Gender Now Requirement

[anthony]

For ease of identification, I have included a gender field within user profiles which is compulsary to select. You can simply go into your user profile by clicking [DLMURL]http://www.ptsdforum.org/profile.php?do=editprofile[/DLMURL] to make the selection.

Below all usernames will then have either male or female icon. That solves a lot of confusion often between members.

 

[batgirl]

Yeah that's a good idea, sometimes I was not sure which gender a person was, or I was surprised when I realized their gender. One thing though, what if a person is transgendered?? I guess they would just pick whichever gender they relate to most. Blah maybe that's a stupid thing to comment on, too picky maybe, but it's my mind because I met someone who was trans while in hospital, and this person considers themself both male and female.

 

[anthony]

I think your thinking too much about this Evie...

 

[batgirl]

Yeah I realize that now. Sorry just ignore me...

 

[Shinigami_Shimai]

I think it is a reasonable question considering a lot of trans do not associate with being male or female, and many end up with Trauma do to their situation. I'm accepting towards trans on my board and have found it becomes interesting because I have a female only section and sometimes have to really think about the situation involving those who do not think of themselves as either gender. It is something that has arrised a lot more recently here in Toronto. I mean I joined a group of lesbians for a "Butch/Femme" gathering and the first question I got asked was "Do you prefer Hy or She?" It really make me question my own gender confusion due to the fact that I'm very boiish and feminine in ways as well. The world is becoming less black and white with every passing day. A neutral gender my be needed in the future for all we know.

Sorry to ramble. Just needed to say something.

Jaa ne

Kat

 

[becvan]

Okay I'm sorry but a neutral gender? Unless you are born with no parts there is no such thing! Gender does not mean your sexuality. You guys are getting this really mixed up. We do not need to confuse ourselves further with a neutral gender icon. I completely disagree with that.

Also have a "just female" or "just male" section wouldn't be a great idea either. How the heck would we get a good, rounded out input if we all hid behind "gender" doors! Hell most women on here wouldn't associate with the males therefore not getting exposed to healthy, positive male interaction. Never gonna work past those triggers hiding like that!

I completely disagree with both things. Getting a little ridiculous with that.. too much PC for me.

bec

 

[batgirl]

You guys are getting this really mixed up.

Bec, maybe I am being sensitive and/or misunderstanding and if I am I apologize in advance. I really am stressed right now. But I hope by "you guys" you are not including me, as I resolved this issue within myself over a month ago. It was just a simple question at the time, I often have all kinds of questions and I think too much as Anthony pointed out. Please, I don't want to be included in this discussion, thanks. I just can't handle it right now.

 

[Shinigami_Shimai]

I only mentioned it because it has become a real issue out here in Canada. They are considering taking gender off birth certificates because gender has become so blurred and the neutral gender does exist and it has nothing to do with sexuality. It is something to do with different levels of transgenderism. But I guess it is something that people are not ready for around here. Sorry to bring it up.

jaa ne

Kat

 

[batgirl]

Actually for the record I do get what you're saying Kat, and I get what Bec is saying too, you both make good points. I have my own opinion on the matter as well, but I'm loathe to share it because I don't want to be challenged about it. I don't do debates well, especially when I'm stressed, hence why I said I was bowing out. Ok now I am really bowing out, before I put my foot in my mouth. :p

 

[becvan]

Kat: I happen to live in Canada too. And my opinion, is just that, my opinion. You never know what every one else is going to think so please to lump them all in.
However, gender is just gender. You are either one or the other (except for those rare individuals born with both!) And funny, I happen to disagree with it being a huge issue. But it would become a huge issue of they tried to remove gender! Everything we identify and class, starts out with gender. (not always a good thing! but we do have to start somewhere) If the government were to just remove gender for a PC movement? there would be major lash backs over that.

Evie: you guys: figure of speech! lol have no fears, I'm not lumping anyone anywhere! and no worries, I'm a little off myself too.

bec

 

[Shinigami_Shimai]

Well, the only reason I brought it up is because I deal with a lot of gender issues on my own forum and many of them end up wish PTSD because of they treatment they receive from society around them. I try to help them with their gender issues, but I can't help them with PTSD and they are too afraid that other groups would reject them for not wishing to be lumped into Male or Female. I was considering telling a few of them here, so thought I'd find out what reaction would be to gender neutral people joining. If they end up having to force themselves into a category it would not be good for them so I don't think this would be the place for them to come.

jaa ne

Kat

 

[anthony]

Kat, that is correct, being if they would be forced into categorizing themselves here, then here is not for them, no issue about that. I am not a PC friendly person, I am about commonsense though, and gender neutral is not commonsense IMHO, because the actual population born with both gender is so insignificantly small it does not get mentioned nor a requirement anywhere in the world legally speaking. Gay forums can do what they want, but we are not a gay forum, we are about PTSD.

I will not classify this forum to suit minorities, majorities, anything really. The simple requirement to state male or female is for nothing more than so people know what sex the person is because often it can be hard to interpret simply through online chat. I don't care if a female wants to be known as male because their gay, and they hold the male position within a same sex relationship, the simple fact is, if they have a virgina they are female, if they have a penis, they are male, end of categorization.

If a person is born with both, then they simply pick which they feel suits their personality uniquely, and not so much gender itself. I like commonsense... its functional and life works much better with it, compared to political correctness BS. I don't care if a person is male, female, hetrosexual, bi-sexual, gay or had operations and transexual... I don't care, because this forum will not make those discussions a primary topic, as this forum is about PTSD. If people want to primarily focus on gay, hetrosexual, whatever... they find the appropriate forum to discuss those issues and can be whatever they want to be. Here, PTSD, carer or friend of someone with PTSD, (Trauma specialists obviously have a purpose to be here) otherwise I don't want them here because they serve no relevant purpose to the topical conversation here.