Most Controversial Post You've Ever Read

[Imo]

I barely make the Under 35 crowd. Call me a starter Millennial. In regard to sexual assault in this generational context I will point out a couple factors...

I occupy a unique perspective. Cell phones first became a thing when I was a Junior in high school. Every school I went too got a computer lab the year after I left. The internet was a thing wealthier folks had when I was a teen. I had my first personal computer in college.

I survived a brutal sexual assault as a teen. The perps were classmates who systematically bullied and isolated me. I am fortunate that the internet was not yet a thing because with that deadly tool they may have succeeded in getting me to off myself.

In another way I suffered. I was isolated from other survivors. There was no anonymous Internet forums to relate my experience to another's. I see women slightly younger than myself standing together and speaking out about sexual assault. The internet is a huge force in bringing women out of silence.

The OP sounds VERY bias against Millenials
And spews every STEREOTYPE.

The part about college women passing out, getting fingered and crying rape reeks of allegory to the Stanford rape trial. Let's not forget Brick Turner got a wrist slap only under pressure.

The internet is allowing young women to get together and talk about the bullshit rules of a male right to sex and cultural expectations of female accommodation. Damn right these women feel victimized. We are conditioned to accommodate male sexual bias.

I see Millenials standing up against f*cked up cultural norms.

I also believe we will need to spend time loving our young men, teaching them about consent and holding our culture accountable for the obiqutous use of female objectification and glorification of male sexual conquest.

Until we live in a world where rape is actually treated as a crime it is counterproductive to argue the OPs points.

I had a black black rape. I never reported. I know I would be flayed on the stand. I would be impugned. I would be further socially ostracized...

Really, older generations have been conditioned to accept rape as normal. Sex without consent? That's just part of the college experience... never mind US colleges have long employed rape reporting suppression to prevent drops in admissions...

It sounds to me like the OP has internalized a lot of negative cultural messages and challenges around consent in the conversation of Millenials may be threatening.

 

[Wopata]

Ive never heard the term Millenials or Genx or Geny.
I do know that the CSA. Is the Child Support Agency.

Perhaps the OP could be a little clearer in what/ who s/he is trying to say, other than not all rape is an offence ( I think that's what it boils down to).

 

[Arapug]

Someone wrote unapologetically about sex with dogs saying it wasn't illegal in Florida. First, animal abuse. Second, se...

That was the most controversial thing I have read here too. It subsequently lead me to blocking the poster. I am quite sure the poster has evolved since that time and really hope he/she has resolved some of those issues.

 

[Akuc]

but I do not agree that all these alleged sex offenders belong in jail. I don't believe most were sex offenders at all.

YOU don't believe. But why is it your opinion that matters ? If they are in jail then they have been found guilty in a court of law.

these young opportunistic boys truly in their heart do not know their sexual parter is feeling violated

But that is the whole point - they should know the difference between violation and pleasurable sex. If they have not learnt that they should back off until they are more mature.

Why is it that when two drunk 20 yr olds have sex it's considered a boy raping a girl?

Only if it is rape. Not all sexual activity is rape - but fair is fair - if the boy feels that the girl was raping him then he has every right to report her. It is a 2 way street and I accept that some men are raped by women.

calling a boy a rapist because he put his arms around her and put his fingers inside her. 20 yrs ago that was first base.

NOT in my world. If you think that is "NORMAL" then you live by different rules and expectations to me. That being the case we are all different, therefore it is imperative to communicate with each other to find out what is acceptable and wanted. BOTH WAYS. The girl should not be groping the guy either unless he wants it.

Now that boy is locked up in prison and the girl is in therapy for rape trauma syndrome.

Do you think therapy is a *fun* activity? Do you thing girls are diagnosed by mistake or do you think they are pretending? Why are they putting themselves through therapy if there is no problem?

getting participation trophies all their lives and now they want rape/PTSD labels for getting fingered in college?

Want PTSD? Are you for real. Have you actually read all the other posts on here about how dreadful PTSD actually is. Do you actually have a diagnosis yourself? Is for a sex related event or are you on this forum as a result of some other trauma? We have had perpetrators on here before trying to justify sex crimes. Under the cloak of anonymity I wonder what your purpose is.

Getting fingered while drunk by a drunk boy is not rape.

You keep repeating the 'fingered' part. Why? It is penetration and if unwanted is rape. Whether the boy is drunk or not is irrelevant. Whether the girl is drunk or not is irrelevant. Mutual consent is what matters.

You have every right to feel violated, you did allow yourself to be violated.

Violation happens 'to' someone. You cannot *allow* it or it is not a violation. If a person was violated then they were violated, never can it be said they allowed it to happen.

Only boys are forced to communicate? Not girls?

