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[ms spock]

Idiots from hotspots in Victoria have come up here without testing or quarantine. I am furious. We don't go out. Wear masks and gloves for medical appointments etc. Some folks do not have choices, they have choices. I told B I don't want to talk to them.

None of the other successful countries let it pass through: Mongolia, Vietnam, New Zealand, Iceland, Figi, Trinidad, Tobago, etc

I respectfully disagree about letting it go through is perhaps not the best. We could not do the targeted testing that Australia is doing now.

The countries who eradicated it wouldn't be able to do that. Like Taiwan,

“We may have stemmed the spread of the virus but a sense of apprehension persists due to our harrowing past experience.”

Vietnam has only 439 COVID-19 cases and six deaths have been reported on the island of 23 million.

‘Taiwan’s SARS experience helped it beat COVID-19’


COVID Underdogs: Mongolia The best COVID-19 response in the world.

Some parts of Mongolia have the same density of population as Bergamo in Italy, the hardest hit region.

Look what Mongolia did in January!

Throughout February, Mongolia procured face masks, test kits, & PPE; examining hospitals, food markets, and cleaning up the city.

President Kh. Battulga returned from a trip to China, he himself went into quarantine for 14 days. That's a huge public health advertisement. Best practice in full view.

On March 10th, Mongolia recorded its first confirmed case of COVID-19. A French national who had arrived from Moscow on March 2nd...They isolated his entire office & train. They quarantined the entire district. Mongolia decontaminated 9.2 million square meters, across 6,000 locations.

COVID Underdogs: Mongolia


Vietnam has had only 55 active Covid-19 cases and zero deaths, and in the 21-day sequence between April 16 and May 7, 2020, it reported zero new infections.

It is worth emphasising that Vietnam is one of the poorest nations in Southeast Asia, with GDP per capita of barely $2,500 – 13 times less than Italy and 25 times less than the United States.

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Thailand had the world's first coronavirus case outside China. Here's how it avoided disaster

"Thais are pretty quick if they're feeling unwell, or think they're going to be exposed to people who are unwell, they immediately put on a mask," Mr Wise said.

Thailand has about 13 million Chinese tourists a year.

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New Zealand’s government will lift all Covid-19 restrictions except stringent border controls almost immediately, prime minister Jacinda Ardern has said, as the nation’s health officials declared that there were no longer any known, active cases of the coronavirus remaining.

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[blackemerald1]

Idiots from hotspots in Victoria have come up here without testing or quarantine. I am furious. We don't go out. Wear masks and gloves for medical appointments etc. Some folks do not have choices, they have choices. I told B I don't want to talk to them.

^Just to be sure you understand.. the entire State of Victoria is not a hot-spot. Only a few suburbs of Melbourne.
Those people have been advised to not travel and further, the Premiers of each State with it's borders open, (New South Wales?) has advised it's own residents & businesses not to accept bookings from people from those places. A statutory declaration was the best tool to try to keep people honest regarding that. Well sort of lol...

So if NSW? has accepted bookings from Victorians lol... what does that say about NSW? The mighty dollar!! Yes!!

Or maybe they came from some regional part of Victoria where the virus is yet to occur?

Lots of innocent explanations for why those 'idiots' might be there lol....

 

[ms spock]

^Just to be sure you understand.. the entire State of Victoria is not a hot-spot. Only a few suburbs of Melbourne.

Indeed I am aware which 10 suburbs of Melbourne are hotspots. I have listed them below. The press briefing on the situation was specific and detailed. I watched it in full because I know folks in Melbourne, and folks travel. Broadmeadows and Keilor Downs are the two suburbs that have the highest levels of community transmission. Dan Andrews said they will have 50% of their populations tested for SARS-CoV-2 in the next ten days, more if they can manage it.

1. Keilor Downs

2. Maidstone

3. Albanvale

4. Sunshine West

5. Hallam

6. Broadmeadows

7. Brunswick West

8. Fawkner

9. Reservoir

10. Pakenham

I really don't think there would be a single Australian that would think that the whole of Victoria is a hotspot? Australia, hasn't, so far had a whole city that is a hotspot, nevertheless a whole state that has been a hotspot. We have been immensely lucky. 40% of Australian parents had taken their children out of the schools 3-4 weeks before Scott Morrison announced the lock down. Many folks who could work at home had already commenced. We went into lockdown in late February, so did others that we know. The less Australians moving around the higher the chance that asymptomatic transmission is not occurring.

Those people have been advised to not travel and further,

They ignored this and traveled anyway. They got a talking to at the border though, promised they wouldn't go out and would go into immediate 14 day quarantine, but they went out shopping.

We had got to the point of starting to go out, and I am really grateful that they did this now, because you cannot over estimate the ways in which some Australians are so stupid and selfish.

Lots of innocent explanations for why those 'idiots' might be there...

