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Dream Guardians?

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Last night I was having particular trouble falling asleep. As soon as I started letting my thoughts drift in the liminal space between conscious and unconscious, I would have a horrendous panic attack that grabbed me out of relaxation and make my central nervous system freak out--sweating, thumping heart, shaking, ect. I've done a lot of lucid dreaming practices to try and ensure a good night's sleep, because my main concern is finding peace before sleep and staving off nightmares. One of my lucid dreaming practices involves trying to invoke guardian figures in my dreams. Does anybody else have dream guardians or tips on how to better access the people you want to in dreams? I am very good at lucid dreaming when things are going well in a dream but generally bad at controlling nightmares other than trying to coax these figures to appear in my dream to protect me.

Below is a description of what I mean when I say guardian. I am wondering if anybody else has characters like these.

I have had difficulty sleeping since I was about four or five years old. I remember being as young as five or six and staying up past midnight with my mother long after everybody else has gone to sleep and usually lay awake in bed for several hours before falling asleep, and usually experienced night terrors as a child (my sister often told me that she came into my room at night while I was screaming only to have me blurt out something with my eyes wide open and then pass out again, never remembering these episodes) and then nightmares all the way through my adult life (last night, for example). But also in my dreams, there have been certain guardian figures. It is rare that I am saved from peril in a dream, but there are a few people/figures who have interrupted my nightmares and saved me just to disappear afterward.

The first guardian I noticed was a giant wolf as a child, who has only returned once or twice after the age of ten or so. I remember entering landscapes, huge panoramas, and waiting for him to arrive, and he would come and sit with me, and whatever monsters or men came to destroy me would be run off by my wolf protector. Sometimes I would be in a nightmare and he would appear, and my dream little girl self would laugh at the men who had tried to torment me as the wolf came to my side. I even thought I saw him sometimes in real life when I was afraid as a little girl.

Since then, I have had a couple of friends/partners who have appeared as my saviors in my dreams. One always appears as a shadow, takes away the danger, and leaves. He only ever spoke to me once to tell me that I was safe before leaving. Another is an ex-boyfriend who often appears as an angel who puts me to bed (inside of my dream) and watches over me. The last is my fiance, who is the only dream character who has ever heard and responded to my screaming.

I'm so grateful that I've had these figures help me periodically throughout the years. I just wish I could make them always appear. It is a rare occurrence for me to lucid dream and make a powerful version of myself--takes a lot of concentration that risks waking from the dream. Otherwise, I would be trying to save myself instead, but these characters help me a lot.
 
I haven't heard of what you've described but I really like it. I've only recently started lucid dreaming a little bit and in those lucid moments I scream for my mom, expecting her to come get me out of the dream. I'm always confused why she doesn't show up and why she can't hear me. I think this is me expecting her to be a 'dream guardian' as you put it. I bet we can create these guardians for ourselves somehow, but how is escaping me at the moment.

I really like it, though, and I think you're on to something.
 
In the mid-80's, these Guardians protected me while I had a fitful dream. Fighting a man in a tunnel with a knife. They took their wings and covered me. I wrote it down in detail and showed a friend. I still have the writings. I was able to awaken without being cut.
 
I still have the writings. I was able to awaken without being cut.

That sounds wonderful, Linda. The idea of you being covered in wings and safe in your dreams really warmed me.

Reclusive, first off, I really must get this out of the way with you. Your avatar picture makes me so happy and smiley when I see it. I love fennec foxes. I relate to their expressions well, and I love the pairing of your name. Now that's out of the way forever.

In terms of lucid dreaming, I have really never read very much about how to do this. I just noticed that I had a lot of influence in my dreams, and I have a lot of reoccurring dreams that I am able to remember are dreams, so I gain an autonomy in the dream. I am also very aware of how to influence my dreams through media and before-sleep thoughts. For example, when I was about thirteen, I was extremely addicted to a vampire game. I had a dream that I was a vampire trapped in a building complex (not in the game) who had to get to the top of the building without being seen and kill a vampire leader while he was giving an important speech (random!). It was both a horrific and thrilling dream. I had it again, but was aware that I was dreaming, and thought much more logically about what to do, plus I knew the complex and navigated it well. I made a whole plan of attack. Unfortunately, in any dream where I seek to correct decisions I made in the original version of the dream, I almost always succeed the first time and fail the next, more rational times. Odd, hm?

Conversely, around the same age I was cycling repetitively through the Harry Potter series through books 1-5, not chronologically, and I probably read each of them three times in a span of months. This really effected my dreams, and I had persistent dreams of being a little girl in the house I grew up, hiding in the place in the basement where most of my abuse occurred, and the dementors were coming to get me. I was equipped with my wand and actually remembered all of the words and flourishes for all of the spells, except for the spell that fights dementors (which, if you don't know, is a spell that makes an ethereal guardian being come and chase away the dementors. Dementors are soul-sucking creatures that fill you with images and sensations of your worst fears. Does this effect sound familiar to anyone maybe?). I could not for the life of me remember that one single spell. I used to brush up on it regularly just so I could try to remember in my dream. I even did this months after it stopped recurring, just in case.

