News Why It's So Hard To Talk To White People About Racism

[Bill Dickerson]

I think you have some of your facts fouled up. The people in neighborhood were the ones who wanted to have MOVE evicted. This wasn't just lets pick on MOVE this week. This had stretched on for months while they tried to remove them peacefully. People had been shot by MOVE people. Move had fortified the whole building. The structure on the top was unknowing to the cops filled with containers of gasoline MOVE had stored for the generator. I guess cops are suppose to be able to read minds.

The fire department would not move in because people had been shooting at them.

I think the pertinant question is, whether at that time the pigs in Philly would have done the same in a white neighbourhood?
and whether they would have got away with it quite so easily if it was a white neighbourhood they'd burned out.

This is one of the reasons white people have difficulty talking about race. Cops are pigs and they WANTED to have those people and kids die. All emotion bordering on hate comes flying and no reasonable discussion can occur. I'm sure nothing I can say will get you to examine in a rational way what happened.

Why bother to discuss it ....we are all racist pigs.

 

[Bill Dickerson]

Frontline did a documentary
The Bombing of West Philly - 5/13/85

 

[Anarchy]

The people in neighborhood were the ones who wanted to have MOVE evicted.

and that justified the means used? c'mon, really?
re-arrange the following words to make a common saying: straws, at, grasping.

The fact remains that, whatever you call people who drop a fire bomb on a residential area, a fire bomb was dropped (explosives and gasoline).

and regarding racism, the key question is,

at that time, would that have been attempted in an area inhabited by whites?

Whites have been burned alive since then (a community of Seventh Day Adventists, in their church), and I think that there is a very strong argument to be made that burning blacks in Philadelphia first, was a key enabling and emboldening step on the way to that.

Like all bullies and abusers, they start first on what they think they're most likely to get away with, in the case of cops, it was visible minorities.

Returning to the question of the correct name for people who drop firebombs from helicopters onto residential areas, perhaps pig is the wrong name; I've never learned of four legged pigs using fire on their own kind.
Or Poncing around in MRAVS or throwing flash grenades into cribs, or teenage girl's bedrooms.

 

[Ed Norton]

A whole lot of things police do is intentional or racist---PDs are a haven for psychos and none can be trusted because you never know who's who. Most of the unconstitutional stops were justified by saying that the suspect looked 'fidgety or edgy, some lie like that. It's OK to criticize police when it comes to the mishandling of rape cases even if they are trying to ascertain facts but talk about their senseless brutality, racism or general pigishness then they become 'over stressed heroes with just a few bad ones' which is a lie. I think a lot on forum love the taste of pig dick. And no cops aren't an ethnic group so if I wanna hate the majority of them then I can; if people don't like it ignore button is available. Forbes and the FBI as well as copwatch, YouTube and many other sources back me up. My cousin just got shot; he's alive. I bet if they could easily catch the perpertrator they would so they can meet their quota but honestly they never will cuz they don't care.


Anyway on Bubbers---though he wasn't the brightest bulb and had some interesting ideas of EFATOs (Engine failure on takeoff) not thought of by the performance engineers I.e 'just turn downwind and land ' He most certainly was a great stick and purposely bid for TGU the most dangerous commercial airport in the world. TGU was his favorite

 

[Ed Norton]

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Sorry can't edit:

By the way my economically disenfranchised White best friend was refused financial aid, at first, by a White counselor because he was White at that time I was a faculty member and this Black counselor, whose name now escapes me hooked him up big time with aid. While the MANY nonwhite students did use the aid wisely the hall in the was filled with mostly Black students, failing classes for not attending, harassing people and collecting the aid money---and they mostly were punk ass niggas not even really hood. Nobody was allowed to do anything about it because then that would be 'racist'. They didn't f*ck with me cuz I am mean.

My best friend is now getting his PhD---the world is complicated.

 

[Ed Norton]

EFATO---'just turn downwind and land' not sure how that went missing--anyway usually a very bad idea cumulogrannitis and radiomasts

 

[Anarchy]

'just turn downwind and land '

He likes the taste of dirt?

 

[Anarchy]

Oh hell, holiday post cards showing the approach!

 

[Ed Norton]

Anarchy, I'll explain in PM why the others got their designations either Barnstormer, Crazy or Fool-alt alreadhough I explained the 'Fool' already (He's retired) Bob is no longer with us and has 'Flown West' and Ken prefers anonymity but those designations weren't random though---again I screwed up ---EFATO-Engine Failure AT or AFTER Takeoff---of course after decision speed V1.

I promise not to go into takeoff segments especially second segment limiting departures-nor will I talk about ASDA, TORA, TODA, RESAs and Clearways lol

 

[Ronin]

Omg guys, but seeing @Bill Dickerson round here made me seriously happy.

Bill, I'm glad you're still well enough & passionate bout arguing on racism. :tup: Was worried about you.

 

[Ronin]

Yep, @Ed Norton, totally relating.

I was kicked out of classes for apparently being intelligent and doing what was asked of students, thinking critically, when asked for it. In classes full of white, cis guys. When I went to ask school dept if that teacher can even do that to some internal regulations of a faculty I just wouldn't happen to know about, I got blank stares and outrage on my behalf, citing they 'never heard of something like that happening'.

Not even starting on all the bullshit about 'positive discrimination' some whiteys start whenever some other teacher doesn't share the racist views & engages students equally like, gasp, intelligent people. Eyerollin' & facepalming.

But yeah, sure, we're all equal, and all.

 

[Ed Norton]

I just wish that this whole thread would just die. It is hard to talk to most White people about it cuz one half thinks everything is racism the other half believes it never occurs and if it does you can just sue---EEOC, Right to Sue Letter, Pretrial Motions, Dispositive Motions, Depositions, and $$$---then there's the pure ardent racists. I think that I maybe the only nonwhite poster in this thread and clearly most believes a lot of the MSM brainwashing or have preconceived notions and do not know what the hell they are talking about---not all but a lot, enough. ----Saying Tallyho when a Cessna is flying at you from 12 O'clock ---No joy