Dear Thinkingman, I apologize because I haven't read all the posts, but what you were saying, and Sailorgal did as regards V. Frankl. Well, I figure while suffering goes on now, in the present, I have a responsibilty to try to alleviate it (or I should try to), because I know how some of it feels and is. Much of my suffering is past, but what for those in it right now.
Even if only as regards the tiniest corner of the world, or within my own house or family.
I read something nice today, it was (partly) paraphrasing Thomas Merton, that we all have ineterior pain we must deal with, and issues to reconcile, for community peace to be possible. That we see glimpses of ourselves in those around us, just as we see them. But (and) that Christmas is when the fragile meet the compassionate. I think that is so beautiful.
Maybe that is what receive, or have received now (if we are very lucky), or that we needed, and that what we know from our experiences we must give.
Best wishes, :hug:.