the other things that go along with PTSD.

For me it has been seven years since my original diagnosis of PTSD. I haven't made progress, I haven't moved on, or gotten over what happened to me. I am not okay. I am certainly not building character, I can't even build my life. And I am not terribly resilient because I am not holding on all that well. I am still here, but who knows for how long, and that brings me to my first question.

Does anyone else now find that they are now their own biggest enemy? I mean do you actually put yourself at physical risk because of your inability to cope?

I personally have very little to no control when I am having a flashback or I am under severe stress and I end up doing very crazy things. One example of this would be running out of my mother in law's house in the middle of my birthday party, because I was being over-stimulated by my own feelings of anger and fear due to an arguement I'd had earlier, and because there was just too much noise and excitment. I tried to leave by just saying good-bye to everyone and that I was expected at my mom's house, but I was cornered at the door by my mother in law and her daughter. They wouldn't allow me to leave because I had had a fight with my husband and it "isn't allowed for me to just leave while I'm angry". I panicked completely because I was trapped, and I ended up running out the door hiding under a spruce tree for 3 hours with no coat or boots on, in the freezing rain. It was about -10 degrees that night. At that point I was unable to think clearly enough to have actually gone to my mothers, or to my own house...I was actually hiding from perceived danger , and wasn't able to feel the cold, or the wet, or understand the danger I was in laying under that tree in the cold.

There are many other examples, many where I actually do myself serious harm in an attempt to escape the stimuli..whatever is causing me such intense feelings that I'd rather be dead than going through them, and I just want to know if I am experiencing normal symtoms. I have almost succeeded at committing suicide several times, without actually having any conscious knowledge of what I am doing. I do it accidently.

Does anyone else expperience this type of stuff? Is is part of PTSD, or is there something else wrong with me? Am I crazy on top of the PTSD?

Please respond if you're able to make any sense of any of what I've said.

Thanks,
Luthien
 
As a carer, I wanted to thank you for your beautifully expressed post. (I'm sorry...I know that you're looking for answers, not compliments on your writing. :wink:) My husband (who does have PTSD) has repeatedly expressed many of the thoughts and feelings you mentioned: being a liar and fraud masquerading as a normal person, being a failure, being unable to move on, being unable to build a life. I don't see him in that negative light, but that is often how he sees himself.

I realize that my opinion isn't really important; however, I thought that what you shared in your post spoke greatly of your strength and character. Just getting onto this site and sharing what you have shared takes an incredible amount of strength. The fact that you don't have all the answers only makes you human. (Besides, people who do have all the answers can be so intolerable.) :rolleyes:

I realize that those who struggle with PTSD themselves can share insights that are beyond my experience. Thank you again for writing and sharing your ideas and vulnerabilities...that in itself is a gift to the rest of us who are confronting PTSD in one way or another.

:Hug_emoticon:
Ace
 
i am so sorry for the things you endured, luthian. i know the feelings and reactions you are talking about, i could have written your post exept for the actual abuse. mine was similar, but not the same. you are "normal" for ptsd, you are not a failure. i have to keep reminding myself that i lived through it already and try to stay grounded. hang in there, it will get better.
cathy
 
Luthien ~

I agree with you Luthien, In fact my reply to that very post was that my PTSD is not a test of character but does certianly test my character. It's not a pass or fail type of test, just mearly a test as in pushing something to a point unknown. Our character will not be measured in regards to our traumatic events, nor how we handle it.

I look at it this way, I read so many many painful stories of traumatic events that happened to people on this forum. I read them and tell myself, there is no freakin way in hell I would have been able to handle that. But I wonder if people say the same things about the things I went through. No one is going to put a time table on you "getting over" what happen to you, I am not sure we get over it though.

Someone started the topic of what you are proud of..... I am proud to be starting the process of addressing my issues. I want to say that I am proud that you are here with us, I am sure the other members will agree. So many people here have inspired my strength just by reading their posts. I'm getting to the point of sharing mine but am not ready to fully write it yet.

I do not see myself as crazy, but I do see myself as a coward and scared. But you are not crazy, and even though I do not believe it yet, I am not a coward, it is just part of my personal abuse to myself and beating myself up.

I unfortunately do not have the answers to your questions for your situation, but I hope that the members of this forum and myself help you find those answers.

I feel a level of shame for being a man when I hear of such, I cant think of a bad enough word for the acts rape and torture, inhuman attacks. I wonder if other men feel this too. I may understand the pain you feel but I will never know it.

And what great responses you have already received from other members. :Hug_emoticon:

Much Respect,
Eddy
 
Luthien,

In response to your post, your not crazy first off. yes, I think much of what you are experiencing is normal for PTSD. And I hate to say this as making it seem trivial, but i think common also. But that can be nice because you know that others are right there in the trenches with you.

I personally, do self-destructive harm but I am very blessed to where my hubby can stop me before it starts. For instance, if I get numb and shut down I will not eat to the point where i have lost 10 pounds in two days! I don't know how I can lose that quickly but i did. I also will put myself subconsciously on overload so that I am stressed because my body is used to stress.

