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I would say it's both along with anything insightful anyone has to add. My assumption is that their fame and success could not improve their emotional issues due to something like impostor syndrome. So I, for one, and talking about both.

I don't think it's appropriate for me to spell out all of the gory details of my life here. If I was not in pain, what would be different? I guess I would be a happy pathetic loser instead of a sad pathetic loser. Sorry, I'm not sure I understand what kind of response you're seeking here.

Didn't say it was a bad thing. This is fine. But if I feel like if something does not work for me, I should be able to say so without being shouted down. I don't mind your response. I don't know why you get the sense that I do. You can't address a problem until you acknowledge that it exists...

"Do the work" sounds a little one-size-fits-all. I guess we all project our own experiences a bit. "If this website made me feel better about my problems, surely it can cure what ails you and you and you too." The truth is that none of us knows the details of what anyone else has to deal...

This really is not what I am saying. I don't know if they killed themselves because they could not find "internal happiness." (How would you define that anyway?) I believe most people who kill themselves do so because of something external, past or present, that they can't change -- like abuse...

I'd also take big shots' humble brags with a grain of salt. :roflmao:

LOL. Success isn't generally expected to cure cancer. Success is generally expected to raise one's confidence. I'm really just trying to understand why some people can't believe their own success. I think I might be one of them, and I'd like to understand the problem better so I can address it...

I'm assuming Bennington's issues resulted from his childhood abuse. He said that the experience "destroyed his confidence." If all of that fame, wealth, success, etc. (on top of a wife and kids) could not build his confidence back up -- wow. What can you say about that?

LOL. I meant that getting high can temporarily improve one's mood, effectively staving off suicide. But the substance abuse itself (not the saying alive) is detrimental to the user in the long run. Also, I don't think I am conflating success with fame. No, I don't think all fame equates to...

This stat stinks of correlation/causation problems. Do alcoholics kill themselves because they're alcoholics? Or because of what is driving them to alcoholism in the first place, i.e, unhappiness. Whether it's been diagnosed and labeled doesn't seem that relevant.

Yeah, true. But I don't think substance abuse causes suicide -- if anything, it prevents it to the long-term detriment of the user, obviously. Something else caused their suicides, perhaps the same thing that caused their drug abuse. I heard about the abuse too. It's just amazing to me that...

Kind of vague. And it's worth noting they both had wives and children. And friendship (the two were actually friends for some time). Do those count?

A couple of famous musicians (Chris Cornell and Chester Bennington) killed themselves in the last couple months. Kind of makes me think, why weren't they happy? What was it that success, millions of fans, tons of money, girls throwing themselves at them and all the rest could not knock out of...

Can you say a little more about these, please?

I read some Levine. Are you referring to the somatic theory of trauma release?

Well, supposedly there is neuroscience behind this. I'm just trying to figure out what the researchers found to be the stress level at which brain retraining and relearning can occur. If not expressed as a number then perhaps with some words that we can all understand. Eight, six, ten, four --...

Whoa, that sounds high. My idea of 60 is too distressed to think clearly; 80 is basically catatonic. My best in vivo assignment so far has been somewhere in the upper 30s, I'd say. A bit uncomfortable, but not quite triggered. "Triggered" would begin at about 50 and then worsen to the point of...

Well, I think we can agree that even subjectively, 100 is more stressful than 50 is more stressful than 0. I was just looking for a ballpark level of stress.

Is anyone familiar with the SUDS (Subjective Units of Distress) scoring system in trauma treatment? I heard that in order for re-learning to occur, your SUDS level has to be somewhat raised. But if it's raised too high and you're just plain triggered, you will not learn that the situation at...

I got back from my fourth session of a twelve-week prolonged exposure therapy program today. We went into greater detail about the particular memory that loops in my head as well as some peripheral traumas. I got home and took a nap. Aside from the generally crappy mood I woke up in, I also...

Most therapists are stupid, incompetent, unhelpful, etc, especially the ones the public health system will give you for free. You may not appreciate this if you have always been able to vet through top psychologists before selecting one. According to the protocols of this program, it is...

I mean we've talked about the traumas, and we singled out a particular memory to work on. But it's only been two sessions. I think this would be covered in the imaginal exposure. I guess I'm not sure what you mean. And I wonder if this is because the "trigger" is something that is just plain...

Can you describe in more detail what you mean by "face" them? In what way does this differ from experiencing them? I just don't see how, for one example, personal contact with someone who looks and acts like "you-know-who" in real life could ever fail to kickoff the several hours of flashbacks...

I just completed my second session in a 12 week prolonged exposure trauma therapy program. We were discussing the in-session, imaginal exposure and the real life (in vivo) exposure "homework" I would be doing. So I said: Going to the supermarket and waiting in line is somewhat triggering...

Is this due to some new law enacted? Why the sudden change? Why was this not done in the past?