Milo's papa
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I agree @scout86. It's a sad day for all Americans. I want to apologise to all survivors of sexual violence. This is a travesty.
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scout86
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And yet....perhaps not. Quite the rollercoaster & Truth is still in the game.
If they jam this through with NO infestation, I hope it costs them time!
If they jam this through with NO infestation, I hope it costs them time!
Justmehere
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Judge Kavanaugh is a terrible nomination and even though Flake almost folded, I’m trying to hope they won’t go through with it and will instead rush a better option through...
Whoever they nominate though, the Democrats will see as a long term loss.
As far as the system getting progressively worse and partisan... look up info on the failed nomination of Fortas and the several nominations after him. Total partisan disasters. Extensively.
What is different is how much Americans can be involved in watching the process, via so many forms of communication (everything from cable news and YouTube) and I think that makes the impact on the American psyche much deeper. More jarring. All the veneer of it being a flawless system run by decent people falls away, more clearly and more often.
It’s easy to lose hope watching what is happening and we are in a tremendously divisive time in history. It’s easy to feel like it’s worse than ever.... but it’s always been bad since Madison was calling Thomas Jefferson all kinds of names and there were drunken parties in the White House.
This nation was founded by very flawed rebels. It’s bound to be a mess.
And yet we actually still have considerable say in what happens.
The GOP has a majority in all three houses. They were always going to put a far right judge on the court. The democrats were always going to try anything they could to stop it.
The GOP could have nominated someone better much sooner. The Dems could have brought the info on this nomination up sooner.
Millions of Americans support the GOP, and their say is what is driving this process. The one reason why Republicans would confirm Kavanaugh is because they fear losing the majority in less than 6 weeks. They fear what the people will say and do at the ballot box very soon. They used town the side that expressed feeling hopeless and helpless.
We the people may not always get the outcomes we want, at great cost, but we haven’t lost all power.
Whoever they nominate though, the Democrats will see as a long term loss.
As far as the system getting progressively worse and partisan... look up info on the failed nomination of Fortas and the several nominations after him. Total partisan disasters. Extensively.
What is different is how much Americans can be involved in watching the process, via so many forms of communication (everything from cable news and YouTube) and I think that makes the impact on the American psyche much deeper. More jarring. All the veneer of it being a flawless system run by decent people falls away, more clearly and more often.
It’s easy to lose hope watching what is happening and we are in a tremendously divisive time in history. It’s easy to feel like it’s worse than ever.... but it’s always been bad since Madison was calling Thomas Jefferson all kinds of names and there were drunken parties in the White House.
This nation was founded by very flawed rebels. It’s bound to be a mess.
And yet we actually still have considerable say in what happens.
The GOP has a majority in all three houses. They were always going to put a far right judge on the court. The democrats were always going to try anything they could to stop it.
The GOP could have nominated someone better much sooner. The Dems could have brought the info on this nomination up sooner.
Millions of Americans support the GOP, and their say is what is driving this process. The one reason why Republicans would confirm Kavanaugh is because they fear losing the majority in less than 6 weeks. They fear what the people will say and do at the ballot box very soon. They used town the side that expressed feeling hopeless and helpless.
We the people may not always get the outcomes we want, at great cost, but we haven’t lost all power.
Milo's papa
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Maybe. It's still up to Trump to ask the FBI to investigate this. I highly doubt that he will take the risk. He's got too big and ego.
scout86
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I totally agree that it's inevitable that Trump is going to nominate a "conservative" judge. As I've told every Senator I've emailed (and that's a lot them this point) I don't expect a justice I agree out this administration, but I kinda do expect one I respect. I didn't see one thing respectable in either of his appearances before the committee.
Milo's papa
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I found him to be disrespectful, belligerent and paranoid. Not unlike the person who nominated him.
Justmehere
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Friday
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We’re getting a House of Commons?!? :woot:
Friday
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:bag: Reeeeead the link before posting, Friday. Read.
I’d have had a hard time deciding between these two.
I’d probably have gone with the barking seals, in the end, since the pit of snakes were mostly rubber (Who wants to dust that?!? Poor whitehouse cleaning staff. ...Then again, the right to “turn the hose on” the Senate we could probably auction off, and fully fund Social Services. But seals we could throw fish at, and run ne’er do wells through a gauntlet of seals -after, of course- holding a 3 year bipartisan committee overseen investigation as to working definition of ne’er do wells, then summarily ignoring the 6,000 page brief, simply decide it means the House of Reps). Like I said, it would be a hard decision.
I’d still have lost, in the end, to the poop party. But it would have been an exciting race!
I’d have had a hard time deciding between these two.
I’d probably have gone with the barking seals, in the end, since the pit of snakes were mostly rubber (Who wants to dust that?!? Poor whitehouse cleaning staff. ...Then again, the right to “turn the hose on” the Senate we could probably auction off, and fully fund Social Services. But seals we could throw fish at, and run ne’er do wells through a gauntlet of seals -after, of course- holding a 3 year bipartisan committee overseen investigation as to working definition of ne’er do wells, then summarily ignoring the 6,000 page brief, simply decide it means the House of Reps). Like I said, it would be a hard decision.
I’d still have lost, in the end, to the poop party. But it would have been an exciting race!
scout86
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How about PUPPIES??? I want something fun and cute, not what we've got right now.
WillyKat
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Dr. Ford's said, when answering the question about which memory is most clear to her, that it was the laughing.
It took me a couple of days to see the similarity to what my abuser told me when he had finished. He lured me into the loft of a barn on the pretext he needed me to help him look for something. When he finished, he reached around from behind, showed me what was on his hand, and said, "See, this is what I was looking for right here." He didn't laugh, but there was a joke laying there beneath his words, and it was on me.
That was my indelible memory. It's the most vivid thing I remember, both visual and auditory.
Kavanaugh is unfit for his current position, let alone SCOTUS. Even if you took the sexual assault off the table, we're still looking at putting an obvious alcoholic on the court.
It took me a couple of days to see the similarity to what my abuser told me when he had finished. He lured me into the loft of a barn on the pretext he needed me to help him look for something. When he finished, he reached around from behind, showed me what was on his hand, and said, "See, this is what I was looking for right here." He didn't laugh, but there was a joke laying there beneath his words, and it was on me.
That was my indelible memory. It's the most vivid thing I remember, both visual and auditory.
Kavanaugh is unfit for his current position, let alone SCOTUS. Even if you took the sexual assault off the table, we're still looking at putting an obvious alcoholic on the court.
Justmehere
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I vote for nominating a puppy.
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