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MVA As A Volunteer First Responder I Learned A Lot About Accidents

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user27357

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I served in a rural fire district, often alone on my truck until other volunteers or the paid ambulance EMTs arrived on scene.

Because of what I saw and heard, I know many things about the causes of accidents on rural roads and highways, things I sometimes wish I didn't know .

First, tailgating. I see tailgaters like they are people in the act of committing negligent homicide. Think about this: How would you prepare for being struck by a 2000 pound vehicle at around 2 mph? Helmet? Football Pads? Wrap yourself in a mattress?. Say you are going 60 mph and the car behind you is tailgating you and you have to suddenly stop, slowing quickly from 60 to 40 mph. If the tailgater was also doing 60 and doesn't slow, you will be struck by that 2000 lb. car at the equivalent of 20 mph. Now how would you prepare? Even airbags and crumple zones don't offer much protection from a rear end collision, at 2 or 20 mph.

Even worse is the secondary result of being struck from behind while still in motion, being out of control and heading into oncoming traffic. First hit from behind at 20 mph, now dissipating the remaining 40 mph you are carrying into an oncoming car, a tree, a ditch, maybe the car in front of you that made you slow to 40 in the first place.

I see tailgaters as potential negligent killers. I wish everyone could see and understand that keeping an extra 4 or 5 car lengths between you and the car in front of you raises everyones odds of getting home alive greatly. Being too close to the car in front of you is frankly just asking for a whole lot of trouble and catastrophe.

Second, impaired drivers. I know that users develop a tolerance to any drug and just setting an arbitrary level of a drug in a persons system is a poor measure of impairment. My first beer impaired me much more than 5 or 6 would now. I live in a state that has legalized marijuana, my first joint-someday- will impair me much more than the hundredth one should I decide to continue to use. Opiates and Benzoes are even worse, with tolerances developing rapidly and higher doses following.

In my mind, the real crime is selfishness and a lack of concern for the safety of others, and it doesn't apply to just drunk and impaired drivers. A driver that tailgates because they are in a hurry is being selfish. A person that runs a red light to avoid waiting through another cycle is being selfish. A drunk that decides to drive home rather than get a cab is being selfish.

Selfish driving is the crime and it doesn't have a measurable level like a drug in a bloodstream. The only measurable quantity is a driving record and I am all for setting some driving infractions into a much more serious category, similar to what we consider careless or reckless driving today. I think we should record cases of selfish driving and consider them extremely indicative of a persons potential for being a potential killer on the road.

Hit and run? Huge mark on your record. Driving impaired? High value should be put on that indicator. Tailgating because you are in a hurry? Huge. Running red lights to get to a job on time? Huge. Run a red light because you just couldn't stop safely in time? Not so much. Speeding when you are trying to get the kids to school on time? Huge. Doing 55 in a 45 when everyone else is too? No big deal, maybe a speeding ticket but not my definition of selfish driving by any means.

It becomes painfully obvious to anyone that has seen as many accident scenes as I have that the main cause of accidents is selfishness and lack of concern for others safety. The most common thing I heard from victims and the people that caused the accident was the same: "I never thought this would happen to me".

I can't ever say that. I think it will happen to me. All the time everyday. I expect it, and get very angry when I see people driving in a way that will inevitably have them looking into the eyes of an EMT or a volunteer like myself and saying "I never thought it would happen to me". Selfishness triggers me badly.

It is hard to be out there driving because it is a necessary part of my survival in this world knowing that it is in many ways the highest threat to my survival I experience. I can't help it, when someone causes a near miss, I react with full adrenaline and 100% percent fight or flight thinking, sometimes for hours. Retelling the story of a near miss brings me to sweat and anger, talking about it here in this post has forced me to go back and edit out stronger language many many times. I can't be alone, are there any others out there that can offer some insight? Support? Being this angry and threatened this often is causing me too much wear and tear, too much stress on my body and I worry that it will never get better, I also worry that I might get complacent and less vigilant and end up in a ditch or in someones ambulance because of it.
 
I should add that I am not a road rager. I get very angry and it makes me want to pull over and escape the danger for just a little while.

I used to get angry and follow people until I had a chance to tell them what I thought of their driving but I had an experience where doing that may have caused a very inconsiderate driver to be an even worse driver so I don't do it anymore. Interacting with these people doesn't do anyone any good, they need legal intervention that will hopefully reduce the likelihood of medical intervention. After all, if they were reasonable in the first place, they would take their driving as seriously as a heart attack. Thats reasonable, lots of people wish they had taken both their heart condition and their driving more seriously only when it is too late.