My T explained it this way: You are so used to being a certain way, that that's the only way your brain and body know how to be. It hasn't understood yet that your free from your abuse. Even seven years, which some may percieve as a long time, may not be long enough to "reprogram" your body and mind to know that its not being abused anymore. Plus if you have some bad experiences (even albeit "normal" ones) its going to be extra hard on you because of the trauma you have faced.

As for your abuse, I was not tied up everyday physically tho emotionally and psychologically isolated and manipulate and thus raped about everyday for the last three years and sexually molested almost everday for 2 years before that. That violation of your body is huge and its going to take time, especially since you were young when it happened. (altho I don't think the age really plays a factor..it would mess ya up no matter what age).

I hope I didn't belittle what you had been through becasue its massive and I think you need to give yourself some credit that you are alive. Not that its over with and done, not that you should just "move on" but that you are still in the trenches working on what's going on and still healing. :)

So good job on still healing and still recognizing what is triggering you and what you have to heal yet :)

PM if you need anything, again hope I didn't trigger you or offend you in any way.

Kunoichi
 
Thank you all for your compassionate, and insightful comments.
I guess it is true that we're our own worst critics. It is something that I struggle with in many areas of my life, and particularly in my struggle with the trauma I went through and my reactions to it.
The common theme I am seeing in all of the responses is to lighten up on myself, and I really am going to try. This forum is a very positive thing for me. I don't have a therapist, or anyone monitoring my PTSD, and I have always felt that I was just left on my own after the diagnosis. I have since learned about PTSD, and sought out different sources of help on my own, but I am having difficulty finding a good doctor. I am hoping that through this forum, and the exposure technique that I will begin to make progress. For now just knowing that I am not alone and having people who truly do understand and can give advice is wonderful.
 
Kunoichi,
Thank you very much for your response. You did not trigger, or belittle me in anyway. I am very comforted to know that I am not the only one who does these things because of the PTSD, and I appreciate your kind comments.
 
Hey Luthien,

You have some great questions there! It IS normal for those with ptsd to feel like they haven't got anywhere. It is unlikely that you are crazy - someone told me once that if you think you are crazy, you cannot be, as the crazy ones don't know that they are crazy :crazy:

PTSD is what it is. If we were able to control our memories/behaviour/feelings/thoughts, we wouldn't meet the ptsd diagnosis!!! Trouble is, we keep forgetting this logical piece of information and insist on beating ourselves up about it!

piglet.
 
We agree...

Hi Luthien,

My service dog and I agree with what everyone has said. Your symptoms definitely fit PTSD, possibly even complex PTSD, and the fact that you are still here and willing to fight and ask questions show your resilience. The reason PTSD can be fatal is because of the symptoms you describe: The numbing is a survival strategy, but it can also be dangerous. I regularly experience flashback episodes similar to yours where I just need to leave a place or person who has triggered me. I have found it helpful to explain to at least one person what my needs are. Then that person can help buffer me from others' interventions. Even in case of strangers a general statement: "I am having a PTSD reaction/flashback and need to be alone for a while" can help. In case of your relatives you may be able to ask them to sit down with you when you are having an easier day and explain a little bit more what your needs are (however much you are comfortable sharing). During my flashback episodes the first thing to leave is speech or language. So, I even have an emergency flashcard (laminated) as well as a letter from my doctor in my dog's backpack that I can show to people.

Are you getting support from anyone? Your husband? A doctor? A social worker? A therapist? That helps me process the traumas as well as current events.

We are sending you best wishes!
Deaf Global Nomad and my 4-legged friend
 
Hi Deaf Global Nomad,

Thanks for your reply. It helps to know that I am not alone. I do have Complex PTSD. In answer to your question about support. My husband is very supportive, as long as he isn't angry. When he is angry, he tends to trigger me a lot, and he isn't able to stop himself most of the time. In those instances, I have no one who can support me. I do not have a doctor following my PTSD, or any of my other emotional issues. The only person who knows about my PTSD, outside of my husband, is my mother, but she is pretty toxic, and couldn't be a help to me even if she wanted to be...

I wish that I could talk to my husband's family about my PTSD so that I could explain to them what happens to me, so that they don't make it worse, but they wouldn't be able to understand it at all, and my husband prefers that they not know. Perhaps in the future this will need to change, but for now, it isn't a big porblem unless I am having an episode in front of them, which thankfully has only happened twice.

Thanks for your well wishes.
I am sending good thoughts your way as well.
 
You see, I don't feel that I ever escaped that bed. I might as well have never been let go, because my mind never did escape. My whole life is fear, avoidance, flashbacks, nightmares, panic attacks, hypervigilence, social phobia and all the other things that go along with PTSD.

Hi Luthien,
I have been there too, tied to a bed and raped for days, that and many many other things as a child prostitute. :eek:

The battle you fight just to get through a day is tremendously hard. I identify deeply with the recognition that you feel like you are still on that bed. Your fight to stay alive is heroic. :think:

Please keep writing. There people here who will listen and support you. You are worth every bit of the time and attention you need. While this forum can not take the place of Therapist, we can listen.:Hug_emoticon:

Can you local medical Dr. help with medicine to lift off some of the depression and panic you have?
 
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