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I'm Not Sure Where This Anger Came From.

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I have a severely low tolerance for unhealthy/overweight humans. A 300lb 10 year old child's parents purchasing him a burger with extra bacon on it within ear shot from me - instant feelings of hatred towards the enablers in his life. Would we know what bacon tasted like were it not introduced to us? Would we have a craving for an unknown product? A very large woman on the bus drinking a bottle of Coke, her shirt barely coming down over her apron of skin - I felt like cutting the excess fat off of her abdomen and mailing it to a distant 3rd world country with a brief written explanation of the contributing factors North America's selfishness plays towards their starvation. Things so uncontrollable to me should not cause such anger- yet I'm surprised in myself for not yet being physical in such a situation. Things that are so easily prevented, shows lack of care for spiralling out of control.
 
Yeah, I get this too. I dislike myself for being so judgemental. Perhaps having chronic pain and severe physical limitations since I was 29 due to the stress of the PTSD makes me really mad to see someone abusing themselves when they could have a nicely functioning body.
I think that's what it is for me. Really none of my business though.
 
I would ask why you personalise these things. We only feel real anger when we personally feel threatened by something. What about someone elses choices threatens you so much? Where did your value judgements come from too? This is not about these people and is about you.
 
I don't chew gum because the process of tricking your body into thinking it's about to receive food/nutrients..and then doesn't - secretes insulin, lowering your metabolism and causing you to store fat in your adipose tissue. This is one example, I over-think everything..but mostly it is me being hard on myself. I've acquired a healthy fitness/nutrional equilibrium with myself - so I judge the smallest things I'm lacking. But I just can't figure out how they let themselves get that way or do minimal to change it.
 
I feel angry when I see parents at fast food places buying food for their obese children. But I know this anger comes from having bad parents myself and wanting all children to be raised appropriately. I also feel angry when I think that 5% of the worlds population own 95% of the worlds wealth and greed is a huge problem in the world, while millions of people are starving to death. I just don't want innocent people to suffer. Greed and selfishness is not how we are meant to be.
 
DISCLAIMER: Okay, Let me begin by saying I will probably come off sounding angry on this subject. I am angry, which is unusual for me to begin with. But I am not angry at what people had to say as much as I am angry with myself for feeling the same ways at times(especially since I am overweight). So let me apologize first and foremost from the beginning.

when they could have a nicely functioning body

Just because a person is overweight does not mean that is what they chose. I'm overweight, now, because my body quit functioning nicely. I'm glad that you at least try not to judge.

I've acquired a healthy fitness/nutrional equilibrium with myself

I agree with Abstract that this lies with you. This equilibrium you feel you have achieved is great, for you. But why should you care what another is doing to their body. You get to choose what you do to your body. They should get to do the same. We all make unhealthy choices. There are also choices we make because we think they are "healthy" and the "best" way to treat ourselves, but that doesn't mean what we now believe won't change to show it didn't matter or it wasn't that healthy after all. This is the way life is.

I don't chew gum because the process of tricking your body into thinking it's about to receive food/nutrients..and then doesn't - secretes insulin, lowering your metabolism and causing you to store fat in your adipose tissue.

This is one example that not all medical establishments or nutritionists believe this. There have been some small studies that proved the opposite. So it really is a matter of choice as to what you believe. And, yes, I looked it up and read both sides. Won't say what I learned because I'm not here to force you to believe what I believe.

Here is the unfortunate thing for me right now, I am always afraid that people look at me the way you say you look at people who have not conformed to your way of thinking and it saddens me. It saddens me that you are so angry and it saddens me that I should worry about it. I grew up with a dad like that, except worse(being told, while growing up, that I would get fat like my mom and no man would want me. Btw, turns out that isn't true). I always treated my body healthy and it still failed me. Unfortunately, we can't always control things.

I am definitely overweight, I wasn't always that way. I'm sure my butt looks like I eat bad things on a daily basis. I don't and never have. I have one son like that, though he enjoys food(with my upbringing I truly don't). I have another who likes to do what I call garbage gut(eats things that are bad for you). I don't bring those things into the house, though his dad, who does work out, does from time to time. And, so everyone knows, my cardio doc suggested I watched what I ate and my sister almost jumped out of her chair to tell him that I do not eat a lot and I do not eat unhealthy food. Frankly, to get to the weight I am now at I wish I would have at least enjoyed my food or ate those bon bons or potato chips.

I have a chronic illness that really effects my ability to get exercise. I pay for it when I do exercise, sometimes being laid up for days. Not cool to do when you have young children. I do the best I can do and it is never enough.

