Getting Too Near...

[Red Feather]

Yes, that is the take of the therapist, and I will try to go with that if I can.

 

[Red Feather]

I guess it is good to see that being triggered is not the same as being in danger, but sometimes it is really hard to see things that way.

 

[The Albatross]

Try to separate a threat from something uncomfortable. There is a difference. Boundaries and being able to state them is the way to go gal.

 

[The Albatross]

Hmmm. Hard. Yup. But that does not mean you can not learn to stand on your own two feet in a supervised environment. Set the boundary and get some growing pains instead of triggers.

 

[The Albatross]

It is a preconceived notion... much like what we endure with PTSD, that schizophrenics (who can be managed) are unsafe. Interesting bias afoot here Solara.

 

[Red Feather]

Yeah, I understand this Alba...

It feels like I am just acting crazy. I think the worse part is that I am so embarrassed about the way I am reacting, and it makes it even harder for me to talk about it or set any boundaries.

 

[Red Feather]

Thanks Alba.

 

[The Albatross]

If you're set off, you're set off. No need for embarrassment, but you do need to talk about and set boundaries. You are part of the group, so are they, boundary setting is obligatory... they will not learn unless you do so.

 

[The Albatross]

Nadia, group dynamics are tough for us. But they are necessary. It is how we learn how to deal and cope.

 

[fly away home]

I also work with people who have these diagnosis. I get triggered when their behavior becomes violent or irrational.

To be honest I think you have done exceptionally well at stating and reinforcing your boundaries. Better than I do that's for sure. I think there may be some communication issues with the staff regarding your personal condition, where you are safe and the use of the office etc. I see this as the main problem. Not you.

Good luck with sorting this out. You are already standing up for yourself.

 

[Justmehere]

I don't think it is the schizophrenia that makes them safe or unsafe. It is a factor. It can be intense, just like PTSD. And when it gets unsafe, it is harder because you are up against thought processes that are not always connected to reality. Someone who is fighting their own mental illness and actively violating boundaries is not as able to keep themselves and others safe as someone who is not.

I do hope the staff might consider being as sensitive to your PTSD triggers as they are to the other's issues with learning how to respect basic boundaries.

until I almost burst and said "It's not good for me that you are so close to me! Do I have to change places on the bus? And he said, no you should stay and moved his hand and more or less kept it that way.

Great boundary! I feel like I should take lessons from you on setting boundaries. Seriously. Well said! Keep at it!

 

[Red Feather]

I see this as the main problem. Not you.

Yes, this bothers me a lot. Why didn't they tell the Intern? The intern might have even sent Ronald in the second time. She would consider it his right to be able to be in there if he wanted to. I told her that i got triggered and wasn't well, but she obviously didn't know what that meant. And if I am already that far, I can barely speak.

Someone who is fighting their own mental illness and actively violating boundaries is not as able to keep themselves and others safe as someone who is not.

I guess he jusst forgets. And it doesn't really seem like he is fighting to make himself stop either. The therapist said that I might have to be loud for him... but being loud and yelling triggers me as well.

Thanks again.