Communication is a 2 way (or more) activity. You cannot communicate with an unconscious or sleeping person. You cannot communicate on your own. MUTUAL consent.. Again.

 

[Etan]

The one idea here that is 100% correct is that there are varying degrees. On one hand there is full-blown rape. I'm sure...

Did you call her out on it?

 

[Tecug]

I do know that the CSA. Is the Child Support Agency...

CSA is not the child support agency.

CSA is childhood sexual abuse.

 

[Nuvunit]

I say leave the doggy f*cking out of the convo.

I think it was mentioned as something more offensive than this post, nothing more.

I agree, having sex with a dog and defending your right to do so in the name of trauma effects is pretty darn offensive. Poor animals!

 

[Ahe]

One thing I notice about these days and the generation under 35 is that if just all seems so Dam confusing! Porn is everywhere, heavy duty and readily accessible for everyone, children included. Women are portrayed pumped up breastcwise, bottom wise, lip wise. Even musicians seem to need to be like porn stars, where once it was all jeans and tshirts, looks didn't come that far into it all.
I think it's a much harder world to grow up in now - way too liberal in some ways, overly nit picky and punitive in others.
Sex was once a pretty private affair, now it's public, political and policed.
we all make mistakes with our sexuality - or most of us anyway - males and females.
But sex is so out there now, I can see how confusing it must really be for millennials.
The more liberated women have gotten, the more hard core the porn gets.
Is sexuality a power or is it vulnerability to violation?
I think a lot of women feel both, or one then the other, and just end up confused. And men misread women often, they always have. But our culture pushes sex sex sex to the point where you wonder how people see past that to the person.
I think all this hard core porn everywhere has messed up people's heads.
After all, it's very true that times change but people are really the same as they've ever been, wanting and looking for the same thing.
Nobody wants to be a toy, an object, that always feels like a violation.
But is it rape?
I kind of think it's just massive confusion that has swamped our western world.
I don't think millennials are coddled, they're thrown out into a really confusing and harsh world created by the generations that came before with not much wisdom handed down sadly.
The sexual revolution has a lot to answer for. My view anyway!

 

[Fufa]

One thing I notice about these days and the generation under 35 is that if just all seems so Dam confusing! Porn is everyw...

I have to agree. I have a family member that worked in that industry. It messed her up.

 

[Aro]

I never thought people took rape seriously enough. You want to play with words, let's call it sexual assault.

If you are a guy, let's take this statement:

and put his fingers inside her.

and change it around a little. Let's say someone, when you are drunk, sticks their fingers up your ass. That's not rape either is it? Think it isn't an incredible invasion?

20 yrs ago that was first base.

20 years ago that was NOT first base. Nor is it now.

Why is it that when two drunk 20 yr olds have sex it's considered a boy raping a girl? He was drunk, too.

Then maybe, if he feels this is a real risk; that the poor little boy who doesn't know how to protect himself from these evil women, he shouldn't get drunk and be sexually active unless he with a known and trusted partner?

Poor little boys who have no idea what he did wrong! Wah.... Tissue?

 

[Ipevi]

I never thought people took rape seriously enough. You want to play with words, let's call it sexual assault.

If you a...

Oh please...in junior high and high school, part of making out was getting "fingered." This is not rape. No 13 yr old is going to say, "may I finger you?" Are you saying these boys belong on the sex offender registry?

And honestly, yes it happens in reverse and no guy calls it rape or claims PTSD. Some Hetero guys love a pinky in their ass by a girl. If a girl does this while getting it on with a guy, the guy does not call this rape even though she didn't ask first and even though he may feel violated.

And furthermore if you think the Stanford kid got a slap on the wrist you are out of your mind. His life is ruined. His name and his face have been thrown all over the globe as a savage rapist. And truthfully, he was drunk and making out with a girl and fingered her as she passed out. He was shit faced drunk, too.

This is hardly a savage rape. That kid will never work again and will never be able to have a wife and family. She, on the other hand, is lauded as a hero and coddled as a victim, even though she was just fingered by a guy she was making out with at a frat party. Absolutely insane.

If I had to choose which one I would rather be it would be her. His life is destroyed. If she has PTSD from getting fingered while drunk then she has grown up in the most bizarrely coddled bubble. What world is she living in that that is a savage rape?
What world are you living in that you agree?

I'd love to show you all my memories so you can see this is comparing 1 Apple to 10,000 oranges. Please, in my next life, let the worst thing to happen to me be getting fingered by a nerdy drunk 18yr old while I'm drunk.

 

[Atub]

and change it around a little. Let's say someone, when you are drunk, sticks their fingers up your ass. That's not rape either is it? Think it isn't an incredible invasion?

You forgot to answer this question. And if you don't know the answer for it you have no business posting about something you don't know anything about.

I have no more time for you.