My dad and FIL both have eating issues in their quest to be healthy. My dad still ended up with a triple bypass and my FIL had a stroke. Sometimes you do all the right things and it still works out against you. Yes, they are both physically fit and not fat.

I can't go places without thinking that people look at me like you look at people. My husband says that I look at myself as much larger then I am. I don't know about that. I know a fat butt when I see one.

So can you see why I'm so frustrated right now? Because I look at myself the way I believe others are seeing me...and, it's not a pretty picture. Nope not one bit.
 
Britt.F7, you don't need to justify your weight to anyone. It is wrong when people assume overweight people are just greedy people, who don't look after their bodies.

Everyone is judgemental in life about something. To say we aren't, is a lie. When it becomes a source of anger it is a problem.

It's not just overweight people who get hated on. During my 20's, I was very thin, about 48 kilo's. I ate a lot, but still never put on weight. I had to endure lots of negative and hurtful comments about the way I looked - and most often it was from overweight people. They thought it was perfectly okay to say comments like 'bag of bones', 'body of a teenage boy', 'too skinny' and refer to me not looking 'womanly' etc, but would have been deeply offended had I referred to their overweight bodies.

I have huge conflicting issues about my body and weight. And I have eating related issues due to abuse.

Due to decreasing activity and fast food, financial issues and people being time poor and many other reasons, has resulted in the figures for obesity soaring, particularly in children which is sad. And it's not okay - if and when it can be prevented and is not due to other medical illnesses.
 
you don't need to justify your weight to anyone

The problem is Shellbell, I can't even justify it to me or cut myself some slack.


'bag of bones'

Whenever I got too skinny (I was borderline anorexic for a long time), my mom would tell me my head looked too big for my body. My dad never thought I was skinny enough.

Of course this is the same mom who, when I started putting weight on(never mind that she was overweight my whole life),said that my butt looked like a shelf.

I have huge conflicting issues about my body and weight. And I have eating related issues due to abuse.

I'm right there with you Shellbell. I want to get the disparaging thoughts out of my head and not care so much what other's think. My dad no longer makes comments, but he did tell me the reason why is because he figures I know whether or not I'm overweight. Not sure if that was to make me feel better or not. I almost never eat when I am at family gatherings. I don't want them to think I'm a pig.

I just wish these monsters in my head would go away for good!

Thank you Shellbell for your kind words!
 
Britt.F7, I don't cut myself any slack either. Whatever weight I am is never okay, never good enough. Just like many people have told me. My parents and sisters used me as a 'fun game' of who could come up with the best nasty remark for me being thin. I was never allowed to protest. My worst abuser starved me until I was painfully thin and weak and used food as a reward for 'doing as I was told'. And many people have made horrible remarks - all of which stay stuck in my head. I still hate myself when I eat a lot. Still weigh and measure myself constantly.

I hope the monsters in all our heads go away!

We need to learn to love ourselves more and not allow others to be the measure of our worth, in any way.
 
I definitely didn't mean to offend, and Gary Taubes' book 'why we get fat' is a beautiful illustration of the exceptions of nationalities and predispostions to illnesses and fat storage. If you're not continuously feeding your overweight children extra bacon filled burgers, or seen drinking coke with a shirt half the size it needs to be then I would not judge. And yes it is my issue that I make complete strangers' business a concern of mine and cause for such anger. And the both of you have opened my eyes that pain effects lifestyles and stress does different things to different people. I am sorry for seeming harsh, I'm not skinny, not fat- just an obsessive over thinker.
 
We need to learn to love ourselves more and not allow others to be the measure of our worth, in any way.

Sometimes those negative voices are just so loud! Funny thing is, people wonder why I don't eat when I'm at my dad's...not that I think he's ever noticed. Hmmm, I wonder why! NOT.

Shellbell, I'm right there with you in what we need to learn and not allow and hope. Thank you!
 
I definitely didn't mean to offend

You didn't really offend me. I'm more offended that I look in the mirror and think of myself the same way you thought of those people. What you may project towards those others I internalize. I realize this lies in me and I have really got to get through this. On my last therapy visit my therapist said one of the things we need to work on is my belief that what you see on the outside makes what's on the inside worthless. Ahh tearing up again. I think I've hit a sore spot in me.

I had my first soda in four months. I'm trying to be really good...okay, obsessive. It actually felt like an accomplishment. Strange.

You only brought up what I was thinking about myself. No worries.
 
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