Research When given birth control sexual predators stop offending

[Rose White]

Chemical Castration International Experience and Chinese Path to Control Pedophilia Crimes

Exploring the effectiveness of chemical castration as a penalty for pedophilia in China. Discover its impact, regulations, and limitations in the American academic circle. Find out more.

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A class of drugs called anti-androgens, used as birth control (DepoProvera), to treat prostrate cancer and PCOS, and given to MTF transgenders, significantly reduces recidivism in male rapists and pedophiles. Sexual offenders don’t necessarily have more testosterone or androgen circulating in their bodies than non-offenders, but reducing their blood serum levels significantly reduces their sexual urges and willingness to commit offenses.

Dubbed chemical castration, it is considered a punishment, but in some regions men can elect to receive it in return for a reduced sentence.

These are the US states that allow it: California, Oregon, Montana, Iowa, Wisconsin, Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana, Florida, Georgia, and Alabama.

These are the countries that allow it: South Africa, Argentina, India, Indonesia, Israel, Pakistan, South Korea, Estonia, Germany, Moldova, North Macedonia, Poland, Portugal, Russia, United Kingdom, Australia, New Zealand.

In the article I linked above Chinese researchers are advocating for China to approve its use.

I wonder if the places that allow it generally have higher rates of sexual crimes and therefore feel compelled to find ways to manage it, even if the method is considered inhumane by critics.

 

[Friday]

used as birth control (DepoProvera), to treat prostrate cancer and PCOS, and given to MTF transgenders, significantly reduces recidivism in male rapists and pedophiles

That is an EXTREMELY NARROW point of inquiry.

Like, walk into your local supermarket, pick one brand of vitamins, level of NARROW. DEPO counts for less than 10% of drugs used for Chemical castration, and is NEVER used singularly.

Simply google ‘chemical castration’ to get the entire list. Search for 2 minutes longer to 60% of the research, used less than half the time.

Depo works, in some cases, sometimes.

Neither a majority, most of the time; nor an inferiority, for a few, occasionally. It’s in the bottoms 10%. Useful for outliers. Occasionally.

Other drugs work in most cases, most of the time.

Is it USEFUL to find what works in outliers? Of course. As nothing works for everyone. Not even FULL castrstion, as they simply move onto objects & knives, instead of body parts.

The study itself? Is useful. Full stop. In its extremely narrow perspective. Looking at why the “standard” is ineffective, and still allows for the rapes & death of millions.As even a singular predator rapes a few hundred in their lifetimes, whilst their acolytes account for thousands, et al.

 

[Rose White]

@Friday birth control are anti-androgens, androgens are precursors to all classes of sex hormones, if I understand correctly. I just give depo as an example. My point was that this medicine can significantly reduce recidivism and urge to commit sexual offenses.

I think calling it chemical castration is stupid because that is emotionally loaded. By pointing out that these medicines are used for all sorts of things I was trying to show that it’s not inhumane, but rather a sane treatment option used by lots of people for a variety of issues. Yes there are many anti-androgens, not just depo.

Thank you for helping clarify.

 

[Friday]

I just give depo as an example.

I went off of the study itself.

I think calling it chemical castration is stupid because that is emotionally loaded.

Is it?

I’m not sure how attempting to chemically remove all desire/urge/ability is better described. Still not 100%. As the complete removal of ALL sex organs (testicles, penis; ovaries & clit) does NOT prevent sex crimes in ALL people. Merely… most.

 

[anthony]

I wonder if the places that allow it generally have higher rates of sexual crimes and therefore feel compelled to find ways to manage it

I doubt that very much. Afghanistan, its part of near becoming a man, to rape boys. There are tribes in countries where the boys are raped daily until they become a man, where they then are married to a woman, to then take another tribal boy to rape until they become a man. Rinse and repeat. Some cultures it is not rape, it is cultural and part of their belief system. More likely, to the countries listed, they see it as tragic and destructive, so they want to stop it within their cultures.

Cultural beliefs. Not right nor wrong, they just are. What you find normal and what another finds normal, very different.

 

[Rose White]

attempting to chemically remove all desire/urge/ability

From my understanding it is not removing all, rather reducing serum androgens, and as you said it doesn’t work for everyone but does for many. Someone told me that if they were my dad and they had the urge to f*ck with me as a baby (like my dad did) they would have just killed themselves. Pedophiles do kill themselves. And given that pedophilia seems to have a genetic origin for some of them makes it an especially cruel joke of nature. It seems that for some pedophiles, a medicine that reduces the urge would be a life saver, for both them and for the victimized children who also have high suicide rates. It’s the same drugs given to MTF transgenders and nobody calls that chemical castration, because castration is what you do to livestock. Calling it that equates the pedophiles with animals—which is insulting to animals.

 

[Rose White]

to the countries listed, they see it as tragic and destructive, so they want to stop it within their cultures.

Agree and yes there are countries with rape embedded in their culture—I don’t feel as neutral about that, but that’s not the point. My point was that there might be countries in which pedophilia is much less of an issue, which I don’t know if there’s been any studies on that. But it seems people say, “Well it’s just hidden.” And it very well might be.

