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[Underdog]

It's the same for me in the US. I know my doctor personally, but his time is limited and pushed when on the clock. It's best to be upfront with everything rather than hide.

 

[J_trustno1]

@shimmerz : Absolutely :). I am with you on that. When my venlafaxine dose was increased from 75 mg to 150 mg by a GP, I was worse. The psychiatrist reduced it to 75mg and gave me something on top of it to calm me down that too at lower dose 15mg. However, the 15mg of that med was also too much for me which made me gain 3.5 kg in 6 days. I couldn't accept the mental health over physical health so I called the psychiatrist and told him the side effects as a result my dose was lowered to 7.5 mg (1/4 of a pill). I am finally feeling little to no side effects. Yes, we do need our mental health but we cannot scarifies our physical health over it. Thanks for sharing your view :)

 

[darrenS]

i personally like to simplify things and although i am very aware of the different methods and personalities of different drs , having been through 4 states , many more psychiatrists, therapists , pain management docs etc, than the moves. I have learnt one basic thing, just because they are qualified, does not mean they are good for you. Set your objectives in what you are looking for and then actively look for it. The most important aspect to getting any sort of handle on this , is to ensure that you "click" with your treatment team. I have had some brilliants docs , and therapists, i have also had some lousy ones. With a pain condition as well , that l've had for 35 years, l've seen the real docs, the money makers, the scam artists and the ones you cant put a name too. But the reality is , that this does exist everywhere and I treat it like any other transaction I am investing in. Do your research, make a list and then visit them. It is worth the effort and if you don't want to take meds , no one can make you. There are many ways to get treatment , and you are the driver.

 

[new gamma rays]

@J_trustno1 It sounds like your mother is unstable and uncomfortable with the subject of abuse. I won't get into my experiences with psych wards, because it probably won't help you or me, but sadly they are a route sometimes for family members to push the people they don't understand, or think are the ones that have THE mental problem into a system that is more than willing to believe the bullshit the family says. Its what happened to me, I was put in a completely vulnerable position by my family (i.e. pushed into a hospital with the threat of that or the police) and they didn't give me a second to explain myself, just listened to my parent blab hysterically. All I'll say is f*ck psych wards. I was put into an involuntary psych ward and it was hell. The kind that people are talking about here are more when you go to the hospital on your own and seek mental health treatment, not the kind that you get put into by the state or county. Voluntary psych wards aren't going to use the harsh methods you might have seen in the video. And I'm going to assume that Australia has pretty humane policies compared to elsewhere. I wouldn't worry about the worst of the worst psych wards, but I would empower yourself by knowing what kind of mental health facilities your state or locality have and know your rights and what the criteria of commitment are. It doesn't sound like your mom should have any input into this right now, you should know these things on your own and be empowered. I'm sorry if I scare you, I just know what happened to me and hope it never happens to anyone else.

 

[Lucycat]

Here a psyche ward is a psyche ward. You can be voluntary or involuntary (sectioned) on the same ward together. Some parts of the country have psyche wards within general and community hospitals, in other places they still have designated psychiatric hospitals - although these are getting smaller with less need for inpatient care.

Your mother threatening the psyche ward is like telling a small child the policeman will get them if they take the sweeties. Pure controlling bullying tactics to scare vulnerable people into doing what the adult wants.

Don't listen to her.

 

[J_trustno1]

@Lucycat : Yup you are right! I did figure it out couple of days ago how she uses emotional blackmailing to control both me and my brother. I do love her but I have lost my trust in her last year when she kept one of my abusers (i.e. her narcissistic asshole brother) in our house. She will be keeping another abuser again in the house once his mother dies (i.e. my father)! I just can't live with these people anymore. Had enough of their drama.

 

[anthony]

Are we all being tricked into this hell and will we be stuck on medication for life? Are they just trying to make us more insane with these Pills?? Are they NOT ruining our original brain functioning? These antidepressants DO have side effects and some are life lasting. What would be the alternative way out of this shit we are in?
These so called Mental professionals have all the rights over us and can trap us anytime they like. We are just objects that they can play with to fulfill their financial desires.

This has been debated, and similar videos shown here over the years. Yes, there is some truth in some of this. Yes, there is also some complete paranoid BS in these videos.

There was a court injunction some years ago to get a whole lot of non-published studies on SSRI's released for public viewing, as the studies were done, thus the results should be public whether published officially or not. More often than not, for every 10 studies done, 1 gets published. Yes... you can guess that the one typically confirms what they where trying to prove. The others get buried in a drawer, some because the studies went to crap and too many people fell out or failed to stick with criteria. Some simply didn't back the finding they wanted, so they didn't publish the results. This injunction from a judge forcing the disclosure proved that SSRI's are contradictory to what doctors where telling patients in relation to their effectiveness, and instead SSRI's actually work on a minority, not a majority, and more often than not they create or heighten depression in people. Basically... they shouldn't be used, yet here they are... still being used.

Mental health has history, just as physical health medicine does. Physical health medicine had a history of guessing, observation and assessment, and has shifted to a more scientific foundation today which has also helped diagnose with vast accuracy. Mental health is still very much in the guessing, observation and assessment phase, just as physical health medicine was... though slowly mental health diagnoses are being put under the scientific microscope for validity / or not.

Being gay used to be a mental health issue... science proved otherwise. We have two books, the DSM and ICD, that's it. They are the only two global mental health manuals. Both are full of mental health diagnoses with little or no actual science, but instead observation, assessment and well... best guess based on clinical doctors discussion. Psychiatrists are actual medical doctors, which one should not confuse with psychologists and lesser, who are not. Saying that... they're all still just as dangerous as one another if given too much power and influence into diagnostic application. It is a business model... and even if you're not sick, if you go and see them they can use that to ascertain that you believe you are, thus your very act of being there to see them justifies a billing process.

There are have been many studies, and supporting videos are on YouTube, where people sent students in to see a line of psychologists and psychiatrists. They prepared the students with presenting symptoms and behaviours... not one of them actually had a mental health issue, and nearly all got diagnosed by several of the physicians they sat with. That confirmed the entire validity that the mental health model is still built on the guessing, personal observation and assessment process, which is fundamentally flawed. You have people who think they're sick getting confirmed and treated as such, you have people who aren't ill getting told they are as well.

This doesn't make mental health nonsense, as there are very real and valid mental health issues that have science behind them. The problem is that science isn't used to diagnose yet, like it is with medicine. Scans are not readily available to measure a persons neuronal activity when put under certain influences to gauge whether an issue is present. This is expensive stuff... and not something you're going to find in a therapists office any time soon.

People jump up and down when we send people away here for claiming they got diagnosed with PTSD because their partner left them... but the reality is this is the mental health system being broken in clear action.

The system is broken, no doubt about it. Big pharma in the US have their hand in all the cookie jars... advertising is everywhere. There was an ad in the US a while back that literally said, "do you feel sluggish when waking in the morning?" If you answered yes, they recommended you needed this medication. Ummmm.... seriously.... everyone awakes pretty much slow in the morning, being a little sluggish until you get going. And people would have been stupid enough to buy it...

Mental health is broken, no doubt about it. It has good aspects as well. I would expect that in the coming decades a lot will continue to change as science shows fundamental evidence fore or against mental health diagnoses.