It is a possibility I guess that there is another case of people who have an innocent explanation for coming from one of the above 10 suburbs. Perhaps people who don't watch the news and don't know SARS-CoV-2 is in Australia? I know people who never watch the news, so it is a small possibility. This is definitely not the case in the aforementioned "idiots".

We have discussed the ethics of lock down, protecting ourselves so we make sure not to transmit to any vulnerable and high risk folks, and making sure you don't be a vector of transmission. They are retired. There is no economic reason for their travel. They are also both high risk themselves and innocent people have been exposed due to their selfishness.

 

[ms spock]

Keilor Downs and Broad Meadows are the two with the most community transmissions. Then Maidstone, Albanvale, Sunshine West, Hallam, Brunswick West, Fawkner, Reservoir and Pakenham. These ten suburbs will have a targeted testing blitz because of their high rates of community transmission.

I had already said this about the suburbs in Melbourne, but forgot to read back what I had said it earlier. Ah well.

I really feel for what everyone is going through with Covid19 deaths and the spread of SARS-CoV-2. My best to you all.

I am so feeling for folks. I really am. The immense stress that so many people are under. I am sending you self compassion, lighted candles and best wishes today.

In Australia we have been extraordinarily lucky. It doesn't mean we do not have to be vigilant. People can and do travel from hotspots like the idiots from one of the hotspots in one the ten suburbs in Melbourne just have. So you just don't know where people have been and whether they were tested and/or have been in 14 days of quarantine.

However, Victoria is having what they are calling a second wave of SARS-CoV-2. It's not on par of the course in so many poor people in so many places, but it is stressful.

But we are lucky there's a group of 1000 strong of dock knockers/tester folks.

And they are so well organised and there is no police involvement as they don't want people to baulk at being tested. There is some smart thinking going on there.

They are going to test 50% in some of those suburbs in Victoria. There will be testing vans at the end of a lot of people's streets. Australia is very lucky that we have both the political will to trace community transmission and the physical resources to follow up on the rising infections.

We have a health system that looks after everyone. We are just so fortunate.

Anyway the idiots from Melbourne shook me out of a growing complacency.

We've only gone out to a couple of medical appointments, and contactless pick ups. It is strange after all this time at home. A few buildings were built. I haven't gone out without a mask and gloves, santiser, bags to put things in that are potentially contaminated and I wasn't planning on changing that but I had started to relax into well it looks like we have missed a second wave of SARS-CoV-2. Perhaps we could go out away from other folks to exercise? It was understandably naive I guess.

The idiots from a Melbourne suburb hotspot are exercising around a certain confluence of lakes and ponds. All the people walking past them are unaware they are potentially spreaders. It's really not fair on other people, as well as being unethical.

We have our vegetable garden so we can make it through most of the rest of this year.

Going outside to be in the sun and take the chicks for a walk on grass. Have a good one folks.

 

[DharmaGirl]

My state mandated masks on June 26th, so I went out and bought 2 more adorable chicken masks. In the middle of nowhere, they don't believe in the virus, they still believe it is a political move by the democrats, so needless to say, almost no one wears masks. I went to a mini mart to get gas, and the people who worked there weren't wearing masks. They also serve food. I other person out of about 15 was wearing a mask and they were from another state. This causes a lot of anxiety for me, but I handled it well, and barely got upset. I did have to nicely ask a non mask wearing person in line behind me to please step back, and she was very nice about it.

I'm getting a bit depressed about the whole thing. About how many people aren't educated enough to understand how a virus spreads, and how differently they express. It's sad to see that in the middle of this uptick in cases, the government is moving to cut off health insurance from so many poor people. The civil unrest (my words, I know it's not that bad yet) is scaring me. I'm all for the BLM movement, but it seems that there are many, many unhappy people protesting. I have to follow up, but a headline said there was rioting near where I live now. Sigh. Back to what Queen Elizabeth II said at the beginning of this, "I hope in the years to come everyone will be able to take pride in how they responded to this challenge”

 

[Sideways]

Perhaps we could go out away from other folks to exercise?

Give some strong consideration to doing this. Covid isn't the only health risk you need to manage - your mental health is another one, and getting out, and exercising, are both critical to keeping your mental health reasonably well-managed.

 

[ms spock]

That is true @Sideways but I can easily get in 20,000 steps and be in nature where I live. I set up a meditation platform in the sun and some pathways in the remnant vegetation. I am doing some weeding of the feral weeds. We have Koala trees. Gardening is also good exercise. I would love to go kayaking and in a couple of months when we see how things go in Australia, then we will see.

In Taiwan where they tested everyone in the airplanes before they left the plane and then they went into paid quarantine with food dropped off to them - yes well they can go out, wearing masks and go about their day to day lives with a minimal risk. Mongolia, Vietnam, New Zealand etc etc etc

I watched on "China in Focus" where they opened up Year 12 in a school, with staff and students wearing masks, and had to close down the school two weeks later due to the spread. SARS-CoV-2 is out of control in some Provences in China, still, the Chinese Communist Party is lying. It's terrible the racist slurs and violence towards Chinese people that is happening around the world, so I make a note to distinguish the two, but as we don't have accurate information from the initial source about the spread. I want to see how the Science develops over time.

