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anthony
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They are some well thought out, and presented ideas carp. I don't have any issues with them, but I will outline what the board is capable of doing as software....
The board has three main types of "systems" that function users, being:
User ranks works off post counts, so one can just make lots of useless posts to gain higher worth to the users eye, though not in actual fact contributed anything worthwhile, or relevant, to the community overall. Thread reputation is to open to interpretation, as within a thread, you can have 10 posts, where one person will give the entire thread a rating of 5, another a rating of 1, etc etc etc. This labels threads incorrectly, as a thread is more or less important to each person individually, and not something that should be judged collectively. So this leaves user reputation levels...
Reputation is given or taken from a user, and not a threads worth individually. A post whether good or bad, jumps out at a person individually, thus can never be examined or rated collectively this way.
If someone grudged another, then I could see it when I look within the reputation statistics, and I see everything in regard to reputation giving and taking, so I can judge whether someone is abusing the system or not. If a person PM'd me that someone was constantly giving them negative reputation, even for posts that are earning lots of positive reputation, then chances are the person is using grudging to influence their reputation passing, thus I can change it, edit, delete, and punish a user if they have outright abused the system. I like honesty, and if users aren't prepared to be honest on this board with themselves and all other users, then I would not really want them here, as this board and the relationship of the community is very trust and honesty orientated for the well being of us all.
Let me just say, that a user cannot influence the software to get higher reputation points for themselves, without being quite proficient within posting, as the software whilst adding at certain points, will also deduct in other aspects if a user goes wrong. I do not mention all these aspects intentionally or all settings I have enabled intentionally, to help reduce any thought of abuse.
If nobody abuses the system, then it should work very well to show who is providing quality of information, or simply honesty within themselves, which ever people want to reward, the system remains constantly changing and unique, never relying upon a set of statisical aspects to further oneself.
As administrator and moderators, those positions automatically obtain one extra point for the role they perform, though everything else is inline with any other user, ie. post counts, reputation factors, length of membership, and many other factors. You can go away and not post, and you can still earn reputation on users reading your previous posts, and if they are useful to them, so nobody will ever miss out.
Obviously the system has common flaws, such as an older user will generally have more reputation, though not necessarily, as it depends on so many factors whether you move up or down. It will be nothing at all, an and no surprise to me, seeing other members have a higher reputation than myself, as being administrator certainly doesn't allow me any favours to receiving positive and negative reputation.
What people must remember, is that when users cast reputation on a post, it is their opinion of how they perceive that post, and not a reflection on you as a person. A person may give you negative rep on one post, a few days later give you positive on another for a well written or topical thought, or just being honest about things.
Like everything, it is not perfect, though with a little intervention and monitoring, we'll see how it goes, and if it works it works, if not then so be it. If users don't approve of it, then they can turn their own reputation system off within their user CP, so their reputation is just not shown, whether positive or negative. So each user still has a choice on whether they want their reputation to be seen or not, though reputation may still be given and taken whether a user turns it on or off uniquely, it is just not shown to the public.
The system itself though does not have the capability to assign points to certain factors, ie. allow a user to assign points to how they perceive a post, it is merely their reputation power that is assigned. What you give, also affects your own reputation through the system, that much I will say. So a user has to think about the post, and if they think it deserves opinion, then give it, otherwise, leave it alone until a post warrants the occassion.
The board has three main types of "systems" that function users, being:
- Thread rating,
- User ranks, and
- Reputation.
User ranks works off post counts, so one can just make lots of useless posts to gain higher worth to the users eye, though not in actual fact contributed anything worthwhile, or relevant, to the community overall. Thread reputation is to open to interpretation, as within a thread, you can have 10 posts, where one person will give the entire thread a rating of 5, another a rating of 1, etc etc etc. This labels threads incorrectly, as a thread is more or less important to each person individually, and not something that should be judged collectively. So this leaves user reputation levels...
Reputation is given or taken from a user, and not a threads worth individually. A post whether good or bad, jumps out at a person individually, thus can never be examined or rated collectively this way.
If someone grudged another, then I could see it when I look within the reputation statistics, and I see everything in regard to reputation giving and taking, so I can judge whether someone is abusing the system or not. If a person PM'd me that someone was constantly giving them negative reputation, even for posts that are earning lots of positive reputation, then chances are the person is using grudging to influence their reputation passing, thus I can change it, edit, delete, and punish a user if they have outright abused the system. I like honesty, and if users aren't prepared to be honest on this board with themselves and all other users, then I would not really want them here, as this board and the relationship of the community is very trust and honesty orientated for the well being of us all.
Let me just say, that a user cannot influence the software to get higher reputation points for themselves, without being quite proficient within posting, as the software whilst adding at certain points, will also deduct in other aspects if a user goes wrong. I do not mention all these aspects intentionally or all settings I have enabled intentionally, to help reduce any thought of abuse.
If nobody abuses the system, then it should work very well to show who is providing quality of information, or simply honesty within themselves, which ever people want to reward, the system remains constantly changing and unique, never relying upon a set of statisical aspects to further oneself.
As administrator and moderators, those positions automatically obtain one extra point for the role they perform, though everything else is inline with any other user, ie. post counts, reputation factors, length of membership, and many other factors. You can go away and not post, and you can still earn reputation on users reading your previous posts, and if they are useful to them, so nobody will ever miss out.
Obviously the system has common flaws, such as an older user will generally have more reputation, though not necessarily, as it depends on so many factors whether you move up or down. It will be nothing at all, an and no surprise to me, seeing other members have a higher reputation than myself, as being administrator certainly doesn't allow me any favours to receiving positive and negative reputation.
What people must remember, is that when users cast reputation on a post, it is their opinion of how they perceive that post, and not a reflection on you as a person. A person may give you negative rep on one post, a few days later give you positive on another for a well written or topical thought, or just being honest about things.
Like everything, it is not perfect, though with a little intervention and monitoring, we'll see how it goes, and if it works it works, if not then so be it. If users don't approve of it, then they can turn their own reputation system off within their user CP, so their reputation is just not shown, whether positive or negative. So each user still has a choice on whether they want their reputation to be seen or not, though reputation may still be given and taken whether a user turns it on or off uniquely, it is just not shown to the public.
The system itself though does not have the capability to assign points to certain factors, ie. allow a user to assign points to how they perceive a post, it is merely their reputation power that is assigned. What you give, also affects your own reputation through the system, that much I will say. So a user has to think about the post, and if they think it deserves opinion, then give it, otherwise, leave it alone until a post warrants the occassion.
