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Relationship Knowing When To Let Go...

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Lucia

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I was introduced to an amazingly charismatic and charming man through mutual family members months ago. He told me that very night that he had PTSD being completely honest. If only then I knew the meaning to his words. I didn't. I had a very small idea of what PTSD, but how severe it could be I had no idea. I didn't think too much about it, I never thought that our relationship would only go farther than friendship. But his persistence constant charm and just ability to make me smile eventually won me over and we started dating.

I got a first whiff of PTSD when I saw him yell and curse at a young teenage girl who was skateboarding in the middle of the street. We got into a huge fight with yelling about what it right and yada yada yada and it ended in him in tears. I felt bad for him, and caring for him we got past it. There were more outburst past them a lot of time it ended in him getting a ride home, or even walking the 5 miles to his house. It went on like this for months.

After one major outburst that turned into him issuing many physical threats and verbally abusive things being said he took off into the street, enraged and drunk. I made him get in the car after following him for safety reasons when I saw him try to attack an innocent bystander on the street. The whole ride home he kept telling me to drive calling me colorful words the whole way. Yelling at me when I stopped behind cars and at stop lights that he didn't say I could stop. He screamed at me to take him to the airport and i just cried taking him home, hopefully his family would know what to do. He jumped out of the car when he got there and I drove home in an anxiety attack seeing his blood all over the car I didn't know what had happened. His friend text later that night saying that my bf needed me and he was bleeding and what happened. This was the real first taste I had. The next day i spend the day researching PTSD knowing he needed help.

After he contacted me the next day we agreed that we would start going to therapy. We went to one session. After that, he didn't need it anymore. He could do it by himself. Also I haven't yet mentioned that he doesn't take the medication prescribed to him, saying it makes him drowsy and explode worse later. Things went on this way for more weeks, him blowing up everyone once in awhile, then apologizing and my love and desire to help him, just taking him back. Problem was life would throw another obstacle. I became pregnant. He was so excited the whole time we were together he kept saying how he wanted to marry me and have children with me. He told his whole family, but our happily ever after was cut short and I miscarried. Part of him blamed it on me, the other part himself and his anger from stressing me out. That's where things turned for the worst.

He became violent now in his outbursts, grabbing me by the hair, the neck, holding me down and throwing things at me. All the while calling me names, telling me I'm the worst thing that ever happened to him, and how he was going to cheat on me. Then he'd say how he was going to kill himself. I prayed for my safety wanting to get away usually taking hours for him to leave me alone or alot of butt kissing and distracting to get him to calm down. The next day he'd apologize we'd talk about it and how we were going to fix things and be okay. We'd get help. He'd make me fall in love with him. I wanted to help him. I wanted to be with him. I loved his family and apart from the anger everything he is and what he stood for.

It went like this up and down for months. I became pregnant again. This time he changed. Completely for weeks he was the perfect man. Cooking cleaning catering and calm the whole while. We had disagreements for sure, but it was solved quickly with conversation. Minimum violence, no name calling and we were good. I could finally see the family we were supposed to be. The husband I had dreamed of having. And then as fast as the good came it faded. He started to get pissed off. Not understanding the hormones of a pregnant woman, the cravings. Getting mad when I was doing things wrong...He blew up. Driving the car around dangerously. Yelling at me threatening to take me to an abortion clinic. I took him to his house and he was blaming everything on me. That because of the food i wanted, didn't look good or wasnt what he was making and the fact I got quiet (pouting he calls it) I ruined the day. He told me to get out of the car. I wouldn't he told me if i started the car he'd smash my window. I told him not to threaten me and he said it's not a threat it's a promise. I tried to drive away he smashed my window. Then I saw blood. On my hands and legs covered in glass i drove bawling all the way home.

He called a few times, saying everything is my fault he's booked a flight tonight he's leaving. Going back to his hometown and "f me and f my baby." That is when I hung up.

Now this happened this afternoon. I haven't stopped crying, my visions of our happy little family we were just discussing last night out the window. The smiles we exchanged this morning in our bed, just memories. && I'm alone flecked with cuts from the glass. Scared. I want to call him, to try and fix it to help him. But my family and his tells me to stay away. Now it's my choice whether to keep that baby. How is that a choice? It's my baby. How can I turn my back on the man I love? He needs my help. Or am I just making life harder for him? Is letting go the best answer? I don't know who to talk to about PTSD no one I know really understand it. That is why I joined here.

Thanks if you read this. Sorry it's so long. I'm very emotional and lost.
 
Lucia,
I'm sorry with what you are going through. If you read the posts by different supporters and sufferers of PTSD, you will find them saying PTSD is not an excuse for bad behavior, and it shouldn't be. Bad behavior should not be tolerated especially when physical abuse is involved.
I know you love him and it is difficult to walk away when you have envisioned spending the rest of your life with him. Unfortunately, you and your love isn't enough to help him at this time especially with the gravity of his behavior. He needs to seek treatment and deal with his issues.
Please take care of your self and your baby. Continue reading and hopefully you'll find the support you need in this forum.
 
I've seen a lot of bad PTSD behavior posted here on the forum, but this one takes the cake.

Err, I think I should back off and say that he may have PTSD, but the violence, the threats...that's NOT part of the diagnosis. It's abusive behavior at its worst.

Get away from this man ASAP. If you truly care about your child, you won't hesitate to do what's best for him/her, and honestly, staying with a violent, untreated person such as this WILL do your child harm.

Please get the law on your side. He is a danger to himself and to others, and as such can be locked up because of it. I have NEVER suggested getting someone locked up because I've been sectioned against my will because of self harm (and hated it), but I believe that it's to the point that hospitalization may be his only hope.

