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Considering Ending My Relationship With My Parents?

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ZeroPTSD

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I know this is not a very Christmas-y topic here but basically I am strongly considering ending my relationship with my Parents, for too many reasons to describe in a simple post, but here is a first go at it.

Family Structure:
1 Older Brother (Estranged Roid-Rager) - A narcissistic steroid using liar, was abusive both emotionally & physically when I was young & has become emotionally abusive to my Mother. When I tried to protect her from his displaced rage, it ended our "relationship." He is a trained killer & ever since he reenlisted because he "didn't want to work for the man" the family has favored him simply because he has put himself in harms way on purpose to get attention. Meanwhile I have always played the "good son" being there for everyone else while they take me completely for granted...because I am always there, I am always the rock, the given. I picked up the pieces when he left the family for military school, because his anger was out of control, this also contributed to my parents divorce. So I got lost in plain site & never get a fair shake. Instead I suffer with PSTD while everyone else is in freaking denial & too busy to give a crap what is happening to me because they have their head up their a*ses with their petty power jobs.

1 Mother (Grandma Slumlord) - Twice Divorced, now dating an idiot schmuck who thinks he is God's gift to men, the oboe, classical music, in reality he is a convicted felon ego driven douche-bag. My Mom is very vein buys loads of superficial crap, obsesses over a clean house and making everything look perfect. Her perfectionism has tainted my mind making me obsess over even the smallest details of my life, feeding various aspects of my illness. I even found out that she had breast implants done a few years ago when I brought up the subject of silicone poisoning from implants. "well I haven't had any problems...I was SOOO shocked. She has a giant house, 2 ridiculous SUVs that she does not need, and spends her time working herself to death instead of spending time with or helping her family.

Let Your Family Burn...How Motherly
We lived in her condo for 3 years and were just paying the note, still barely surviving because of the cost of living on that part of the east coast of the US was so freaking expensive especially for a new family starting out, straight out of college. My wife and I had two children during that time who my mother has grown to love. When were living in my Mom's condo she refused to fix anything, we had the main electrical box go up in flames literally started spitting smoke, sparks, we had to shut the power off because the wiring was 30 years old. My mom did not believe us. We showed her and she played it like nothing was wrong. She brought in a shady contractor, tried to pay him under the table to basically tell us that nothing was wrong, the fuses just needed replaced. We brought in an independent contractor who told us that the building was not up to code, what the shady contractor had done was illegal, the house could have burned down any day in the past four months. We confronted my Mom with this and at that point shelled the cash to do the minimum amount of work possible. She makes between 100-250K a year WTF? How Motherly.

Mom Accused Us of Starving Our Daughter
Oh yeah my Mother also accused us of starving our first child due to the fact that she was naturally skinny, which is because my wife is a very tiny Asian woman. The American doctors charts were all from bottle-fed white babies in the 1970s. My wife is Japanese and only breast fed our daughter. When my Mother confronted me with this accusation, and a bunch of bad information from poorly sourced websites, I was so enraged I told her that if she truly believed that crap she could call child services and I handed her the phone, left the house.

Wrongfully Laid Off, Moved To The West Coast
So after I got fired wrongfully (because I was actually doing my job right) from my ex-shady employer we decided we had had enough with everything there and we moved to the West Coast 3 months ago. We ended up being the victims of a moving scam, and the moving company took us for $8,000 which we did not even have. Both of my parents just acted like nothing was happening. When I told my mom we were moving she just said "Well I'm not going to like that" She did not even lift a finger to give us a good reference for a mover, and she knows tons of them cause she works in real estate.

Different People, Realization No Normal Childhood
My parents & I are very different people and that is fine. This consideration I am making is because the relationships I have with them are superficial and frankly just shams. I always used to tell my shrinks when they asked about my past that I had a "normal childhood" up to the age of Fifteen ([DLMURL]http://ptsdforum.org/showthread.php?t=12695[/DLMURL]) up until two weeks ago, when my new shrink asked me two question simple questions & my entire construct / world came crashing down on me. No I did not have a normal childhood, and many of the factors in it made me more likely to develop PTSD.

1 Father (Grandpa Scrooge) & 1 Stepmother (Functioning Alcoholic)
My Dad has always been emotionally unavailable & always obsessed with money. Cash drives his every decision, every emotion & every action. Though he makes the better part of 300K a year he lives his life as if he is dirt poor hoarding his money for what? Every relationship, every decision is haggled as if it were a business deal. My brother picked up on this early, it contributed to his anger & stopped talking to my Dad ten years ago. When I called my Dad to tell him about the Moving Scam...he said "Well I don't know anything about that"

Scenario...you kid calls you because he has been mugged and left in the street bleeding. Do you just say "I don't know anything about that" and hang up the phone to free yourself of any responsibility? No you help them, you help them no matter what, because you love them, because it is the right thing to do. No matter what!

