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    Sufferer I Have Suffered Far Too Long!

    I was diagnosed with PTSD in 1981 (just after it became a diagnosis I think I recall) and can relate to your story a lot, with empathy for how much more lack of support and wrangling with the psychiatric/medical world you would have had to go through. I am not up to talking much today, but I...
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    Why Am I Triggered By Cbt?

    I hadn't thought of this aspect of it but that's entirely true. I use a pseudonym everywhere online, rarely (if ever) post pictures, can't tell the names of or prosecute my abusers, and am in very real danger should they decide I'm a threat. Apart from being people in medical fields, they...
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    Why Am I Triggered By Cbt?

    I tend to agree on looking into this more and discussing it. I do find attending therapy triggering and difficult, even after so many years confronting it. Any kind of interrogative querying of thought processes and behaviors, or suggestion I might be at fault/to blame for my distress can make...
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    Why Can't Some Of Us Talk On The Forum?

    Thank for this - I do spend a fair bit of time in quite heavily moderated communities, where derails can be a real issue, so it's good to know I don't need to be quite as vigilant.
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    Why Can't Some Of Us Talk On The Forum?

    I can understand your stance and I agree that PTSD and other disorders include an element of cognitive bias. I think, as CBT was initially brought up in a trauma context (and this forum is, itself, a huge trauma context) I assumed you were speaking about it as it applies to PTSD, and therefore...
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    Why Can't Some Of Us Talk On The Forum?

    I'm viewing this through an intersectional lens and a systemic one. It' s a lens that acknowledges differing intersections of oppression/privilege. One that firmly asserts that words, language, and behavior in communities matter when it comes to providing space for silenced/marginalized...
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    Why Can't Some Of Us Talk On The Forum?

    I apologise for any way I have contributed to derailing this thread into discussions of modalities. My intention was not do so, my intention was to address the OP and to support them and others being told that there was one 'way and one way alone to treat their symptoms. I did not expect this...
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    Why Can't Some Of Us Talk On The Forum?

    @anthony I think you need to take a step back from the CBT discussion. It's clearly a big issue for you, and that's understandable. However: Utilising evidence based approaches and arguing a scientific and rational stance requires you also do the same. Rational, evidence based approaches...
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    Why Am I Triggered By Cbt?

    Just wanted to drop in and let all who've contributed know I've read and appreciated your comments, just having a bad day healthwise. I'll be back with more discussion as soon as I'm up to it. Thanks so much.
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    Why Am I Triggered By Cbt?

    I can see how that might be the case. I've considered it in the past - but I have done soooo much talk therapy and the most-quoted comment when I'm talking to people about it is 'how do you talk about this so calmly?'. I feel okay about talking about it, especially in a general sense. But i...
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    Why Am I Triggered By Cbt?

    Yup, that's exactly how it feels! I've been with my T for 6 years and she's figured out how to apply therapeutic principals of all kinds without triggering me by directly using techniques that challenge 'core' me. Or at least my 'carefully built around trauma to survive' me. I'm slowly...
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    Why Am I Triggered By Cbt?

    Urgh I'm sorry - I forgot to include my reaction to 'CBT' - nausea, panic attacks, flashbacks, a feeling that I'm 'unravelling' or 'coming apart' and severe feelings of instability.
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    Why Am I Triggered By Cbt?

    Just a note that this is not all my reasoning and memory behind the conditioning/brainwashing opinion, just a brief overview of what i think might be relevant.
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    Why Am I Triggered By Cbt?

    A query for practitioners or those who know trauma-focused CBT very well: I am intensely triggered by CBT -- I am not entirely sure if it was trauma-focused CBT but it's been multiple times over multiple therapists spanning 1990's-2010 I have sorted out - or inferred - a few things from the...
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    Why Can't Some Of Us Talk On The Forum?

    Yes! thank you. That analogy is perfect! :) When someone uses CBT techniques with me -- and I do not have the specifics of what kind, as it has been a while since I had to confront it -- I have extreme visceral reactions. Nausea, panic attack, disorientation, a feeling that I am breaking up...
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    Why Can't Some Of Us Talk On The Forum?

    I understand the distinction. I did not claim that 'Cognitive Behavioral Therapy' was used in my abuse. I said they 'utilised similar techniques' and that's what I meant. Cognitive behavioral therapy triggers me extremely because it is very similar to methods used in my abuse. And the...
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    Why Can't Some Of Us Talk On The Forum?

    @The Albatross I agree with much you say here and I deploy much of this in my own therapy and approaches to live as a survivor - I don't think what you've quoted from me and what you've said are mutually exclusive positions.
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    What Is A " Core "?

    On not having a strong sense of 'self' or 'core self' I think it can have to do with the kind of abuse you survive. Judith Herman's definition of CPTSD explains this well, I think, when it talks about survivors of childhood sexual abuse, long term torture, abuse, confinement as lacking a...
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    Why Can't Some Of Us Talk On The Forum?

    I was 2 - 9 years old. I did not collude in my conditioning and brainwashing and torture :(
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    Why Can't Some Of Us Talk On The Forum?

    @anthony this comment is inappropriate in the extreme. I understand your queries and concerns, but this last bit is just really inappropriate on a forum for people with trauma. Especially people with CSA. Being believed is central to our healing process. I encourage you to step back and think...
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    Why Can't Some Of Us Talk On The Forum?

    @anthony - I'm sincerely not trying to be rude, I am just unsure how to say 'that comment made me really uncomfortable and I feel it's dangerously reductionist' safely :(
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    Why Can't Some Of Us Talk On The Forum?

    @anthony -- After reading people explain really good reasons why CBT isn't for everyone, you are stating that those who reject CBT need CBT? One of the reasons I reject it, and that it does not resonate with me, is that I was abused by an organised pedophile ring who utilised similar...
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    Why Can't Some Of Us Talk On The Forum?

    For everyone here - I think thi smight help some understand where those of us asking for empathy and appearing to wallow are asking for. it's short and really awesome To the thread: Phrases like 'she's bringing it on herself' or anything that basically says 'you actions/attitude = you...
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    Why Can't Some Of Us Talk On The Forum?

    Thanks for writing this - I feel the same. I tend to give, rather than ask for, support here, because I feel as someone who is disabled by her CPTSD, as someone with several co-morbid chronic illnesses, as a queer, kinked, pansexual, feminist person who is very aware of the way society...
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    Dom Violence I Wish Everyone Would Stop Saying How Easy It Is To Leave Your Abuser

    People -- people who haven't lived through it and come out the other side -- don't get how hard it is to leave. I can't handle news reports and internet conversations re: abuse. 'she should just leave' and 'why didn't she/doesn't she leave'. It's not that easy -- it's not easy, full stop. It's...
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