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How Long Do You Isolate

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I just read someone's comment that sometimes they don't even realize they're isolating until they wake up from it months or years later? What does that mean? I don't understand. Wouldn't that be more like a form a disassociation? I mean isn't isolation a little more conscious than that? Please correct me if I'm wrong, I just thought isolation was more of a conscious shutting down to relieve stress, like everybody does, but on another level. Describing it as waking up months or years later sounds more like disassociation. Yes? No?
 
Isolation can be something that creeps. It is not always an abrupt conscious change. But it's not dissociation. Withdrawing from social activity and other interactions. Doing less and less over time. Yes, you can find yourself one day, months ahead, wondering how it happened that you lost all those connections.
 
Hmm. I'm trying to wrap my head this. You really don't know you're doing it? I mean, I didn't think it was on purpose, but I thought you knew it. I'm so confused. I just don't understand how you don't know. You don't know that you haven't seen or called someone? Is it that time goes by and you don't realize how much time passes? I mean, I flip my calendar everyday at work, I know when i have to pay bills each month so I also know when i haven't spoken to someone. I'm so sorry if I'm upsetting anyone reading this, it's not my intention, I'm just really trying to understand. If some aspects of day to day life can be managed by going through the motions, how is that others can slip away without realizing how much time is passing? I mean, I guess you may not really know either, I'm just trying to grasp the concept at this point.
 
...and how does anyone know that anyone else's life is so much more promising?
 
how is that others can slip away without realizing how much time is passing?

Really? Ive never said "oh my goodness, its June already? Where jas the time gone?" I dont know a person that doesnt. Isolation is nothing like paying bills.
 
Ive never said "oh my goodness, its June already? Where jas the time gone?" I dont know a person that doesnt. Isolation is nothing like paying bills.

Correction, you've never said
 
There are all sorts of rationalizations when it is happening;

now is not a good time to call,
they don't want to hear from me,
wtf would they be interested in that?
not until after I've completed X
I'd rather de-fluff my naval or get to grips with nasal hair
but I can't afford to go
they couldn't give a flying feck about me anyway
 
Of course everyone's said "OMG it's June already" but this is the supporter section so I'm referencing contacting a loved one. No, months don't slip by before I contact the people I care about the most. I go crazy if days go by and I don't speak to them. That's the whole issue that supporters are struggling with. I could absolutely forget to pay a bill before I could forget to check in with someone I love. And if that someone is suicidal it's a million times harder to give them space...
 
Hmm. I'm trying to wrap my head this. You really don't know you're doing it? I mean, I didn't think it was on purpose, but I thought you knew it. I'm so confused. I just don't understand how you don't know. You don't know that you haven't seen or called someone? Is it that time goes by and you don't realize how much time passes? I mean, I flip my calendar everyday at work, I know when i have to pay bills each month so I also know when i haven't spoken to someone. I'm so sorry if I'm upsetting anyone reading this, it's not my intention, I'm just really trying to understand. If some aspects of day to day life can be managed by going through the motions, how is that others can slip away without realizing how much time is passing? I mean, I guess you may not really know either, I'm just trying to grasp the concept at this point.

I honestly laughed out loud when I read this. I do understand your frustration. I guess I can only answer for myself-

You don't know that you haven't seen or called someone?
I haven't historically tended to know I'm "isolating" but recently I've become more conscious of it. At this time, I see it happening and it isn't that I don't know I haven't called or seen someone. I think anxiously every day about returning a friend's letter, for example, and shipping promised items to another friend, returning several calls... all as days slip away and I get lost in the fretting. I keep thinking I'll just sit down and dedicate time to all my acquaintances for maybe an hour every other day or so... but I just feel exhausted. Relationships are dynamic and for me, sometimes people are quite draining even when I love them. I think about and love my friends, but I can barely bare to be sometimes, so I get scared about talking to them and coming off as dour as I feel. I don't want to subject them to my moods on one hand, so I avoid hanging out. I can't follow or put my energy into small talk or pointless drama, so I begin to avoid that alltogether... I get all brooding and sensitive and it's hard to be around anyone. I admit though sometimes things do just slip my mind... did I reply to that text? I've gone and deleted my sent mail, so now I don't know... it really goes on. Sometimes I've let contacts slip for a few days and I'm ashamed and that adds on to my knee-jerk reaction of shoving the stress away.

Is it that time goes by and you don't realize how much time passes?

Sometimes I really don't know how much time's going by. If the depression is really bad, then I'll lose track of days and even convince myself that no one could want to talk to me. I might loose my phone for days at a time, as well. This is often accompanied by shame as such I don't really want to have to account for myself to the people who care for me. I'd rather be able to manage not dissolving into a puddle of tears, fainting, throwing up, panicking, intrusive thoughts, flashbacks, or deceit when/ soon following basic questions like, "how are you?"; "how have you been?"; "what have you been up to?";"why haven't you answered my calls?"

If some aspects of day to day life can be managed by going through the motions, how is that others can slip away without realizing how much time is passing?
I guess some aspects of daily life are less complex than others. Paying a bill can be automated, relationships cannot be automated. Even if your bill-paying isn't automated you can see how the energy requirement might dramatically differ. Now imagine your energy reserve being taxed with some or all of the symptoms I mentioned above, in addition to all the rest of your life's daily stresses. Unfortunately some things, perhaps even the most important things, would drop in turn.

At least this is the case for me... in addition to this, the fact of the matter is that as someone with these challenges, I am actively healing. That takes time and energy and quiet. My emotions and needs don't run on a monthly schedule, although I might wish they did.
 
I'm former military. Not being in contact with the people I love most for weeks & months is the most natural thing in the world, to me. Separation does not equal distance.
 
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