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It's unfortunate this conversation may have caused @PURUSHA to deactivate. I wanted to hear more from her about the disorder. We're all anonymous here, and all voices, even, or perhaps especially, those infrequently heard, contribute to greater comprehension of a subject. Perhaps the site could...

LOLZ

/Sarc/ But you knew that.

I know it. And a lot of power-hungry assholes crave status. It makes perfect sense. The conductors of that study have no idea what those people are like in their private lives. I've read several books on psychopathy, and I'm related to one. I need to brush up on narcissism.

@Chris-duck, how do you know every single human goes to the bathroom? Did you meet every single one of them and follow them around for a day? What if they are taking a medication in trial that dissolves food and evaporates liquid in their digestive tract? It's entirely possible that this drug is...

I'm slandering no one. I am simply pointing out that the worst paths and narcs have people in their lives who have no clue who they really are. What you see is what you see. Saying you know someone diagnosed who isn't evil is like saying you know someone who doesn't go to the bathroom, because...

But, @Ronin, experts who actually study psychopaths would be rolling on the floor laughing at what you've done with the criteria. It's just not how they mean it.

Apparently a lot of people here had the idea put into their heads that mentally ill people are in the same boat. They're not. You shouldn't feel any need to feel solidarity with narcs and paths. We're ill -- something happened to us that made us ill. These people just are who they are. "Evil"...

@Ronin, you're spinning the facts like a top. They don't mean them in that positive light you shed on them. Let's try this: Willing to HARM others for ones own gain. How do you spin that?

To be honest, I don't know for sure that it isn't dangerous in all cases. I would say anyone who meets the diagnosis is dangerous by definition. How about we turn the tables here and get you to define "dangerous?" How can you say for sure that some people diagnosed with psychopathy "aren't...

Also, seriously? Manipulating and degrading don't equal abusing? Way to split an effing hair.

That might well be the case -- at least as far as his innate neuro-physiology, lack of empathy. I don't know enough at this time to say early intervention, education, etc. can't at least help manage these disorders.

Well, what the hell? If you someone has dangerous PTSD, people can't be blamed for wanting to stay away from them.

As his preschool teacher, I don't really think it's my responsibility to do anything with him. Perhaps, I would refer him to a pediatric psychologist so they could see if there is any early intervention treatment possible.

I would feel like this person is uneducated about PTSD. It's not dangerous in most cases. Psychopathy is dangerous in most cases.

It's not "this or that disorder." It's psychopathy and narcissism. In some ways it's helpful to not classify them so much as disorders but ways of being. They're not treatable like depression or PTSD, which aren't usually dangerous even untreated. Your hypothetical harmless psychopath can cry...

Are you asking me if I think a person can be misdiagnosed? Yes, I do. Are you asking me if I think it's possible that someone correctly diagnosed a narc or path could be harmless? Frankly, I don't. I guess it's possible that a person could keep company with them for some time without being...

I won't know. I'll make educated guesses based on past experiences, books I've read and other quality information I can get on them. Will I potentially cut off some people who aren't narcs or paths? And maybe let in some who are not? Probably, yes. But I think I'll do better than if I just...

This kind of sounds like my mother. If someone manipulates and degrades, I would consider that abusive. Perhaps some people here have a limited definition of abuse, is what the problem is. I consider my mother abusive. She never struck me. She manipulated circumstances to degrade us, and make...

LOL Okay, knock yourselves out with the narcs and paths. (And lovely thresholders) Maybe you'll even be the lucky one to take their abuse virginity when they start acting like one. Me? I'll keep my distance.

The psychopaths I've known? I don't really consider them human -- and some of them are related to me. If I knew someone was a psychopath, yes, I would get them out of my life even if they were related to me. Trust me, they don't care.

I don't know if I have the authority to define the disorder. I admit I need to do more research. My mother went wholly out of her way to be at the center of a group of victim-losers. When she was cut off, her response resembled cold turkey drug withdrawal. When I exhibited any competency in...

No. He was schizo-affective. That was the culprit for his abnormal, abusive behavior. It's far more accurate than "sick." You need to try to put your emotions aside. Your mind is really your brain. You don't have a mind that thinks independently of your brain. Brains are physical organs. No two...

I'm sorry, but you didn't know this person long enough to make any final statements about him. You can know a narc or path all your life without figuring out what they are. If you met my mother you would find her a quiet, humble, somewhat mousy woman "without an abusive bone in her body."...

Um, this. We're trying to define that sickness. It's not normal, so what is it? "Sick" isn't a satisfactory definition.