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Undiagnosed I Have Ptsd Symptoms After I Was Arrested During A Peaceful Protest Several Months Ago.

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I didn't know what the initials of the one group you mentioned stood for

Thank you Ill for the time you took to reply and for you caring. I have limited time at the moment and can not respond completely as this long thoughtful response merits.

A previous family doctor refused to sign a "this is a healthy person able to work" letter for me to do volunteer work for one week only at a camp for children. This is something I could have put on my CV (resumé). My current doctor said "okay" but only wants to know what the camp needs to know. This is what I meant by stigmitization in a prior post.

As for CLSC even I do not know what it stands for and I should - the C is for Clinique or Cliniques, I suppose. It is a system of govt. clinics in Quebec; Psychiatry here is rreally outdated......
 
... (continued) Psychiatry here in Quebec is really geared toward people with schizophrenia or bipolar disorder. Most English-speaking psychiatrist are from other countries and often have difficulties with English and do not understand my culture - sometimes I could not even understand because of an accent. Those who are culturally English Canadian go to the USA for higher paying jobs.

I found out that the support group with a psychotherapist will start in May, not April.

I have taken some online surveys and I pass all of them as having PTSD symptoms - the symptoms are getting better.

I am tempted to join students at a big protest this week but I knwo this is a bad idea. But I can observe from 3rd floor of a building nearby and have no contact with police and report on any brutality I witness. There will be arrests I am sure. We have an election soon. Quebec is not going to separate - forget that.
 
Amiquebec phone 514-486-1448. There is no way you can treat yourself if you have ptsd. This service say it treats many cultures with counselling services for all mental illnesses. Good luck I wish you the best for your diagnosis.

Most websites wont exemplify ptsd but it is a common psychological injury. You wont like my response but denying yourself treatment I feel would be a massive burden.
 
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They offer support groups, none specifically for PTSD that I know of. It is NOT therapy - only support
 
I volunteer weekly, and I've never had to have a doctor sign anything to say that I'm a healthy person able to work. I'm wondering if that might be specifically related to the kind of activity, especially if it was an overnight camp. I do think there might be other organizations you can volunteer with to build your resume that don't require such a letter. In my experience, most do require police checks, especially if you're going to be around children, but the police checks should only record convictions. You may want to explore other volunteering opportunities.

I'm in Ontario, and psychiatry here is like everywhere else - good with a good psychiatrist, bad with a bad one, outdated with a psychiatrist who's out of date. Every single one of the psychiatrists I can access for free are foreign-born. That's simply the way it is right now - most Canadian psychiatrists leave Canada or go into private practice, people from foreign countries are incentivized to come to Canada to practice, and it's probably even worse in the country they're originally from. But still - a psychiatric appointment may be useful in providing you with a diagnosis. You wouldn't need to see a psychiatrist regularly, and given that they largely exist to diagnose and dispense medication, it would make sense that they spend lots of time on schizophrenic and bipolar clients who tend to be on medications to treat their conditions. You don't want to utilize medications, so you wouldn't need to regularly see a psychiatrist for medication checks. I know it's not ideal, but few things in life are.

During your intake appointment, you can specifically request someone who speaks English fluently, who has lived in Quebec/has some knowledge of your culture, etc. You may not get what you ask for, but you may also be pleasantly surprised by what you do receive. But again - until you have actually accessed the care, you don't know for sure whether they can help. Even if/though you've accessed (or tried to access) care before. It's not a static system - new people, new ideas and new policies are introduced and the care that's provided can, and does, change.

Support groups exist because they can, and often do, function therapeutically (in the sense of having healing powers). I attended a group for stress and anxiety where the bulk of the members there had PTSD. In some ways, that group did more for me than therapy ever did, because suddenly it wasn't just my experience (or failure or fault) but a rational, sane response to some really awful things. It was elucidating to me in a way that therapy couldn't be. But had I simply dismissed this group in advance, without even making a good faith effort to try it, I wouldn't have known that.

You wrote that the original event happened several months ago, and also twice that the symptoms are getting better. How many months ago did the event happen? If the event happened within the last X months and the symptoms are getting better on their own, without treatment, then I think it's classified as an adjustment disorder rather than PTSD. I'm not sure if that's changed with the new DSM and perhaps I'm remembering incorrectly, but I do believe that was something I came across many times in my early days of research. I'm not attempting to minimize your situation, but I am presenting a possibility to you.

Another thing I'd like to suggest to you is that you seem to have a particular investment in believing that all of the avenues for health care are inadequate for the currently undiagnosed mental health issues you have. How can you know that in advance? Yes, it's hard, yes, it's imperfect, yes you will have to advocate for yourself - but that's what we all have to do if we want to get better. We have to do what we can with what we have - and while you may feel like what you have isn't good enough, I maintain that you don't know that yet *and* that I honestly find it hard to fathom someone who is complaining about their imperfect access to free health care on a board with so many people who have no money and no access whatsoever to any kind of health care at all. I'm not guaranteeing that you will get the care that you need and deserve (but I hope like hell you do), but I am saying that it rubs me the wrong way to have you scoff at the services that you haven't availed yourself of yet for this particular issue. How are these beliefs and approaches benefiting you? Are they benefiting you? It is a very hard thing to need and ask for help, but how are you any better off *not* asking for help you need? If you don't actually need the help, then would you be here and why? If you do, why not reach for it?
 
