If course it is useless to argue or contradict someone that has established their opinions on their recourses of their information. I must ask you to read the actual stats of the world health org., the FBI, and so many other statistic and factual non-bias organizations world wide. They all would prove your information of Australia's violence vs gun ownership incorrect and a farce. That is just another source of the leftist liberals to make up and justify their agendas with reports or stats that are construed by members of their like beliefs. Several facts I can confirm as True is, A entire generation and I were born and raised in a environment or house hold with guns of all sorts. The Grand difference is the major factor of my generation and today, the lack of discipline, respect of Authority and parents who will take the time and effort to teach children. In my home no guns were locked up, hidden or lied about to us kids. When I was old enough, 4-5 years old, being a child I became curious about my dads "real" guns and compared to the toy guns all kids and I played with, you know cowboys and Indians, imitating our HEROS such as Roy Rogers, Gene Autry and all the other role models that were the icons of law biding, defenders of justice that would always bring the bad guys to be judged and punished in accordance to the law. Never hurting or abusing innocent bystanders, never with ruthless, brutal, violence of vivid random slaughter of the innocent to get to wipe out the supposed bad guy. My father begin teaching me and taking me shooting, that removed my curiosity of real guns and because I had such respect and discipline to honor the authority of my father, no touching, handling of guns was ever done without the permission and presence of my father, never. If ever I thought about or considered getting my hands on the real guns, I would wait till my father was home and ask if I could hold his guns. He would kindly take me to the gun I wanted and always, always demand I follow the 3 steps so essential to firearm safety, unload, never point the gun at anything I didn't intend to shoot, treat the gun if it was always loaded. Never was I allowed to "play" with any firearm, Never. I begin shooting and hunting with my father at the age of 7 and not once was there any so called accident or was anyone ever injured with a gun in my family or anyone that was around us. As it was the same in all other households with guns and children. A statistic no one can accept today is the fact there were more guns in the home during my generation than there is today, but the rate of violence from firearms is over 500% greater now than it was from 1970 to the present. What changed? Fact, heads of house holds today purchase a gun, inspired by some yahoo at the gun store that has no knowledge of what weapon is best for the purchaser. The new gun owner has no knowledge of the responsibly of gun ownership, safety and most important proper use. The perfect recipe for disaster, whose fault is it when a stupid senseless accident happens, a child gets ahold of the gun and shoots another? The gun? Only a tool? No, a ignorant dumbass that bought it and never had the brains, motivation or care to be trained to use what they now owned. Today our children are hardened by the vivid, realistic, and graphic slaughter of such life like video games that actually allows them to actually have the sensation of blowing off heads, arms, etc. with all the blood and gore of reality. It just increases their Score to kill innocent bystanders as they go after the villain, not only seeing the bodily dismemberment of their shooting results but the reality of the screams and cursing of the agony they have inflicted. Team that with the Bull Shit of almost every big hit movie from Hollywood that is only a "hit" at the box office if it depicts more and more gore, graphic, massacre, blood and innards splashed all over the screen. Watching as the so called "hero" blasts his or her way through a hail of bullets, bombs and tanks from a entire army or group that is labeled as the "bad guys". Always out number, usually 100 to 1, the hero always over comes these odds with his super skills and abilities, only to get slightly wounded in the less immobilizing area always in the arm, leg, etc., and continues to kill the bad guys regardless. Finally, with all the hundreds of evil foes obliterated by this single person, he comes face to face with the "main enemy" and ruthlessly, savagely, and gore abound slaughters them. All of everything so depicted and ingrained in the developing brains of the young by Hollywood is absolute, completer bull shit and not one spec of actual reality, just false sensationalism to desensitize the viewer, now possibly living in that fantasy realm he just witnessed. Of course in the process removing all aspects of the law of justice,or any ethical process of our legal system that is essential to instill in these children to be decent people. The list of activities and exposure is long and evident in direct rise of violence directly proportioned to the lack of discipline, respect and obedience of authority. (law enforcement and parental). If you want the references of the numerous, I'll be happy to give them.