But we know that eating disorders, for example, did not occur hardly at all in Asian countries prior to the 1990s, and when they did they presented very differently from “Western” presentation. The Internet changed that and eating disorders in Asian countries skyrocketed in the 2000’s.

In my mind I’m thinking that perhaps there are some nations that were less prone to pedophilia? But in todays world cultures are so mixed up, due to globalization, that it would likely be challenging to find a country not influenced by Westernization (for better or worse.)

 

[anthony]

there are countries with rape embedded in their culture

Is it rape though, as you use? You can't dismiss cultural beliefs because they don't align with your own. What you call rape, some cultures call normal. Some are religious beliefs.

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[Rose White]

I think it depends on the person that experiences it. In so-called Western countries there are plenty of people who are raped without realizing they have been raped, or who accept rape all their lives and think that’s just how sex is.

Within all the tribes listed on your link I can guarantee there are at least some members pushing back against traditional values that revolve around sexual violence.

 

[anthony]

Within all the tribes listed on your link I can guarantee there are at least some members pushing back against traditional values that revolve around sexual violence.

You're most likely correct. IMO, I think sex is personal, kids are just off limits for everything sex between them and an adult. Kids with kids, kids experiment, and as long as its just that, not an older teen praying on a younger child. But again, even experimentation, kids don't like what they did after the fact and can f*ck them up for life. Plenty of that in the world. Not sure if a solution really exists. Plenty of adults regret sex after the fact, their decisions after the fact. The effects are profound on people uniquely, and those are unknown at the time.

Kids are immature. Adults are immature. Unsure of any real world solution. All I know is... the impact after something can screw with you for the unknown time. Decisions decisions. Being human is complicated as f*ck.

 

[Paul-]

In response to.... When Given Birth Control Sexual Predators Stop Offending....

It's a subject that strikes fear into the heart of so many people and something that's touched so many lives over the years.
Unfortunately, child sexual activity seems to be growing forever more and affecting so many people, their loved ones and their families.
Of course, it's understandable for many people to have their opinions on this particular subject. Although many us are not qualified to understand the technicalities of the medication, there are so many people who will have very strong opinions.
There are those survivors who have worked through their issues with counselling/therapy and found a way to forgive (even though it can take a life-time to do so).
Yet there are so many poor souls out there who will never, ever get over their sexual assault/abuse traumas and would advocate any kind of punishment to people who undertake such an activity.
If chemical castration can help reduce the chances of people repeating their sexual activity with children, then it should be considered as part of a treatment programme.
There are many who'll genuinely (for very obvious and valid reasons) feel that being given the chance of this treatment as an alternative/reduction to prison will not be sufficient punishment.
People feel the punishments should be so much stronger and even the most 'barbaric' wouldn't satisfy their hatred towards these people.
However. When it comes to punishment, there may need to be some serious soul searching.
There are many out there in the world who are absolutely furious at the thought of people committing these acts of sexual abuse, especially towards children.
We use the term 'sexual predators' and other familiar names to give a certain dramatic, horrific feel and ring-fence these people as separate from ourselves and gain a certain comfort in the knowledge they are not like us.
Yet there is a cruel reality that we all must face head-on and accept.
This interest in child sexual behaviour is growing at an alarming rate and it's involving many families, their children and being brought into their homes.
Online pornography has it's many freedoms without restriction to content, age limits and legal boundaries.
Careful press manipulation causes a mixture of feelings when reporting any form of sexual abuse or misconduct - especially children.
There are those who are merely dismissive of the news because they feel so depressed by it all.
Then there are the fools who will joke about it and make cruel comments.
There are those who will become fired with rage and express their anger towards the legal systems, governments and even take to the streets to express their outrage.
The media pushes those buttons inside peoples hearts and souls.
Yet each of these (and any other) responses have one thing in common. They are a method used by people to hide what their deep, true and painful feelings really are.
Deep down underneath all the noise of public anger, the people are struggling to acknowledge the full truth of what is happening to their own lives, their partners and children.
The media fuels the emotions... The people respond, convert their deep, inner emotions into a form of protective denial... The evil continues to grow.
The good people lock out the evil... Yet it is growing in their own homes.
It would be insulting to state otherwise... There are those people who are sexual predators and their evil behaviour has destroyed many lives.
However. There are many who are now becoming ensnared by the influence of online pornography and as the addiction grows, so can the yearning for more adventurous content.
Adults and children alike are at risk of becoming addicted to online pornography and the content can involve children.
Many people developing an interest in child pornography are partners, husbands and possibly even young children (who understand so much about technology and communication).
It's hard and cruel. In this financially oriented world, all of this sexual, predatory behaviour is protected by circling corporate vultures.
The crisis will grow....
There's of course the ever growing risks of adults communicating with children online with a view to explore sexual relations with these young innocents.
There is a growing crisis happening right now and it's going to get much worse.
If anything can be done to help control this ongoing, growing crisis and reduce the possibility of children being exploited sexually, such as this treatment programme...
Then it's worth considering and being implemented in our communities.


Paul.....

 

[Rose White]

@Paul- I agree