its a mess, if its a war you would be able to fire on anyone firing at you, no problem there, if its a peacekeeping role then you cant do shit, if its an occupation then you can only deal with organised uniformed groups if its a cooperative assistance force your tied up liasing with locals,
if its a big mess where everybody is trying to kill everybody else and all you can do is try to keep a lid on it, to stop it boiling over what do you do, they have no rules of engagement or tribunals or laws about killing, they certainly dont have to read a poxy card or wait for more than one round to come in before firing, its not a war anymore its not a defined operation, its a case of doing the best with a big mess, you cant use military tactics in cities without killing people, the press dont like that, you cant act against the local bad boys as that gets you in more trouble, between the press , people gaggling to cry foul and tie the hands of people on the ground, and idiots in charge, its going to take time, there is no new nation born without struggle, the reasons for going in were bullshine, the way the occupation was handled in the early days led to a lot of problems later, now have to deal with the mess, best option is build stability and internal governance, get the place reasonably self regulating, build up local forces and resources and leave, but only at a point in time when the iraqis are capable of managing, that still leaves others on the ground in a mess, their not in a war their not in a peacekeeping role and their being screwed from all sides, is there an answer to the problem? pull out and the place will be overrun with anarchy in 48 hours and all these bleeding hearts who complain of it all being attributable to soldiers on the ground will be astonished to see mass open inter nicene warfare and extermination instead of the attrition which is happening now, for the moment the only thing to do is stay and make the best of it, do the best you can do in a bad situation,
stay and have casualties and disruption,or go and have mass exterminations and a never ending civil war.
if its a big mess where everybody is trying to kill everybody else and all you can do is try to keep a lid on it, to stop it boiling over what do you do, they have no rules of engagement or tribunals or laws about killing, they certainly dont have to read a poxy card or wait for more than one round to come in before firing, its not a war anymore its not a defined operation, its a case of doing the best with a big mess, you cant use military tactics in cities without killing people, the press dont like that, you cant act against the local bad boys as that gets you in more trouble, between the press , people gaggling to cry foul and tie the hands of people on the ground, and idiots in charge, its going to take time, there is no new nation born without struggle, the reasons for going in were bullshine, the way the occupation was handled in the early days led to a lot of problems later, now have to deal with the mess, best option is build stability and internal governance, get the place reasonably self regulating, build up local forces and resources and leave, but only at a point in time when the iraqis are capable of managing, that still leaves others on the ground in a mess, their not in a war their not in a peacekeeping role and their being screwed from all sides, is there an answer to the problem? pull out and the place will be overrun with anarchy in 48 hours and all these bleeding hearts who complain of it all being attributable to soldiers on the ground will be astonished to see mass open inter nicene warfare and extermination instead of the attrition which is happening now, for the moment the only thing to do is stay and make the best of it, do the best you can do in a bad situation,
stay and have casualties and disruption,or go and have mass exterminations and a never ending civil war.
