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anthony
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Ok. You took her to a store with guns and she was suffering mental illness for her entire life. You did this six weeks prior to her death. You purchased the shotgun the next day. You said she purchased one too, without you knowing. When? Did she have this for six weeks or did she buy this the day she decided to die?What do I feel guilty about? On my birthday six weeks before her death, I took her into a sporting goods store and looked at a shotgun I needed.
So if you took her into a car dealership to look at cars, purchased on the next day, then she went and purchased one and decided to drive it off a bridge, is that your fault?And that's how she killed herself, she went into THE EXACT SAME STORE AND BOUGHT THE EXACT SAME GUN. I might as well have shot her myself.
Ok. So you experienced a short amount of what she suffered daily, and you wanted to kill yourself and her!Further, having lived with her mental illness for her entire life and raised her with exquisite love and care, and having been through four of her psychiatric hospitalizations, the first of which I'm surprised to have survived since I was in that hospital with her night and day, I was having a breakdown and didn't know it. I actually thought about finding a drug to kill us both and DID find it but at that time I realized I could NEVER harm her in any way, let alone figure out how to give myself intravenous drug sufficient to kill me so I wouldn't wake up with a dead daughter.
If she was suffering this much, do you think she did the right thing or wrong thing?
Do you feel relief that she is gone and that you no longer have to look after her under such stressful terms?
Sure, but not exactly conclusive. How much random stuff did she watch on Youtube? Hell, I go in some weird directions on Youtube, because it gives me random stuff.THis is how sick I had become. So the day she went out to go "shopping" at "Target' (perfect isn't it?) I totally FORGOT that I had seen a video she watched on You Tube on how to load a shotgun. I had spyware on her computer, it sent a thousand links to my laptop every few hours, one of the links I landed on was that video. So apparently GOD or whatever it was gave me a heads up but I didn't get it.
Buying a gun requires certain things to happen though, doesn't it? Did you believe she could get through those checks? Did you even consider that?
You had spyware on her computer to monitor her, to try and keep her away from the bad stuff this world has. She said she was going shopping at Target, and if this was normal for her to do, then why would you think she was going to buy a gun and kill herself? Did she have to lie in order to buy the gun, having a history of psychiatric illness and incarceration, I'm sure that usually means you can't buy a gun!!!
You're beating yourself up because she made a decision and carried it out. That is not exclusive to mothers. You loved her, but also whether you know it or not, you had hit the same point that most people hit around seriously mentally unhealthy people, in that you need to get away and distance yourself. Friends leave friends all the time for this, and one feels abandoned and one feels relief and guilt. Go figure!AT first I was shocked and dismayed and just plain SICK AND TIRED of worrying and keeping her safe.
Women grow our children, you have a bond that nobody who hasn't grown a child within them can ever understand. Beyond that connection though, we're all pretty much on similar grounds. You did your role as a parent and tried your absolute best to protect her, love her, raise her the best you could, to help her grow, to support her mentally declined state. What else do you believe you could have done?My hosue was a lock down psych ward, she couldn't get a butter knife from me, the stress was KILLING ME and that day I had lots to do and was exhausted so I just decided it was curiosity because she knw I was going to take that seminar. That day she asked for my credit card to go buy an electric blanket because hers had stopped working and I know I checked becasuse I didn't believe her any more, she was dangerously sick, dangerous to herself. But it wasn't working and I gve her the car keys and let her go. I never saw her again.
THAT'S WHY I FEEL GUILTY.
Don't go hindsight, that is nonsense. You wrote above your situation, as you can best recollect, what happened and your feelings, the situation as it evolved. She has a reason to go to Target. She lied to you. She had a reason to kill herself. She lied to you. She likely had to lie to the attendant selling the gun too / they did not do their job correctly with checks and balances.
She was mentally unhealthy. You wanted to die after helping her, let alone that she wanted to die to stop her pain. I know that part, because I have been there. I still have zero issue with dying, as it will relieve my mental pain, even to this day. Hers was obviously so vast that she felt no other option.
I am going to assume at some point, you also feel relieved. That too brings guilt. You think, who feels relieved that their child is dead? Well... anyone who has suffered a lot trying to raise and protect a child with mental illness. There are a lot of parents who feel guilt because they believe they failed their child, yet relief that their child took away their suffering by taking their own life. None of that makes sense, yet it also makes perfect sense.
Nobody can tell you what to feel. That is all up to you. But what is torturing yourself accomplishing? If you are picking up where looking after your daughter finished, then you may as well succumb to suicide too. Your daughter, from the sounds of what you have written, according to me, took away her pain and yours. I doubt she wanted you to continue to suffer. I could be wrong, but when I was in the process of killing myself, I wanted to end my pain and I wanted others around me to stop suffering because of me. Now that is stupid, obviously, because what I didn't think about at that time, was that my death also causes a consequence to those around me who love me.
Here is what I missed. Those people all had a choice to be around me, to love me, to support me. I would have caused them all pain and possibly guilt that you feel. The self-blame game. I know that now, but then, I could only see death as ending pain. Your daughter likely felt similar, you have felt similar from what you have written.
You're a mum... your child protected you by taking her own life. None of that makes sense to a parent, which I too am one. Here's the thing... our kids growup and they make decisions. Those decisions have consequences for themselves. They made the choice, they live with the consequence. You can't take on their actions as your own. Every adult parent would be a stupid mess if we all did that. Our kids make their own choices. Yours was suffering in pain, you endured a small fraction of that and wanted to die... maybe, she is no in peace and hoping you too be in peace with her decision.