As a more classic example of lucid dreaming, I have realized that I was in a dream (which typically happens because I have had the dream before, but I cannot control many recurring dreams and I have been able to identify several dreams that I'd never experienced before through some kind of tell. This sounds very Inception, but it's like this for me. I'm trying to experiment with checking license plates in dreams. That is sure to give it away.) and used this opportunity to experiment with actually making things very different, taking control. First, I experimented with telekinesis. Then I tried flying. Flying is generally pretty difficult for me unless I have wings. It's a mental exercise in breaking what you know as logic by accepting that you are in your own reality, but you must do this without waking yourself up, which is generally difficult. Sometimes I can feel when I'm beginning to risk waking up through my own efforts to control dreams. Sometimes it's easy to get back into it, but I've lost some good ones.

In concentrating on the dream guardians I described above, I am hoping that I will be able to invoke them in my dreams, because they will be prominent in my mind just before sleep. I think from last night's run that I need to focus on one, though. I think it may be less effective but possible to force myself to dream about other fantastical things that aren't nightmares at all, but I don't trust myself to be strong enough to override this trend really. Unless I drown myself in video games again. That works well for awesome dreams.

I don't know much about lucid dreaming, so maybe someone who does could help me understand what the process is supposed to be rather than how I have organically experienced it through simple exercises in concentration (or obsession, as in games/HP ^-^ ).
 
Wow, I have the same recurring dream thing that you do, where you realize you've been here before and remember how it went and make different decisions and stuff... I thought I was the only one! But I still don't realize it's a dream, just that I've been here before and I know what I need to do.

I wonder if maybe you wrote down a story about your dream guardian, how you met, along with an example of how it saves you and read that before bedtime if it would help? You seem to be effected a lot by reading, so it's just a thought.
 
I wonder if maybe you wrote down a story about your dream guardian, how you met, along with an example of how it saves you and read that before bedtime if it would help? You seem to be effected a lot by reading, so it's just a thought.
That's a good idea, Reclusive. I have one very clear memory of this kind of dream. I could recreate it in prose.

Last night I asked my fiance what kind of superhero he would want to be in my dreams, so now I'm practicing concentrating on the image of him sweeping in to see me in a black Ironman suit--hah!
 
Last night I asked my fiance what kind of superhero he would want to be in my dreams, so now I'm practicing concentrating on the image of him sweeping in to see me in a black Ironman suit--hah!
Just a bit of input:
My therapist strongly recommended to me to not use real existing people or places as Inner Guardians/Safe Place. Imagine you have a fight with the person you chose as your Guardian or something bad happening at the place you chose as Safe Place. It would taint that which is supposed to be always there, always loving, always safe.

Other than that: I, too, think that Reclusive's idea is great :)
 
Antisunshine's mental exercise to break traditional logic by accepting the reality we create in the lucid dream world is a good one to practice - and often scary - I fly a lot in this part of the dream world - sometimes I can't land - hahaha - I don't have many nightmares but when I do - I know what triggered them. It's the cognitive dreaming that freaks me out.
 
I fly a lot in this part of the dream world - sometimes I can't land
Before I started therapy, I used to fly regularly in my dreams. My husband used to laugh at the tales I would tell him.

I can't do that any more. My T says I no longer need to escape, so I can't fly because I don't need too. But actually in a funny kind of way I miss it. I never realised that not everybody can fly at night until it was gone.
 
My therapist strongly recommended to me to not use real existing people or places as Inner Guardians/Safe Place. Imagine you have a fight with the person you chose as your Guardian or something bad happening at the place you chose as Safe Place.
This is a good explanation for why my fiance really isn't someone who has regularly appeared in my dreams to save me. The two figures I would say most fully fulfill this role in my dreams and who have no other function in my dreams are the wolf and a friend I made who wasn't really a friend. He was a friend, but he never seemed like a real person to me. He came into my life very briefly, and in those months he was an ever-vigilant protector. I have no contact with him now. He's usually just a silhouette in my dreams. I think in some ways he was always a figurative ideal to me.

My T says I no longer need to escape, so I can't fly because I don't need to.
I hope that when I don't have to run from anything anymore, I can still fly with wings or a broom. Wings are definitely my favorite way to fly. Brooms are harder but also lots of fun. If you're good at lucid dreaming, you may try picking one up and trying? It may take reading Harry Potter throughout your youth though. My dreams are generally weirdly literary and logical. They have some set of baseline rules and a distinct universe of possibilities, so of course in a dream where there are Harry Potter rules, I can fly on a broom? Hm.
 
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