News Worldwide impact of the novel coronavirus (covid-19)

[katz]

I'm not sure if anyone else feels this way or not. But I want to express what I seem to feel.

I read an article this morning that is mentioning people that have had Covid, may feel that they have PTSD. I don't know why this bothers me - but it does. Kind of like having another person say they have PTSD because they broke up with their boyfriend - just because you have it. I understand that these people are going thru very traumatic times.. but sometimes I find it hard to compare it to what I went thru.

I tell myself that this sounds almost selfish..it is not like it is "my" disease or condition. I just think that it is going to be very difficult for me to understand how these people can feel the same way as me. It's almost like competing with my siblings for the attention of the Dr. or my parents. I feel like it is telling me that "your not sick enough" to be considered as ill as these people.

My trauma is just as bad as theirs - but I feel like I'm just going to be "swept under the rug", simply because my trauma is not from Covid. Has anyone else felt this way?

 

[Ronin]

I understand that sentiment @katz , though personally don't relate...

And it's not the culture where I am.
My country still takes covid as a health issue, the politicalness of it didn't arrive here at all and people keep mostly following recommendations.

Plus haven't heard of PTSD claims of covid here. Mostly also because PTSD itself is understood as single-event life threatening trauma thing here... often even victims of sexual violence don't get diagnosed... and vets of regular military get told if they didn't want issues they shouldn't deployed to Afghanistan, very publicly - that is if anybody gives a f*ck, and most don't, military as a whole have a bad rep here and are associated with neo Nazis in the public eye.

Different cultures. Around many issues. PTSD and corona included.

 

[user27357]

people that have covid may feel that they have PTSD. Yes. but they don't have a diagnosis if they FEEL they have PTSD. with a diagnosis, they HAVE PTSD.
Sometimes I feel like I don't measure up because I wasn't raped or shot at. I have to take the words of a counselor- its a cliff you fell off. pushed by what doesn't matter, the fall is what matters.
I have no doubt that many many people are thinking about having covid first thing in the morning, all day long, and tossing and turning with it all night, and there is no safe escape, and it is a threat to survival that has got their fight / flight in overdrive. That feels like PTSD makings. We will see how the cake bakes.

 

[Ronin]

Yeah @enough but we'd be back to if mere presence of a virus counts as a threat of death.

One could say countries where diseases are more common before covid jumped in should have the first rights to claim alarming rates of PTSD... and they don't. Because just feelings during pandemy are not the same as actually being sick, witnessing others sick & dying, and responding to any of it in any capacity.

Personally? The criteria is clear cut.
Applies to corona too.

Just feeling whatever one does can better be treated as any of anxiety, depression spectrums disorders, generalized or specific phobias, delusions, and whichever else applies for corona related mental issues.

But to jump straight to PTSD is moronic. Bad science. Bad medicine.

 

[DharmaGirl]

Yes. but they don't have a diagnosis if they FEEL they have PTSD

The media has used this before. It muddies the waters when it comes to having PTSD. It doesn't give it to them, they just experience some symptoms. A mental illness is normal behaviors taken to the extreme, where it interferes with your daily life. If people feel like they have PTSD, hopefully they will get better with time.

@katz, your therapist is right. PTSD is not based on the extent of your trauma, it is based on a trauma and symptoms. You are a member of the club because you had trauma and symptoms, not best trauma, or the most horrible, but enough to give you the condition. I'm sorry you have it, and it doesn't really compare with what other people who think they have it have.

 

[Innordinate]

We have the highest amount of covid cases that we've had since the start of our lockdown blah blah blah covid crap in March.

But theres a big propaganda push by our provincial govt. to make sure we all know how great we're doing- compared to other provinces and harder hit countries. And how much more testing we're doing and blah blah blah....

But we have over 250 cases now in the big city here now. In the middle of the 'crisis' or our so called 'peak' it never surpassed 190.

At the beginning of our re-opening we had 45 cases.

They just announced meetings of 200 people are allowed outside - the day before Canada Day ?

And the best part is- the majority of people are buying into it.
We're safe. We did it! We flattened the curve!! We're better than everyone!!
not sure whether to laugh at the completely predictable mass idiocy currently taking place. Its really pathetic.

Meanwhile hospitals are going on stricter regulations and locking down hard and fast. Because they know whats coming.

I'll just be over here- self quarantining even more while you idiots run amok.

 

[user27357]

My state just mandated masks for all indoor activities, starting tomorrow July 1.
Today I went to the big box store and forgot to grab a cart on my way in. I told the guy checking for membership cards at the door I needed to go back out and grab one, but he just pointed to a big line of carts just past the door. He told me that's where he was putting the carts of the people that refused to wear a mask and were denied entry.

 

[whiteraven]

I read an article this morning that is mentioning people that have had Covid, may feel that they have PTSD. I don't know why this bothers me - but it does.

I understand this. I haven't noticed it here with ptsd, but there is so much out there around here about how depressed people are because of all the changes and how we need to start paying attention to mental health because...well, you know. All these people with depression because of COVID.

And yet. Here are all these other people with severe depression, who can't come out of their houses, who have had it for years, who are disabled with it. who think about killing themselves every day. These people don't matter because...well they just don't.

That makes me crazy.

 

[Freida]

A a big chunk of my ptsd comes from a horrific hospital experience so I can sympathize with those who are getting it. But. The cases I've seen that "qualify" are the really, really bad ones -- especially those who had to be on ventilators. That is a horrific experience for many of them and on top of being sick and miserable and alone they have to deal with paralyses and hallucinations brought on by the drugs they are using to treat them.

So ya -- getting ptsd from cough cough stay home watch tv? Maybe, but not.
Getting ptsd from holy crap I'm dying, ambulance, hospital staff constantly hurting you, delusions, hysteria, never ending pain, ventilator breathing for you, blah blah? Yep. That's gonna mess you up.

 

[DharmaGirl]

You are right, I didn't even think before I wrote. I really need to think about it from all angles before I make up my mind. Since I worked in a hospital, being a patient doesn't bother me as much as others. I even woke up during surgery and was able to keep calm because I knew they would discover that I was awake and put me back to sleep.

I heard a senator today say that people who wear masks are against the president, and people who don't are for him. That makes no sense to me as stated. I understand that many people still believe the virus is a hoax to take down the president, but I wear a mask to protect others, period. Not because of my politics. I believe many people are wearing masks not because of their political affiliation, but because they also don't want to infect others if they have it.

I'm struggling with all that's going on, the fear of everything going to shit. Just for a few minutes though, I have too much to do to move before the area where I'm going is at a different level than the one I'm in.

 

[Innordinate]

Hoping rain means less people out celebrating Canada day (read: passing around covid) in big groups and not just that they'll all be huddled closer under umbrellas celebrating Canada day (passing around covid)
f*cking Canadians :shifty:
????

 

[lostforgottensoul]

Havard Global Health says that Florida is at a tipping point. Most counties in Central Florida (where I am) in red. Says that Florida has 2nd highest number of cases in the US. Not sure how true that is. 158,997 cases though they say that cases by day are going down. They credit that to more people wearing masks. Masks are monitory in Orange county but they aren't in the county I live in and I still see many people without any masks on in grocery stores and Walgreens and gas stations (only places I've been in). Which is frustrating. If masks are what is helping the numbers go down and that's proven, then our governor needs to mandate it for the entire State.

Unemployment falls to 11.1% but the number of people filing for unemployment for the first time rose last week.

Tourism is down 95% and have lost millions of tax dollars.

Just a few things I heard on the news for the few mins it was turned on. Florida is not fairing well, as far as I can tell.