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@Friday , I wish I could "like" that long, philosophical post a thousand times!

Like a lot of things, all we can control, in the end, is our own responses. At the moment, I hope that means not giving in to hate and fear, to keep actually thinking, for ourselves.

I'm honestly not fired up with the idea of mandatory voting. If someone doesn't WANT to vote, and doesn't take the time to inform themselves on the issues, it might better they stayed home.
 
I guess it comes down to how motivated one is to change things.

Here it is considered a big deal along with getting a drivers licence and drinking alcohol. Ha! The mind boggles!! :)
 
I don’t support the confirmation of Kavanaugh. It’s terrible for many reasons. I believe he should not be a judge and that there is a decent chance his conduct with Ford was as Ford describes. I really hoped he wouldn't be confirmed. He's unqualified and a terrible judge for many reasons, not just the sex abuse ones.

Many in the the GOP were wrong to state judge Kavanaugh deserved due process. Fifth Amendment of the US Constitution indicates that no one can be "deprived of life, liberty or property without due process of law" by the federal government.

He was not at risk of being deprived of life.
He was not at risk of being deprived of liberty.
He was not at risk of being deprived of property.

So. No process is due him.

And on the other side... This wasn't exactly a process to seek justice for sexual abuse. Not getting a job isn't justice for sexual abuse.
Nobody has referred this mess to a Court. To find the truth.
There is a reason for that. With so many lawyers and passionate parties and power and money involved, if this was actually a reasonable option to try to stop the judge, they likely would have tried it. I mean, I guess it's possible they overlooked it, but it seems awfully unlikely. Maybe they will do it, but even Ford has come out to state she doesn't want him impeached and removed from the Supreme Court.

The court of our public opinion does not have the same standards as a legal court process. The FBI interviewed those directly involved. These are the people whose testimony might actually be admissible. It was limited in scope but more or less cleared Judge K. The was apparently no probable cause to arrest him or even suggest he shouldn't be hired. The FBI did more than what most police departments would do with this type of decades old report. Local police in Maryland would have likely come to the same conclusion if this had gone though them for criminal prosecution. Even if they had not, there is almost no chance a DA would take this to trial. Why? A court would be unable to find out the truth to the degree he could be convicted.

The witnesses Ford said were there all deny the incident ever happening. She has been unclear on many details (which is very common for truth telling victims and it does make it hard for anyone to prosecute.) She also was unsure at times on year, location, etc. Polygraphs are inadmissible and there are witnesses who say she has coached others how to pass them anyhow.

There is so much room for reasonable doubt, any defense attorney could spin this six ways to Sunday.The truth would be lost entirely under so many plausible theories to give reasonable doubt.

The reality is that this was a fancy job interview process. Ford was a negative character witness. A bad reference. The senate decided to hire anyhow. Do I support this? Oh shiesh no.

This whole mess should have been handled privately. Fienstein should have given the republicans a heads up there were problems with this judge. The republicans should have listened to metoo and nominated Amy Coney Barrett or another female judge on the right. And not confirmed this partisan jerk with a temper.

But they didn't. And I'm honestly a little weary of so many saying (representative) democracy is lost. No, actually, this is how it works, and it isn't the same as ruling by the majority of public opinion. Most of the time when it's direct democracy, it is ruling by the court of public option, and it's a short matter of time before a dictator is in place.

The people elected these senators. The senators made a choice that they felt was wise based on who they represent and what evidence they saw.

The people continue to have the power to choose who will stay in the senate and who will not.
 
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The witnesses Ford said were there all deny the incident ever happening

Actually, they didn't deny it happened, they said they didn't remember. Big difference. When I was a witness for an investigation of someone who was being nominated for public office, none of the police officers who were my friends "remembered" the incidents. The officer in charge of the investigation said this is quite common. I was lucky in the fact that I found someone who did remember, and the candidate withdrew. The incidents being investigated were over 10 years prior, but still pertinent. I was convinced this person would kill me, and my family if he found out it was me. I'm still afraid of retribution. I feel for Ford, and what she had to go through to bring this to light.
 
It doesn’t much matter if they don’t remember or deny it in terms of why this didn’t go to a criminal court (yet). It is common for people to not remember or claim they don’t remember. The point is, they can’t support her allegations and that’s part of why this did not go to a criminal court (yet.)

She says they were there and pointed to them as witnesses and they can’t supoort her claim. Any defense lawyer would have a field day with that. Reasonable doubt is unfortunately easy to establish.

I personally tend to believe Ford is credible. But there currently isn’t enough evidence to convict.

I understand why victims wait to report and I don’t blame any victim at all for waiting or event not reporting at all. Ford has not actually filed a report with the local PD. Just with the FBI, which isn’t the usual process.

It does make it considerably harder to prosecute when victims wait to report any crime. Or they don’t go to local law enforcement at all.

Again, I don’t blame Ford, I really believe Ford. I really get why she didn’t report and didn’t report sooner. I reported once right away and the reporting process was horrible. But right now, there isn’t enough evidence to hold the judge accountable in a court. That’s the very tough reality of the situation.

It freaking sucks. He should not have been nominated and confirmed.

A Reasonable Prosecutor Would Not Bring Ford Case Against Kavanaugh
 
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There can only be a use of law if you are in a courtroom. However once upon a time there were norms in the Senate concerning these types of alegations. They went away with the Justice Thomas fiasco. After this, I doubt they will ever return.
 
Yes - so he didn't handle himself too well at the Senate hearing.
I don't think that is going to bring him or anyone else undone really. No laws against being emotive even it is self-serving, biased and unprofessional behaviour.
He wasn't sitting as a judge at the time was he? That's where this derives from isn't it?
 
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