Again, I want to stress that the violence is NOT a part of PTSD. He has the power to control himself but he refuses to do it.

I wish you the best.
 
Totally agree with scaredoflonely. Violence is not part of PTSD. It doesn't make you hurt anyone. I am so sorry you have had this experience. Please take care of number one - you.
 
staying with a violent, untreated person such as this WILL do your child harm.

I'm not sure I completely agree that PTSD does not make you violent. I think PTSD can make a person with the pre-existing inclination for violence more violent- which is sort of what they're saying anyway. But while a person with the inclination for violence may not become violent on their own, the PTSD can be the straw that breaks the camel's back, it all comes back to the fight or flight instinct, aggression and anxiety. I do however completely agree in counseling you to stay away from a violent person refusing treatment. That shows he's unwilling to change and even without the PTSD being a factor, refusing to change toxic behavior is dangerous.
 
our happily ever after was cut short and I miscarried. Part of him blamed it on me, the other part himself and his anger from stressing me out. That's where things turned for the worst.

He became violent now in his outbursts, grabbing me by the hair, the neck, holding me down and throwing things at me. All the while calling me names, telling me I'm the worst thing that ever happened to him, and how he was going to cheat on me. Then he'd say how he was going to kill himself. I prayed for my safety wanting to get away usually taking hours for him to leave me alone or alot of butt kissing and distracting to get him to calm down. The next day he'd apologize we'd talk about it and how we were going to fix things and be okay. We'd get help. He'd make me fall in love with him. I wanted to help him. I wanted to be with him. I loved his family and apart from the anger everything he is and what he stood for.

It went like this up and down for months. I became pregnant again.
You've seen the pattern. This is how it will always be - unless he goes for therapy FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS!! By your own admission, and his, you may have lost one baby due to the stress (violence, assaulting you, sending your stress levels off the charts, AND sending the baby's stress levels off the charts).

How can you turn your back on the man you love??? By choosing NOT to turn your back on the child you are carrying.

I'm sorry to be blunt, but you have your own serious problems. You need therapy. You will probably NOT stay away from him, and together you will put the child through hell. Stop blaming HIM - you are an equal participant in this awful circus. For as long as you get members on this forum to tell you what an awful person HE is, you will not start taking responsibility for your own issues that keep you in this horrible dynamic.
 
I know that I have my own issues and I do want to protect my baby. That is my first priority. So you're saying that I have a problem. So I should leave him, and know that no one will help him only chop it up as him being crazy and violent without help. I know he isn't a monster. I know he needs help this is why I am here. We both need help.
 
I know he needs help this is why I am here. We both need help.


Lucia, what we're trying to tell you is that if he doesn't want help, NO ONE can give it to him. So long as he is refusing help or treatment, he will not change and that does put you and your child at risk. You can't make anyone take advice or help they don't want. You can hope and pray but at the end of the day it is their decision alone, no matter what support they're given. You cannot be responsible for him. You must be responsible for yourself and your child, not just in the mental well being scheme of things but also in the legal sense. If that child gets hurt, the authorities will question why you put your child in a situation that you knew before hand was unsafe and unstable. They won't question why you didn't support a violent man. You have to look at the reality of the situation.
 
So if he know he needs help and is willing to get it. And I still stupid to stand by his side? Or I just tell him to do it himself that I can't risk it no more?
 
Honestly I think you should seek a little bit of distance when he first gets treatment, make it clear that you will not stick around if he does not take care of this. This sets up a boundary for safety's sake. You are asserting yourself and basically saying you will not allow your family to be exposed to violence, this should be non-negotiable for EVERYONE no matter their partners diagnosis. As he gets treatment and proves this relationship is important enough to him for him to work on himself, then you can decide if you want to be as close as before. I know its hard, especially when love is in the picture. I'm just trying to help you gain a little perspective. Please understand none of us are attacking you, the advice we're giving is to protect you. We may not know you very well but we don't want to see you or your child get hurt.
 
no one will help him
You can't help him. Read every single on this post on this forum, and then tell me how long therapy takes to really effect a change. Months? Years? A lifetime? There is no shortcut, and no quick solutions. Besides, PTSD is not the reason for his violence. It may make him more volatile, definitely, but there is another problem in addition to the PTSD. If he is not even in therapy at the moment, the chances of any change, apart from very short lived periods of model behaviour are very slim indeed. And after every short period of model behaviour you can bet your bottom dollar on a very ugly explosion taking place.

I am concerned about your baby.

This relationship is already following a classic pattern: Good start, slow slide into ugliness, violence interspersed with tears and promises, then a short honeymoon period, more violence, more promises, worse violence .... and on and on. Been there, done that, got the t-shirt. And it only gets worse. Until somebody (you) breaks the cycle by getting out, or someone gets really hurt.

I'm concerned about the baby.
 
Gosh this is awful to read.

I really hope you listen to what has been said here. Many who are answering not only have PTSD themselves but have also experienced abusive relationships. As someone who has had both, hanging around and hoping the person will change or believing promises is a very big mistake and your decisions don't just affect you.

Many here develop PTSD from being the child in dynamics such as this.

If you want to be there for him then help him by demanding better behaviour, progress and treatment. If I was in this situation my child would not be anywhere near him until he had 2 years of treatment behind him and had a long period of time without any abusive behaviour (in truth because of my own stuff I would not even do that and would get as far away as I could). Taking into account what law dictates of course.

Words mean nothing. Expect proof and action as that is the only way to even have a chance for you and your child to be safe in a relationship with him. Abusive relationships run in cycles in the way that Pencil and others have described.

Be very careful as these relationships very quickly erode ones self esteem and when that happens it can be like drowning in quick sand.
 
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