The Setup (Feline Hostage Taking)
When we made the decision to leave for the West Coast, I was confronted with the worst decision I ever had to make. We had 3 cats but all of the apartments were 2 animals only. I could not ask my wife to give up her cat while I kept my two. The two male cats have fought and sprayed the house badly, with two little kids one of them was going to have to find a new home. My siamese cat seemed to like my Dad & Stepmom because he is a fixer, he finds broken people and loves them no matter what...because he is a really good cat. Also he is purebreed and worth $$$. I asked my Mom but she already has a male Siamese cat so that never would have worked. That left only my Dad & Stepmom...of course I asked all of my friends & most of them already had too many animals. When I asked my Dad to take the cat (who I consider to be my family member) he simply said "Well I don't like the idea." He has a giant house, more money then he can spend, has no friends, but did not want to help. The answer was no.

Found A Home, My Parents Lie to Me & Catnap my Cat
I found a home for my Cat Mr.S and had to make the really hard decision to place him in the home for good because those were the only acceptable terms for the new owner which I respected. I cried for two nights under high pressure because of the moving deadline (we were getting on a plane) & having to give up my cat. But the decision was made by me, and I gave the new owner my word that he was hers. After the cat had be transported, given to the new owner, my parents called her behind my back and said they wanted him back, and offered her a new kitten. They did not ask me, they did not call me until two days after the fact, it was already done. They took the cat without my consent, after they refused to take him for a few reasons...because if they did not, they knew deep down in their hearts that they would probably never hear from me again, for failure to support me & my family (wife & kids) in what was already a very bad situation for us all around. They also did it so that I would have to have a reason to talk to them again so as to get him back when I have a house where I can have 3 cats. Call it emotional blackmail, call it catnapping, I just call it wrong but that is pretty much just par for the course with my parents.

Goodbye, I Know Someday You Will Make Lots of $$$
When I went to leave for the West Coast my Dad only said two things to me "Well I wish we had gotten in one more game of racquetball" & then "I know someday that you will make a lot of money, just don't fight the whole world doing it" You know, I don't even know what the hell he meant by that. It does not matter I guess he will never understand that he is a major part of why I left that coast, a long with the superficial people, crappy rat race jobs, traffic, crappy quality of life, lack of culture & overall happiness. He will never understand the reasons I left because he is not capable, he is happy in that muck. You don't choose Portland to go make bricks of gold & untold millions. You go because you don't want your life to completely suck, because you need nature, art, music, beauty, food, diversity and want to raise your children somewhere...where they will not grow up to be your parents.

I Just Can't Live a Superficial Life Anymore
Basically the way my parents are is that they do the absolute bare-minimum they have to do in order to be in my life, there is no heart no love left, no real support. They just want photos of the grandkids to put on the corner of their offices so that they LOOK like they have a real family when clients or colleagues walk in. What they really want is a good elevator speech. I am tired of pretending, being take for granted, lied to, manipulated, not really being supported, tired of living a superficial life, being an emotional hostage in my own "family" and tired of not really having parents anyway. If somebody told me choose between having them and not. It would be NOT.

Should I Cut the Cord?
As you will probably infer from the information in this post, my parents are basically FUBAR. I have never felt so free being 3000 miles from them and knowing that they will play much less of a role in my life, and my children's (they really did not respect our decisions as parents did whatever they wanted regardless of instructions we gave them).

The only question now is should I just cut the cord completely? Can I?
 
Hi Zero,

RE: "The only question now is should I just cut the cord completely? Can I?"

I'm assuming these are rhetorical questions since only you can make that decision/determination, but I can tell you my experience.

I cut my family off completely (with the exception of one brother) 15 years ago. I am now in the process of attempting some sort of reconciliation/closure before my parents pass away (my mother's health is failing). Prior to the complete severing I told them I wanted 6 months of no contact, which they respected but, with the continued anxiety of trying to deal with impending contact, I decided to completely sever our relationship. Looking back, I wish I could have just set a boundary of 2 years or 5 years (of no contact) or something, but I was unable to have that hanging over my head and get on with things.

I'm at the point in my healing that I don't have a lot of blame, anger and resentment toward them anymore - at least not the deep, wrenching pain/grief/rage. For me, I don't know if I could have healed to this degree and maintained contact - getting down to, and expressing/processing, all those experiences & emotions might've been too scary if they were still actively in my life at that time. So..I made the decision I had to make so that I could do the work I had to do (and yes, there was probably some element of revenge/punishment in my decision, as well), but I wish it could've been a different decision. Make sense?