The event happened in October. There are a number of PTSD surveys online which I take from time to time. In February I was having a lot of strange dreams, a feeling of hypervigilance, and extreme insomnia. I still feel nervous when I see a police car. I last did a symptoms check 2 days ago and my score was 42 with 40 being the point at which medical care is advised. I do not believe that PSTD symptoms are a medical disease that needs to be treated by a doctor (I did get medical help for the insomnia which is getting better on its own) and I am okay to wait one more month before the support group specific to what I experienced will start. Thank you for caring and sharing.
 
If it happened in October and the symptoms have started fading on their own, then it's probably, hopefully, not PTSD. Which is not an attempt to minimize what you went through at all. Frankly, it would be a seriously good thing. And you may always be a little nervous about police officers because they have power and they can - and do - abuse it, and that was demonstrated all too clearly for (and on) you.

PTSD symptoms are physiological and impair all levels of functioning, and if you did or do have PTSD, unless you actually receive some form of treatment (which needn't be medical, I was always suggesting counseling/therapy), you would find that those symptoms would impair your ability to form and maintain relationships, to take care of yourself (and/or others), and hold down a job, amongst other things. PTSD doesn't go away on its own over time. That your symptoms are fading with time is a blessing/gift and an indication that it's not PTSD.
 
According to the diagnostic criteria, PTSD symptoms like mine more than 6 months after an event are PTSD. I think I do have mild PTSD, certainly nothing approaching what combat veterans have experienced.

Ar first I had mild symptoms for a few days after the event, then there were no symptoms at all but I was avoiding writing an account of what happened - our group is being represented in a class action lawsuit for what it is worth and this was asked of all who were there. Most of us are participating.

In February the group had a meeting and afterwards I walked to where the kettling happened (when police force people to stay in one place) as I wanted to measure the size - about 3 by 5 metres for about 30 people. Some were there for about 2 hours, others for less time as they processed us and wrote out our infraction tickets one by one. It is a $637.00 offense under a new restrictive municipale bylaw. It was after I returned to the scene that I started to have more intense symptoms. In February and early March it was the worse, now it is a lot less but I still scored 42 on the test I did a couple of days ago. I found the test at a PTSD Assiciation website that you can find if you google PTSD Canada. I would like to see my score go down to about 35 or lower. 40 is the point at which medical help is advised.
 
I do not believe that PSTD symptoms are a medical disease that needs to be treated by a doctor

This is hard to read, as someone who was diagnosed with PTSD and has had to do a great deal (including with doctors) to deal with it. Just wanted to let you know.
 
It is not a personal judgement on you. I think all with severe symptoms need medical help. But what do people do in places where there are no doctors available to treat PTSD? Or few experienced doctors? Anyway, I wrote that awhile back when I was reading a book that I no longer totally agree with, though the book makes some good points.
 
I'm sorry, sarafina, but you are making so many assumptions. There are no doctors available where I am to treat PTSD. And I have been diagnosed. It's called the UK and the NHS, and lack of funding. I have had to do all sorts of things to help myself and get the support I needed. If you seriously wanted to know what I did I would tell you, but I don't believe you are particularly serious or even that you believe you have PTSD any more. There is no such thing as mild. You either have it or you don't.

I don't understand the relevance of the book you're talking about.

I am perhaps asking you to be more sensitive to people to people who do have PTSD.
 
Sorry it has taken me so long to reply to you. I have been mildly depressed for weeks and not wanting to talk or write about my symptoms. There are more intense and less intense reactions to stressful events. PTSD is on a spectrum from mild to more severe symptoms (there are many online tests that ask specific details about symptoms - I pass all of them but in the lower ranges).

Where I live (Quebec, Canada) there is also little help available. And I am not enthusiastic about looking for a psychiatrist even if one were available to me. I am waiting to join a support group specifically for those having stress reactions to police brutality or harrassment or arrest. Recently my daughter was also kettled (herded into a group that was detained and ticketed) at an anti-police brutality protest. I did not go as I knew that everyone there gets kettled and ticketed and also because my primary focus for protest is the environment. She does not seem to have any stress reaction or PTSD symptoms but that could change in time. She was suprised by how the police dress and act like an army militia for young peaceful protestors.

I will get back to you about the book. I would give it mixed reviews. I do not recall the title at the moment and I should finish reading it before sharing more about it.

You do not have the right to judge me as serious or not serious or having or not having PTSD. There is not blood test or x-ray for diagnosis. I am going by the results of 4 online test I have taken thus far. All similar with slight differences. All telling me I may have PTSD and to seek help which I am doing as is available and appropriate in my area.

I would like others to be sensitive to me and not act as if there is a hierarchy of PTSD sufferers. We all are struggling in one way or another. Please do not nitpick about what I have said here imperfectly. I am doing my best!!! I wish you well!!!
 
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