Differences Between Combat And Abuse Related Ptsd

[EveHarrington]

I am talking more about civilian acceptance. I know the military does not, and I think part of that is th...

I agree with you based on the misconception that you can only get PTSD from war/military.

 

[Sighs]

The respect for war heroes in Australia I think is growing

In my experience the lip service we pay to dead war heroes is growing. As for the living? We don't know what the hell to do with them.

My vet has so many medals his suit jacket drags on that side. Not one person has ever come up to him on Anzac Day, shaken his hand and thanked him for his service. They look him up and down, avert their eyes and walk away.

Anzac Day has become some kind of community fete. They clap for the Scouts, the Rural Fire Service and the SES. Its a joke. This year my vet took off to the bush. He couldn't face another Anzac Day march.

 

[Ed Norton]

:(

Outwardly, I don't look like Lester but inwardly I feel like Lester and on PPRuNE when Pugilistic Animus signed off as Lester nobody liked Lester but like Lester; I DON'T CARE!

https://books.google.com/books?id=P...v=onepage&q=lester fate is the hunter&f=false

Ed Aka PA aka Lester

Just for reference purposes. Right now I can fly a Learjet to Houston. Not crazy; Not off topic

 

[mary1979]

In my experience the lip service we pay to dead war heroes is growing. As for the living? We don't know...

Totally agree about the ANZAC day parade, its all about show now and little to do with respecting current serving members.
I dont go to dawn service or anything, the day always causes me to pause and reflect on those I know currently serving, as well as those long gone.

I never know what to say to those I've met from the military.
Any comment could be received badly so I try to avoid it.

My sister was dating a guy from the air force a few years ago, and at family gatherings when everyone would have the usual hows work chatter over dinner he would always clam up.
He told my sister he couldn't talk about it because of privacy, the guy didn't even use fb because of it.
So we all kept quiet.

I often acutely felt he was isolated from us over it.

Difficult.

But much respect to your partner :)

 

[Ed Norton]

I would like this opportunity to truly and honestly thank the veterans for their service whether they give a shit or not.

Ed

 

[anthony]

Not one person has ever come up to him on Anzac Day, shaken his hand and thanked him for his service.

I haven't worn mine since leaving the military 12 years ago. I don't have that many though, only four. I refused to accept a fifth one, as it was for some admin type aspect based on the tours I had done, combined with being in 10 years... it wasn't long service, that medal is 15 years, but some new thing they brought in not long before I discharged, which made me eligible for it. My then wife was trying to get me to apply for it, but I refused. My four I earned from operations... I don't like the give me medals.

 

[mary1979]

I haven't worn mine since leaving the military 12 years ago. I don't have that many though, only four. I re...

Struggle with praise??

 

[mary1979]

Oh crap. Sorry that posted by itself in me happens all the time.

Anyway, apologies for this, especially if its a sore point, but still.
Much respect for you and your service @anthony.

 

[Ed Norton]

Al Haynes and Denny Fitch and crew also struggled with praise Al still blames himself cuz he thinks he cut the power too early but over 150 survivors. They all should have died

Google him
I'm not worthy to kiss their feet

Anyway for those too lazy to Google, This was an amazing feat of airmanship. I don't know how they got anywhere near a runway. Btw I'm not worthy to kiss any of the crew's feet, including the flight attendants.. please let's not judge one another here and I too have judged as I know there are many great police officers but I refused to say that while being judged.

New requirements for hydraulic valves were written, no worries it won't happen again so total hydraulic failure is super remote as a possibility now. Plenty of good DC-10s in service, mostly cargo Fedex has a ton of 'em

I don't like to frighten the ground people

:)

 

[Sideways]

@Sighs - it's remarkable how differently things can be interpreted.

I haven't been to the march for the last 2 yrs because I can't handle the crowds any more. But each year that I did go, I always thought that it was incredibly moving and tragic at the same time. People lining city blocks on a public holiday to bear witness to our soldiers- not something we do much of in this country generally, but the need for all these soldiers at the same time, because of how humanity treats each other. So for me, yeah, always simultaneously remarkable and tragic.

And I've never asked a soldier to shake their hand. But that's by no means a reflection of some absence of gratitude. Every year that I've gobe to the parade, you won't find me up the front waving flags, every year, without fail, I end up at the back. Crying. Quietly, but immensely grateful.

Maybe a lot of it is just lip service. But it's public acknowledgment, in a big way, and that's a start. We'd have something to be ashamed of if we stopped acknowledging it publicly the way we do.

 

[Sighs]

But it's public acknowledgment, in a big way

Nope. It isn't. More and more. The fact that the local scout group, the RFS, the SES and (in our neck of the woods anyway) a bunch of randoms on horses ALSO march and are ALSO "publicly acknowledged" render the whole thing meaningless. The march should be ONLY veterans. Its not like we don't have enough of them.

 

[Sighs]

@anthony - after Anzac Day last year, my vet left them pinned to his suit jacket hanging in the cupboard and said "Oh well, I guess the next time I wear them can be when you bury me in that suit." Sigh!