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The minimum wage here sucks.

But its minimum wage. Its supposed to be low. You gain jobs that pay more. I am not saying that is easy or even doable for all but they are out there. I just got a job that is the exact clone of the job I just lost for $2 more an hour. Got my 1st paycheck yesterday and did a rough draft budget yesterday and its way more of a difference then I orginally thought. Most min wage jobs are for 16 yr olds anyway. How much do we really want tennagers paid? Adults? Get a job that pays more. They are out there. Rural? Work from home. Theres even more of those oppuruntities today.

Ive also always worked full time and have always had group insurence.

Now pay that isnt min wage? That should be raised...job depending of course. And/or the price of living a bit more balanced in the super unbalanced States (like Florida).

These "poor" are screaming "poor them" because they don't want to work, believe they can sit around sucking money from tax payers and do nothing. Now the axe is coming down, the poor are screaming. Not poor due to disability, but just lazy.

Where is the super like button where I need one?

In Florida, they do make you fill out, I believe 5 jobs a week, that you "applied" for but I put that in quotes because they don't check. So its easy to go through the paper and find jobs that sound good and put those on there.

They now call it "reemployment assistance", for that reason I think, and it seems you have to now apply to the employment site that I could never get signed up for. But it seems Florida is doing more to prevent this unemployment and sit on your ass collecting tax payer money thing. There is a timeframe on it as well. Not a forever thing.

But the on disabilty when you dont need it is shit I see a lot of and I would so like to know how the f*ck these people get it that easy cause unless you have a charitable family member/friend to let you stay with them for 5+ yrs and/or a good Dr to do great follow through, and a sympathic judge that doesn't say "well you can sit and file/take calls", its next to impossible to get. In my experience with both physical and mental disabilties.

Just my opinions.
 
So yes, cutting these programs, fuel assistance, meals on wheels, and health insurance, will litterly kill people if they are taken away
I think most countries are at an economical precipice, and who tips will be the one to watch.
But the on disabilty when you dont need it is shit I see a lot of and I would so like to know how the f*ck these people get it
Yer... I watched a current affairs show on this, and they concluded that most where raised on such systems. Cyclic. They're bred into how to rip-off a system and maximise their own self benefits. Its basically their full-time job to exploit welfare systems, with no intent to ever work for a living.

Others sit there wondering why they aren't getting something when they need it, yet these such people know exactly what to say to get the same thing. Full time study was welfare.
 
They're bred into how to rip-off a system and maximise their own self benefits. Its basically their full-time job to exploit welfare systems, with no intent to ever work for a living.

I believe it and I've seen it.

I think "poor" is looked at way wrong in this country. Its completely backwards.

Just my opinion.
 
I'm kind of wondering, though, @ShikibuZ. If the only other American in the room was Rex Tillerson, will we ever really know the truth? Because he has his own ties with Russia. And probably has no interest in sharing exactly what went on.

We and a lot of other people are starting to get even more alarmed. Tonight my husband, who is not a person prone to hyperbole, speculated whether there are "Americans" who would take up arms to defend Trump against our own country. It is an incredibly disquieting thought, made even more so by the fact that he keeps up with everything and is usually the one to calm down friends who are freaking out. He keeps saying that as a student of history he finds solace in the fact that nothing lasts forever, but we are in a very dangerous situation right now, on many fronts.
 
But its minimum wage. Its supposed to be low.

It's supposed to keep people out of poverty, just nosing the line perhaps, but most states attempt to keep the number at 1% difference either side of the line.

  • Full-time earnings for minimum wage earners are estimated based on a 40-hour work week and 50 working weeks per year.
  • The current federal minimum wage is $7.25 per hour, which leads to a full-time minimum wage of $15,080 per year.
  • In 2012, the poverty threshold for a single person was $11,945 and $22,283 for a family of four with two children.
Okay. So those numbers work. But these are also national averages. So what about when the local poverty line ISNT at 12k but at 44k? That means a person would need to work FOUR full time jobs, at minimum wage, to still be just hovering above/below the poverty line. That's 160 hours a week. Quite simply? That's not possible. And also why certain high cost of living cities like San Francisco & Seattle have doubled the minimum wage to $15. So a person only has to work 80 hours a week to be at the poverty line*.


