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Ever feel so messed up that just understanding yourself feels like a victory?

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PointlessExistence

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I go through a cycle.

1) I become more and more distressed.
2) I get to a point where things seem like they can't get any darker.
3) I'll have some moment of clarity or a kind of "epiphany" that makes sense of everything.
4) I'll feel a sort of relief, or even a sense of accomplishment, just from understanding how and why my thoughts are the way they are. This feeling stays for maybe a few days at most.

The cycle repeats...
 
That particular pattern isn’t in my repertoire... but I have others. What’s absolutely fantastic about mapping them out, the way you have, is that as soon as I’m able to lock down one of those patterns? I can set about changing it.

I think it's finally getting through to me that the point is to set about changing it instead of just cycling validation and despair.
 
wow this is exactly what I do. I'm laughing at your description not in a bad way, but it just cracks me up that you have so precisely put "me" into a little descriptive 1. 2. 3. 4. list. I have never thought about changing this. LOL. But, yes, realizing what I'm thinking, why I'm thinking it is like "aha!" a little victory. Yeah, just wait a couple days and the whole thing plays out again. I'm also wondering if I'm not an alcoholic and if this isn't just an alcoholic brain I'm dealing with. I'm really starting to wonder about that.
 
I love how you mapped it out and itemized them! Lol... I do almost the exact same thing. My moments of clarity can last for two days, two weeks, or two minutes and then *poof* it's gone and I am back on the hamster wheel. I am trying to find hope instead of despair in the moments of clarity. They don't come often enough and they don't stay long enough, but I hope they will become the norm and not the exception.
 
I get up on the mountain and I can see everything and I understand everything and everyone and I don't see how I thought I couldn't control it, and how I could ever be out of control again. Then my wife says, "you're delusional".

buzzkill

But I'm not severely depressed and I'm not on psych meds at least not right now. I was thinking last night while I was up half the night that a psychiatrist might not be a bad idea but, that would start that part of the cycle again or it could.
 
From my experience, I never had a change that did not precipitated by a high frustration/anxiety so high that I thought I would never see the light again. In therapy, they call the optimum frustration - there is a point where the frustration/anxiety can be unbearable and no advantage but there is a point where a good change comes after certain level of adversity/anxiety/frustration in life.

What is happening (and I could be wrong) is that a) you may not have a therapy or a good one to guide you how to maximize your recovery phases and also that your framing is problematic.

the first one is self-explanatory but let me say more about the second. All therapy really does is to help you cope anxiety so you can see the other side and when you get there, hold it and experience it enough to have your brain and body change to accommodate the new neurons being created or integrate. but your framing, use of language, understanding your past and making meaning of it all have to align for this to pass beyond a quick epiphany.

I journal to hold the feelings. I look for patterns (sometimes it takes many epiphanies to get one layer of integration laid).
I use group therapy to talk about it and make it more real by relating it to others and remembering them longer.
I use my dreams to help me further so I fantasize about my new clarity so it can seep deeper into my consciousness.

I can give you an example: I have had a lot of hate toward my mother but could not find how this may manifest often..where does it go? I am in therapy as well as group therapy so I am in the midst of all. But for some reason, I am also in therapy school and I find myself fantasizing about the population I like to help when I finish school. I feel I would work better with men who abuse their intimate partner or jail populations...all these time, I am experiencing a lot of anxiety (high frustrations). Then it downed on me that my fantasizes were about people who are violent. I have a very violent background...long story of processing short. I came to the realization that my hate toward my mother manifested as hostility in me. and I can be hostile when crossed or when I am threatened. I managed an OK life not to end in jail or abuse anyone but that was it. I managed that much hostility and was owning it. I was in euphoria by now...I own such an ugly side and I feel I could help others like me who maybe did not manage as well...who knows.
my point is this....I write my new findings and find ways to insert in my life to make sense of them...and I aim to reap the benefits.

I am not sure if this post makes sense to you at all...but you are gifted and you are lucky to actually have moments of clarity...it just means there is veil of dissociation or something that comes down to block it afterwards...but that is you...it is all you and hope you increase that incrementally and good luck.
 
@grit Your post definitely does make sense to me. In fact I just started journal writing the day I posted this thread. Maybe it's the Risperdal I started at the start of the month, but for whatever reason, I now feel like I can (at least sometimes) see the patterns and the thought-process changes from an outside vantage point.

I'm still cycling the validation/despair, but I don't go nearly as deep into the despair and I spend more and more time feeling validated. And the validation feels different now. I used to have the constant nagging thoughts that the validation was a delusion, and I used to feel scared, waiting to fully lose the validating feeling and go back into depression and distress. Now I accept that I'll lose the feeling, but I know I'll keep getting it back. And keeping track will help me reduce the dark feelings, hopefully entirely.
 
I go through a cycle.

1) I become more and more distressed.
2) I get to a point where things seem like they can't get any darker.
3) I'll have some moment of clarity or a kind of "epiphany" that makes sense of everything.
4) I'll feel a sort of relief, or even a sense of accomplishment, just from understanding how and why my thoughts are the way they are. This feeling stays for maybe a few days at most.

The cycle repeats...

I did this EXACT thing for months on end directly after my trauma. I lost who I was completely and with that I lost all sense of self and couldn’t comprehend who I was or why I did the things I did. I just couldn’t understand. With time, my patterns of behaviour became clearer, as did my triggers and through therapy I developed some kind of understanding of it all - it IS an accomplishment! Also, finding this forum made me feel less ‘crazy’ and was actually comforting that I wasn’t loosing my mind... my mind just changed because of the trauma.
 
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