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pastisgone

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I am in a relationship of around 2 years. My partner was in the first stage of the Iraq War and has PTSD. About a little over a year ago he lost a sibling to cancer. This sibling meant the world to him, and we have had our problems more from my side not his. I've lied several times over to him because I did not want to upset him and didn't want to mess up the good image he had of me. Little did I know that a person with true or deep PTSD does not trust any one and I violated his trust because he trusted me wholeheartedly and let me into his world.

It took me a long time to see what I did to him and adjust my thinking to one of lying to protect him to say the truth and keep his trust. Now only about a month I have gotten deeper into my faith and respecting and knowing who I am.

I let our arguments and my deficiencies take the best of me. The put downs I accepted because I deserved them. There were very few times where I did not deserve them. But I thought I was doing something good for him and for myself by lying trying to portray and downplay my own baggage. Showing up when he didn't want any one around, and lying and manipulating situations which could have or may have led him to believe that I was not ready to be serious with him, only to pushed away. I let this play into my low self esteem which I already had.

Because of him I have gotten deeper into my faith, but now it seems like he has lost it only to find it. He has said he only feels happy when he is with his younger children they live in another state. His relationship with his oldest in early teens is tumultuous although they see each other daily its like we are the two that get the blunt anger when his PTSD arises. He states it over and over again that is where he feels happier because he feels he is needed there with his other children, like we are irrelevant or as if he doesn't think of us over here in his home state.

I'm very independent or try to portray myself as such but I need him also actually he is the only man I have ever needed. Even when we went our separate ways in our youth my heart yearned for him still did when he reached out to me I only stepped in as a friend not looking to get into a relationship because he is married. I stepped in because he reached out to me and I didn't want him to hurt himself or turn into a full blown alcoholic for the rest of his life.

He had so much going for him before he came back to his home state even though he was drinking so much. he says it was for me, but at that time his sibling was in final stages of his life. Sometimes when he mentions that he came home for me. I know that it was to be there for his sibling. With the loss of his sibling because of PTSD he didn't grieve him. He had to keep it together for his mom, other siblings, nieces, nephews, and oldest child. He says he stayed because of me and that he is tired of me not consulting my decisions with him. I'm really trying myself I was so used to doing things alone and making choices alone. I really want him to be happy.

I am being honest and involving him in decisions though it's almost 2 years into our formal relationship and a lot a lot a lot of arguments. I have finally woken up and grown up because of my faith. I know he is upset that I woke up this late because I think he has already started or probably has already detached himself the same way he detached himself from his wife, where he waited for the opportunity for an argument to walk out and now I fear he will do the same to me.

Right now he is on meds. Last month he seemed so much better and this month they increased the dosage, not good put him right back in the stupid hole! I hate this cycle of medications! He hasn't tried therapy while we have been together, he goes to the VA picks up his script and leaves. No talk therapy he hates it and he has been home from the war for over 8 years.

I know most of his distance comes from the things I have done that violated his trust in me. But I miss the the person he was when he reappeared in my life. (Back story I've known him since my very young years, and I already knew about his PTSD when we became a couple). It sucks that he rather have the companionship of his social media when at the beginning of our relationship he detested the way I was attached to my phone. He hated it so much I had to delete all my social media accounts from my phone and we made a bet how long I could go with out it.

I want to help him but I need help and support myself. I have helped him with a late night run to the Dr., making him what he likes, assisting every way possible, and any way he asks. (Fellow supporters never throw what you do for them in their face DON'T EVEN MENTION IT! Mentioned it to just point out how much I care and it was a never ending argument about everything). He talks to others all the time while here I am alone no friends. I have family but none understand. I can't talk to any one, no one understands me! He says that he sees that I'm tired of it. I am tired I'm not tired of him, I'm tired of feeling alone, disgruntled, depressed. So depressed at some points I've cut myself because I felt lost of everything that I said to him and hid from him to not hurt him.

Lost because he is my true love and first love. Hurt because if I would have made certain choices when I was younger and been there for him years ago he might not have gone through other things, but those choices gave me some of the blessings I have now. But hurt because when I thought I was protecting him I was hurting him. I just want to cry as I am typing this I am finally letting it all out crying for help and support because no one understands, and he will just never get it that I am hurting too... Please help me too.
 
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You sound like my x-gf I hurt with words and torched the relationship to the ground.

It takes two. From my side: we'd have to talk when I was not angry or depressed, in a more normal mood. Like I am now writing this, too bad I don't stay this way.

There are vet centers in the us too besides the va which is another resource and they do couples. I'd never think of group therapy. Lies and being forced are triggers.

Approach him with perhaps we could seek a vet center for help. Or we could maybe sit down and talk as I feel this or that. He has to feel he has options and that you are truthful.

He has to know where you stand and he has to know you'll support him 100%. My gf did and I still threw her away. Counselors are better trained than I.

Not easy on either side of this road.
 
Thank you keifer! But I don't know when to approach him when he is happy and normal I'm afraid to mess it up with my selfishness of needs. I don't know of any other veteran help centers ones that support couples other than married ones. I'm so lost. Don't want to say the wrong things. I have been giving him his space when he requests it but I will stop by and leave him a snack or a note to show I care but I don't know if that's over stepping either.
 