Most min wage jobs are for 16 yr olds anyway. How much do we really want tennagers paid? Adults? Get a job that pays more. They are out there. Rural? Work from home. Theres even more of those oppuruntities today.
Nope. Half of all minimum wage jobs in the US are worked by those 25 & over. The other half? Aren't just 16yos! The vast majority of minimum wage jobs aren't worked by teenagers.
What are the characteristics of minimum wage workers? - UC Davis Center for Poverty Research

If it were as easy as "just get a job that pays more" do you reeeeally think we'd be having a crisis of poverty? That cities would be doubling minimum wage, or be requiring people to be 800% below the poverty line (essentially homeless with no assets, including no available credit on credit cards) to receive any kind of aid (the average food stamp distribution in my city? $12 a month. But most people don't even qualify. Even most homeless people). That's how overtaxed our system is. Formerly middle class people have been losing their jobs & homes by the millions, and have been cobbling together 2,3,4 minimum wage jobs just try into keep their families off the street. The housing in my city? Is starting to look a bit russian. Landlords are fighting to enact laws that limit the number of families which can live in an apartment. Not roommates. Whole families. Different family in each bedroom. It's not endemic here (no matter how up in arms landlords are, and how much privacy is being invade by random spot checks), as most people are simply leaving the city, moving a few hours away to lower cost of living. Which is creating a different kind of crisis; we have more minimum wage jobs available than you can shake a stick at. Because the workers? Are leaving. And my city is freaking out about that. (And unilaterally ignoring screaming landlords). Because a city can't run on doctors, lawyers, & software engineers alone. Bedroom communities can. But not cities. Small businesses? Can't afford to pay more than minimum wage and stay open. (Large businesses? Won't. They'll just close up that location, and move. Another city problem.) And neither can afford to have zero employees. Because no one will work their job, that doesn't even make 25% of their rent due each month.

It is a HUGE, multifaceted, complex problem. I've listed 3 aspects, and there really are dozens. And that's just minimum wage related.

Most people? Don't want to be poor. Are fighting like hell not to be. No one working 2, 3, 4 minimum wage jobs to make ends meet is suffering from laziness, and despite my periodic bouts of misanthropy most people aren't stupid. If they could work 40 hours making twice or ten times as much? Would in a heartbeat. Are putting themselves through school, saving for certificate programs, working their assess off trying to get better jobs. Huge problem, poverty. Huge.
 
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Most min wage jobs are for 16 yr olds anyway. How much do we really want tennagers paid? Adults? Get a job that pays more. They are out there. Rural? Work from home. Theres even more of those oppuruntities today.
This is incredibly naive. And work-from-home jobs aren't proliferating for the working class. If you have a valuable skill set in certain lines of work you can parlay them into a decent paycheck, but let's not be unrealistic - that's called "starting your own business".

@Friday, amazing post.
 
Bernie Madoff, never coerced anyone to join his scheme, he was arrested and he killed himself in his cell rather than stand trial.
Bernie Madoff didn't kill himself. His son, Mark, hung himself in his home in New York with his son in the other room. His other son, Andrew, died from cancer. The coercion Bernie used was false reporting of profits to his shareholders. That was all the coercion he needed to continue to keep his scheme rolling, until it didn't. Depending on the investor, he would report 10%-18% profit margins on portfolio's. People actually quit their job bc they made more money sitting at home letting Bernie manage their money than going to work. He did coerce, it was very manipulative, and he will likely have a scheme named after him one day he was such a horrific guy.
 
speculated whether there are "Americans" who would take up arms to defend Trump against our own country.
I can totally see that happening. Except, since he's the president, there'd be somewhat of a debate about who is defending what. Were the Nazi officers who tried to assassinate Hitler patriots or terrorists? I know what I think, but, legally, they weren't patriots in the Germany of the time. The issue isn't exactly straightforward. But, I'll totally sure there are people who'd willingly take up arms to defend Trump, out of a sense of duty, because they believe in what they think he stands for, or because they think it's in their own best interest. As long as he's the president, technically, it seems to me that defending the country/system is pretty well tied up with defending the Trump.
 
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