Cured With Ayahuasca And Medicinal Plants.

[Justmehere]

You can have ALL the symptoms you have listed and STILL not have PTSD. You are currently missing several of the required criteria needed to have the diagnosis of PTSD.

About my PTSD symptoms. I have been self diagnosed.
I had lot of difficult emotions, difficulty and fear in being in everyday situations, that reminded the events, difficulty in enjoying.
I could hardly function because of all the time thinking and feeling the distressful past and present event.
Very disabling and distressing. unbearable. I did not have though psychosomatic symptoms

Self diagnosis of any major mental health condition is very dangerous. I believe your self diagnosis may have been incorrect. It is not likely that someone can develop PTSD after bad lasik unless they nearly died in the process. A painful medical condition is a painful medical condition and can lead to a whole host of mental health conditions developing, but unless you nearly died during the surgery, and you were awake to know you were about to die, it is unlikely you developed PTSD from the surgery or from the pain after the surgery.

Perhaps you have endured other significant trauma in the past, and developed PTSD from those past incidents, but it is not clear. None of us here can really diagnose either.

I'm not against medicinal herbs. I do not judge you for the use of them. I have used different ones than you with some mild success in helping the management of my PTSD symptoms.

You say that your emotional symptoms are gone, and perhaps this is true. It is a good thing if they are gone.

However, you really do not seem well at all by the way you write on this forum. It destroys your proposition that you were cured of all mental health conditions with these medicinal herbs. You write in a fashion that is similar to someone that is drugged or struggling with another major mental health condition. Maybe it is the herbs themselves affecting your thinking, maybe it is another underlying mental health condition - there is no way for any of us to know clearly what is going on for you.

I hope you consult with a trained professional in your country to assess your recovery from what you have diagnosed yourself with. You could feel even better than you do now.

If you choose not to do so, then that is your choice that you are free to make.

 

[Justmehere]

p.s. Since you believe the Mayo Clinic is a reliable authority on PTSD, and if you use their website, you agree to their terms and conditions....

On the terms and conditions page listed here: http://www.mayoclinic.org/about-this-site/terms-conditions-use-policy it states:

"Nothing in the content, products or services should be considered, or used as a substitute for, medical advice, diagnosis or treatment.... You should always talk to your health care provider for diagnosis and treatment, including your specific medical needs."

 

[Upside Down Eagle]

I don't get the reactions about him being a troll and getting out.

He said that he lived through some kind of traumatic event (so maybe it isn't PTSD, but apparently it was shocking for him), and that he now feels better with the help of ayahuasca and datura. He shouldn't say his "PTSD" was cured by it, since he doesn't know for sure if he has it all. But that doesn't make him a troll (a troll is someone with bad intentions).

This reminds me a bit about our other recent discussions about being supportive versus being challenging, but hey that's another topic.

@jivangilad purely out of personal interest (I have a friend who did an Ayahuasca ritual), how long ago was it that you did this ritual? My friend was all rosy and starry eyed for a month or so after doing the ritual, but it wore off.

 

[Deleted member 26214]

I actually do a session every week now.
It is true, that it raises mood for a few days after.
I take daily medicinal plants.
Those that are available for me.
I have used Melissa, rose, Rosemarie, and Passiflora for example.

I know i need much further healing, and I am receiving support, and looking for support.
I did experience a very traumatic event. I think it is difficult to measure how difficult something is until you experience it, and
I don't understand the death criteria . For everyone different events can be distressing, and it depends on many things.
Those who speak about the death criteria don't understand how much pain I was enduring, the abuse, the relevance to childhood traumas, and also that everything that happen to the eyes, tends to be exaggerated emotionally much more then the damage itself.
I think if I wouldn't have used the plants, I would have stayed trapped in this terrible mental condition.
I am sure that the plants can help in many things related to PTSD.
They can help cure anger, and negative emotions, and build inner strength. And I have experienced it.

 

[Upside Down Eagle]

Thanks for your answer.

while it's true that traumatic experiences are distressing for everyone, PTSD is an actual disorder that not everyone gets, even if they went through a very traumatic experiences. The others probably already told you, that it involves more than what you named, so it's understandable that they get upset. It's not that they are not willing to see that you went through a bunch of pain.

Nobody is denying that you did.

Sure, plants can help with some of the symptoms of PTSD. I use some herbs. But they are far safer than Ayahuasca... so to suggest that Ayahuasca can help with PTSD, nobody knows for sure. If it helped you in your processing of events, that's great.

 

[Deleted member 26214]

Also extra caution should be taken with hallucinogenic substances, for people with PTSD, since they are
very sensible. It can raise things too difficult to digest.
My wife had a trip on mushrooms, a year after her brother died, and it was a very bad trip.
People in sensitive mental condition should take extra care.
So small dosages, and competent guide are important.

 

[Friday]

About my PTSD symptoms. I have been self diagnosed.

It is an incorrect diagnosis.

I cannot insert a link, but this are the symptoms I found in mayoclinic .
All of the following symptoms I was feeling very strongly.
Intrusive memories
Avoidance
Negative changes in thinking and mood
Changes in emotional reactions

These symptoms are found in literally dozens of disorders, as well as a fair number of medical conditions. Picking any of the dozens of disorders at random is not a proper diagnosis. I do not doubt you may be mentally ill, but the likelihood of it being PTSD is extremely slim. As there is no CriterionA trauma.

Disorders & medical conditions share symptoms.

3 people with huge, rounded bellies, swelling/edema in the legs, hot flashes, sweats, cramping, discomfort, frequent urination, mood swings, lethargy, etc:
- Pregnant
- Tumor
- Kwashiorkor

3 very different diagnosis. Yet, some women want to be pregnant so badly that they will not get their tumor removed, or start eating protein... because they have decided it's not a tumor or malnutrition! It's a baby! I have all the symptoms of pregnancy!!! Well, most, perhaps. But the crucial symptom (a fetus) is not present. There are dozens of other medical conditions which also fit those symptoms (worms, gas gangrene, liver disease, hernia, etc., etc., etc.). Not just 3. The reason a proper diagnosis is important is that all of these conditions have different causes, and require different treatments.

Deciding you have PTSD, and then that it was "cured" by tripping... Is exactly like deciding you have cancer, and it was cured by giving birth.

 

[joeylittle]

Locking pending review.

 

[anthony]

Spam, nonsense.