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Dear pastisgone, first: Welcome to the myptsd-forum! :)
Little did I know that a person with true or deep PTSD does not trust any one
I don't know, where you've got that from, but it's a very generalizing view, and it's not correct. Not everyone with PTSD has trust issues. But that's not the point I'd like you to look at, but the following statements of you are quite eye-catching, and I would say if you're really seeking help, you first have to face and to work an your own issues:
It took me a long time to see what I did to him and adjust my thinking to one of lieing to protect him to say the truth and keep his trust.
But I thought I was doing something good for him and for myself by lieing trying to portray and downplay my own baggage.
I've lied several times over to him because I did not want to upset him and didnt want to mess up the good image he had of me.
Why did you have to lie to cover your baggage? And what exactly is your "baggage"? Could it be that you, have abandonment issues and/or trust issues too? And where do your fears come from?
I'm tired of feeling alone, disgruntled, depressed so depressed at some points I've cut myself because I felt lost of everything that I said to him and hid from him to not hurt him.
but i need help and support myself.
You wrote that you had to cut yourself. Am I right to assume, that this wasn't the first time you cut yourself? Are you in therapy? May I ask, if you even have a diagnosis?

Pastisgone, I absolutely don't judge you. But I'm really concerned about your well-being. And your post reveals lots of your personal struggles, fears and issues. I really think, you should first seek help for yourself, and work on your healing, with the help of a professional.

As for your friendship, to try to build or to abide a friendship by telling lie after lie, I can only tell you, even a person who doesn't have PTSD, would have problems with trust you again, because of all the lies. And: If you have to lie, to abide a friendship, then there's something simply wrong.

Take care and be honest to yourself! It's really important for your own healing process.:)
 
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Why did you have to lie to cover your baggage? And what exactly is your "baggage"? Could it be that you, have abandonment issues and/or trust issues too? And where do your fears come from?

Didn't want to ruin the image he had of me. Baggage so much to list but boils down to selfishness to obtain nothing postive. I don't know whether I have abandonment or trust issues. My fear comes from loosing my one true love.

You wrote that you had to cut yourself. Am I right to assume, that this wasn't the first time you cut yourself? Are you in therapy? May I ask, if you even have a diagnosis?

Not first probably 3 or 4 times its not habit it was my outlet when I felt alone. No therapy I have contemplated it many times over. No diagnosis. I always boiled it down to me being frustrated, I guess.

As for your friendship, to try to build or to abide a friendship by telling lie after lie, I can only tell you, even a person who doesn't have PTSD, would have problems with trust you again, because of all the lies. And: If you have to lie, to abide a friendship, then there's something simply wrong.
You are right about being honest. Wanted to portray my situations were OK when they weren't and other stupid reasons where if I had been honest would have never led into bigger arguments.

I've finally started being honest with myself and accepting that even when I feel as if things are going to go sour the truth needs to be told from the beginning and not hide things.

Thank you for your honest opinion.
 
pastisgone, speaking as a fellow supporter, sometimes we have to step back and take care of ourselves. I'm in a state of confusion right now, too, over my sufferer's actions, though he is insisting that he is working towards changing and is in an in-treatment program. But sometimes we have to accept that other people have the right to choose not to take the path before them and instead to stand still. The important thing is that you do what is right for you.
 
Strongheart even when I try to do things for me and because I do not sit down and speak to him about the decisions. He gets upset. I love him and I feel that I only set off his triggers.
 
Hi pastisgone.

It is important to take good care of yourself, a lesson I have just been reminded of myself.

Going out and doing your own thing away from his PTSD, may set him off, but you have to do it for your own sanity, and he has to except that you have to.

My husband used to cling onto me like a limpet, scared of being on his own, but he has now got used to me going out and he does cope on his own quite well. He knows where I am and roughly when I will be back. It is giving me my sanity back, being away from him and his PTSD for a few times each week.

I feel that I only set off his triggers.

This is one thing he will have to deal with, not you walking on egg shells in case you set him off. You are not to know every little thing that could trigger him, and he has to learn that it's his responsibility to learn how to minimise the effect of what you do.

Its a hard learning curve and one you have to travel together, but it can be worth it in the end.
 
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Its been 24 hours I still feel.despair still feel lonely did the intake at the therapist. I locked myself in my car and cried. Is therapy even worth it?

They are clinicians, at a counseling center. Would that be good enough to help me, can they diagnose? I dont know I am confused already thinking about giving up with out sitting for a full appointment.

Theu suggested that I was depressed overwhelmed stressed and secondary PTSD. I dont even want to share it with my bf because I suggested it once and that didnt go well. I dont even think I have it. I just need to deal with my issues and I need support I dont think me being in his life will do him any better.

I love him so much and when he starts to trust me again I mess it up.
 
pastisgone, please keep the appt with a clinician. There are many issues that I can see here. At what point are your needs being met? At what point do you talk about what YOU need? What I can see, with my Sufferer, is that he has some terrible anxiety and control issues dating back to both Iraq and Afghanistan. He does a great job explaining how and why he got there, and he can take a step back and tell me how he feels, and know that he shouldn't be pushy, but he still tries to control. It's based on his anxiety. I'm right now working on trying to maintain a friendship with him despite this. However, I know as a Supporter, sometimes we get so focused on the Sufferer's needs, we forget that we are an equal partner here and have needs, too. You cannot let his anxiety control your actions, and the first step is to separate your needs from his. They all seem awfully blended here.
 
Hi pastisgone,

Welcome to MyPTSD forum! :)

Keep your counseling appointments and do what you need to do to take care of yourself. You cannot control what another person is or is not going to do, and the only control that you have is over yourself and what you choose to do. You have to be healthy to even begin to have a healthy relationship.

I hope you find the support here beneficial.

Take care.

Debbie
 
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