Cptsd Vs Ptsd

[Sideways]

different treatments.

I'm not convinced they've really nailed the best way to treat cptsd yet.

But if nothing else, identifying the reasons why common ptsd-treatments (like exposure or emdr) aren't always enough for cptsd; that's a helpful place to start.

 

[Sandstone]

The ICD 11 CPTSD definition is at Link Removed

A paper supporting it is at Evidence for proposed ICD-11 PTSD and complex PTSD: a latent profile analysis

also Evidence of symptom profiles consistent with posttraumatic stress disorder and complex posttraumatic stress disorder in different trauma samples | Elklit | European Journal of Psychotraumatology

 

[Gs172003]

Funny I just saw this cause I just read this: Link Removed

 

[Chem Lady]

I have found the information on this thread very helpful. It's not changing my therapy because I'm not in therapy. However, just having a PTSD diagnosis, I've been frustratingly told that I'm not experiencing PTSD symptoms, which I know isn't true. Adding those extra things to the checklist by having cPTSD proves that I'm ALWAYS struggling with PTSD symptoms, and I'm hoping it will help as I talk to my disabilities person about how difficult it is to work full-time.
Thanks for all the info on this thread!

 

[Angela Corgan]

In the UK it isn't recognised but I believe as someone pointed out the distinguishing feature is longevity. In my case it has been going on since I was two and I am now 58... In a way I like not having any formal diagnosis it makes me just concentrate on trying to get through the enormity of the experiences. I did however try the diagnosis on my NHS Therapist and she didn't argue or dismiss it merely nodded!

 

[Angela Corgan]

I woukd also add

and the damage, consequences of these experiences.

 

[Friday]

The ICD 11 CPTSD definition is at [URL='ICD-11 Beta Draft - Mortality and Morbidity Statistics...

Thanks! :D

 

[Abstract]

I can't read it now as my brain is absent (usual state these days) and although I have read the preempts to the new ICD in details and thoroughly I can barely recollect a thing at the moment. How sad. All I can say is that when I did fairly recently I thought it had merit. Not perfect at all but on the right track potentially.

I was interested in the research they did that excluded other types of reactions and BPD. And also that they proved first a baseline of experiences (type wise) and then clearly defined that it was NOT about severity of trauma alone and was about a particular type of reaction. The biggest difficulty they had when testing the criteria on professionals was to stop them leading with severity of experiences and to look at the reactions.

I can't say I do fall into this as my experiences fall on the mild end of the experiences mentioned. Regardless I relate to what is proposed (how shameful in context).

All I really care about is for there to be a better treatment protocol in place for those who aren't very well served with the existing one. Far too many who may fall into this category don't get treatment that helps for a very long time or ever. That's what diagnoses are there for. Other than that they are merely constructs that fit present best possible knowledge.

DSM will also always have a slightly different focus as its insurance led to an extent. That isn't the case in Europe.

 

[theshadowoftheliving]

Good grief! Is it normal to have all of those that are listed?

I second @BlueOrange - I have all of those symptoms.

But if nothing else, identifying the reasons why common ptsd-treatments (like exposure or EMDR) aren't always enough for cptsd; that's a helpful place to start.

I also agree here. I went through a round of CPT treatment and it made me so, so, so much worse. I can imagine how it would help for really straightforward PTSD, but mine is so long-term and chronic and intertwined with everything I do and am that I couldn't separate it out at all the way that the CPT wanted me to. It was a disaster, and if I had been recognized as having CPTSD instead of PTSD, that might have helped.

 

[Gs172003]

I can't read it now as my brain is absent (usual state these days) and although I have read the preempt...

I wondered if the US and other countries were different

 

[Gs172003]

DSM will also always have a slightly different focus as its insurance led to an extent. That isn't the case in Europe.

I wish the US wasn't so greedy in this way. The VA is worse. Anything to make things cost more/ be harder on people

 

[Gs172003]

While I fit the C-PTSD model, I think, subjectively, I'm not sure yet if there is a significant enough divi...

I read it. Nowhere did it say onset in childhood. Why do people keep saying that?