Severing all ties with family is a big step, and the breach can't necessarily be repaired if one changes their mind, later. I know some people who severed all ties and never looked back, with no regrets (from what they say...who knows what goes on inside of people).

So, bottom line, my suggestion would be to think long and hard about this decision. Since they're 3,000 miles away, it's not like they're in your face, anyway, right? You've got some time...

Good luck with your decision.

-Dylan
 
You probably won't like my response, but here it is.....

Older brother problem.....You said it well with this statement...".Meanwhile I have always played the "good son" being there for everyone else while they take me completely for granted...because I am always there, I am always the rock, the given. I picked up the pieces when he left the family for military school."

IMHO...No one can use us, or take us for granted, unless we allow them too. You have allowed it, so it continues....

Mother issue.....What your mother does with her money, her body and whom she dates, is her decision. You sound very jealous of the fact that she has money to do what she wants.

The burn issue.....As long as she owned the place, she is responsible for the upkeep. You should have called the health board, and she would have had to have it fixed, and up to code....That's the law....

Starving your daughter... I too might have been concerned, she probably didn't handle the situation very well......

Moving...Why didn't you just ask her up front before you moved if she knew of a reputable company??? You have no right to blame her for what happened to you, for the decision that YOU made....

Your father...You weren't mugged on the street, you used a lousy moving company, and now you are expecting your father to bail you out. He isn't obligated to do this. If he wanted to, well then ok, but apparently he doesn't feel he needs to.....I don't care how much money he makes, it's still HIS money......

Your cats...Well again, it's your problem to deal with...It's your cat...It's your responsibility to find it a home. *Expecting* your parents to take it, is just wrong.......Now that they did, you call them *cat nappers*????

Goodbye....Your father sounds as though he may be emotionally unable to connect with you, possibly he can't connect with anyone...But I think he wishes you well in finding a good job, and knows the value of working hard to earn your own income, and taking responsibility for yourself...I think he knows that working hard and making it builds character, and makes you more appreciative of what you have.....

Cutting the cord will be your decision, and yours alone...No one can tell you what you should or shouldn't do.....Just remember one thing...Sometimes the decisions we make in haste, and in anger, can come back and haunt us later on.......
 
postpone

I had your same question 20 years ago. I integrated and got healed from horrid age 4 sexual abuse by my father. I got healed from the pain. I had room for doubt though whether the sociopathic, ritualistic, sadistic behavior of my father (and mother) had really occurred. I did not have contact with my family for several years after I was healed.

It was recommended to me in AA and by therapists that I 'reach out to them' and try to reconcile and heal with my family. I cannot tell you of the horrors that my parents put upon me again, although I was then 30. They continued in the same psychotic sociopathic rituals with me and it is only by a miracle that I am even alive.

My family wasn't dysfunctional. To use Dr. Phil's description: they were resident evil. I will never have anything to do with my parents. I maintain contact with a few other family members who aren't dangerous to me.

I wish I had 'postponed' the question of whether or not I should have anything at all to do with my family until I had absolutely no doubt.
I didn't have the proper perspective of my parents at that time.

The fact that you are expressing doubt as to whether or not to sever the relationship indicates that you still gaining certainty of the truth of your situation. I hope you err on the side of what is the safest and best option for you at this time.

seaworthy
 
Hey seaworthy,

I really appreciate the advise and I did take it, I did not cut all connections rather I just distanced myself for a little while and then kind of slowly faced back a bit. I think it was the better decision, but I still kind of wonder if all of the anger I have is still just beneath the surface. I guess I just limit myself from interactions so I never get to a point of losing control.

Thanks.

Zero PTSD
 
Zero PTSD. It seems there are a few of us in your situation. I have found distancing myself the best outcome for me as then I don't have to deal with the turmoil but don't feel totally disowned. My family may not like it but they are finally 'getting it' and contact is extremely minimal. I do what I think is right within my moral code without compromising opening the door any more.

One therapist thinks confrontation is the solution for my healing but I don't as all it will do is upset me again and fall on deaf ears. If they can't see the problem how will they ever hear it? My GP thinks sometimes you can just 'let things be' in order to do right by yourself and I am finding that I agree with him but there are times I still struggle with what to do like birthdays, Mother's & Father's day and like my brother's wife just having a baby. I try to find a balance so the programmed guilt doesn't raise its ugly head but also not beat myself by going against "treating people how I would like to be treated" so I still try and show common decency.

Another point....if my family cared enough the current distancing should be sending out warning signals to them but there is no reaction so I have come to the conclusion that cutting the ties is only something that would change things in my eyes only and just stir up a hornet's nest. Best let sleeping dogs lie IMHO.
 
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