I really do get angry, I really do feel the fight or flight kick in fully, but I have made a decision to take the safer course and pull over, drop back, turn off, get as far from the offenders as I can. Tough when they are everywhere.
 
I'm glad you started this thread. I haven't been involved in anything more serious than a fender-bender, but whenI drive, I'm constantly on the watch for the asshole who might kill me, because I know that s/he is out there. I'm not a paranoid driver, in fact I love driving, but I feel like I'm on high alert when I'm on the road.

Having said that, though, I do sometimes dissociate while driving. As soon as I realize it, I get myself grounded, but it's scary. Once, many years ago, I was so zoned out I nearly drove into an oncoming train. The lights were flashing, and the train's horn was blaring, but I didn't even see it hear it. And that was with no drugs or alcohol in my system. I got lucky that day, and I have no interest in pushing my luck any farther than that.

I once called out an asshole driver, and he chased me, so now I do my best to keep a low profile out there.
 
I hear you, @enough.

Are you still volunteering?
Because maybe you could channel your passion into a program aimed at reducing road trauma.

We used to go into high schools with crash dummy in a car wreck and show the seniors how we extricate the victim.
We'd state the effect it has on us rescuers, and we would have a victim (usually wheelchair bound) attend with their families to explain how speeding changed their life, and the lives of their families.

Usually when the victim asked "would you want your loved ones to wash you and toilet you for the rest of your life?" was when the schoolkids would begin bawling.

You could be a passionate, driven (no pun intended ;)) and valuable member of a road safety awareness campaign!
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I have also taken part in the school scenarios and presentations, and they can be quite powerful and educational for many students. The flip side of that is, while I can help educate, I have no control over others' s**ty driving. I can only control my driving, and drive defensively. I always just assume that the other drivers are idiots: a car is going to run the red light, or fail to stop at the sign, or rear end me. It's like practicing EMS scenarios - train your mind & body how to act (not react). Do the same with driving. That assumption literally saved my life last year.
 
I couldn't volunteer anymore, I just can't do it to myself. I have thought about help[ing with intervention, but I gave my time and don't want to do it anymore at all, in any way. I do volunteer work, like habitat for humanity and such, but I steer clear of the medical and firefighting and law enforcement arena.

Thanks for the ideas and for sharing similar experiences with me. I am getting by and staying alive and un triggered for the most part. Some days, I just want to quit work, sell my home and property and move into a condo near a grocery store and a sports bar and let my license expire, but I know thats not an answer. I just keep myself safe and pretend I am invisible and pull over for tailgaters and never trust anyone, anywhere, to drive like their lives depend on it.

I almost envy all the people that told me "I never thought this would happen to me". I have to wonder if they could still say it or if they are now, just a little bit, like me.
 
Besides driving like grandma, another thing emergency services has made me fussy about, is TYRES.

I dunno, perhaps seeing hundreds of kilometres of skid marks and burnt rubber, has made me acutely aware that you only have four bits of rubber the size of your hand connecting your vehicle to the road.

Never buy cheap tyres, and always purchase the safest vehicle you can afford.

*gets off soapbox*
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Here in the US there are laws about such things but they are seldom enforced unless it is an additional charge on top of several other charges. The last time I heard about a worn tire citation, it was on top of a vehicular manslaughter charge.

If you think it looks cool to have a very narrow tire tread tire mounted on a very wide rim so the sidewalls are at a 45-degree angle to the ground, you can get away with it in the US. I think the cops may be afraid of racial profiling for that infraction because it is associated with a certain ethnic group and their choice of vehicle appearance. Nothing against the cops, the ethnic group, or really the tire choice, I guess I just wish that when those skinny tires come off the rims under heavy braking no one had to hear anyone say "I never thought it would happen to me".

My choice for vehicle is the biggest Chevrolet pickup they had, with 4 wheel drive and anti lock brakes. I have a running account with a major tire supplier here in the northwest corner of the US and I keep them fresh. I put studded tires on in winter when it snows and take them back off after the weather warms back up, maybe 3 or 4 cycles on/offf every year. My wife has the same but on a smaller truck that has tire pressure monitors on it (high cotton!).

And I wash my headlight and tail light lenses when I clean my windshield at the gas station and carry spare wiper blades, a BIG flashlight, and road flares and an extinguisher. It isn't that something will or won't happen, it's when. And most importantly, it's what happens next that can make all the difference.

There ought to be minimum safety equipment requirements and maximum stopping distances for every car or truck out there, and cops that had the time to enforce them.

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