Italy has a better medical system and more ICU beds than Australia has and they got swamped.

Australia flattened the curve and we are relatively safe, but the information that I have read about, in Scientific journals, other news and Science sources, Professor Raina MacIntyre, Bob Bowtell and Norman Swan (not such a fan of Norman he was pretty blaise about students going back to school despite the research about children spreading it, but he's more for a populist audience,) means I have a bit of an understanding of what is going on and how it looked before SARS-CoV-2 spread and then took off as Covid19. Italy was like Australia at one point. We might rein in SARS-CoV-2 or we might not but we are not going to be guinea pigs for that experiment.

If Australia had stayed in lock down until the 19th of June, we would have had a 85% chance of eradication. So our politicians can give $29 billion dollars to prop up fossil fuels each year, but can't pay job seekers, ah yeah, no, not playing that game. The top 250 companies, avoid enough tax, each, individually, to pay a Universal Basic Income for each and every Australian for 20 years, every year. A third of employers don't pay their employees superannuation and wage theft is the biggest crime in Australia but I didn't see a course on that at Law School. Most Australians are unaware of just how much wage theft there is in Australia. Don't have much money but wouldn't give it to them anyway. Some of them get tax refunds despite paying little or no tax.

None of my medical friends that have taken leave are going out yet.

Those idiots that just came up from a hotspot in Melbourne - it really brings it home that Australia doesn't cover what the World Health Organisation says in the press briefings, and there's only a couple of people I know that watch them. Even the journalists are obviously not watching them from some of the things that they saying. So the level of knowledge of the average Australian is pretty low from what I have observed. And I don't trust that folks are educated well enough, and there have been mixed messages. One of the idiots from Melbourne has allergies and often sneezes. They are walking around some well attended path ways and lakes. A sneeze can travel 8 metres. If you are asymptomatic you don't know that you have got it.

I have severe anxiety so things are not much different from usual except the incredible pressure I feel around seeing and being with other people has been cut back significantly. And I would be fine to be like this for the rest of the year. It might be a really healing experience for me, who knows.

Renovations are also really good exercise, as well. There's heaps to be done. Due to Papa Bear being so ill the house has had no work done on it for about two decades.

Many people have no choice, so if we stay in lock down and don't go out that's one little bit less added to the whole equation. It's a tiny contribution I know, but it's my contribution. If everyone was supported to do it for three months then the virus couldn't spread.

Exercise is very important and being out in nature is crucial for me, but it's a watch this space and wait and see, in terms of going out.

 

[whiteraven]

In the middle of nowhere, they don't believe in the virus, they still believe it is a political move by the democrats, so needless to say, almost no one wears masks. I went to a mini mart to get gas, and the people who worked there weren't wearing masks.

Yeah, here too.

 

[Deanna]

Yeah, here too.

Some people here don't believe it, either. They're saying its a political move. I'm so sick of it..so uneducated. The reason this person I speak of says this, is she doesn't know anyone that has died from covid-19. I told her one if my doctors died from it but she doesn't know him! She doesn't realize out ignorant she sounds.

 

[ms spock]

I have my fingers crossed for Victoria, sadly knowing that in our local area idiots from a hotspot suburb in Melbourne, have arrived, being arrogant and entitled, have been told they came from a hotspot, were still let in at the border, despite that, they said they were going into quarantine but are actually walking around in a beautiful area for the birds with ponds and bridges, where everyone is going to exercise. So if they've got it, they are spreading it. Morons. I am really f*cking pissed off about it. It's so god damned selfish.

 

[Sideways]

idiots from a hotspot suburb in Melbourne, have arrived,

I think it's time to let this go. This is gossip, which is not helpful to anyone. You've posted about this unknown couple and their alleged exercise routine at least 3 times now.

 

[blackemerald1]

Oh Joy... several suburbs in Melbourne. Victoria are being returned to stage three lock down. The police are going to be used to enforce various boundaries. - The public seems to be with the State government on this, showing overall support for the idea. Obviously some businesses are pissed but they are going to be given $5,000 one off payment to help ease some of the pain.

Despite the expectation that there would be a rise in infections because testing had been quickly increased to ascertain the extent of the virus I wonder if there may be something else going on that they're worried about? Anyway, as of midnight tomorrow there will be a return to the quiet life for about 300,000 people.

And there's going to be a cessation of repatriating Australian travellers into Melbourne - they're being diverted to other States for the moment. Given the scandalous revelation that security teams that were supposed to be guarding those travellers during mandatory quarantine have now tested positive, no wonder. The defence force are doing it now. I bet they won't be quite so friendly lol..