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Never Associated Memories?

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Today I asked my T "what if I never remember? (childhood years)" She said that it is possible that I never associated. I didn't think this was possible, since the memories *have* to be there somewhere. Have any of you ever heard of not associating? If so, how do you heal without processing the memories?
 
There are some memories that I don't know if I will ever completely have. I have emotions that don't match present circumstances and that is what I am focusing on healing. My responses that are out of place in my present reality.

Some memories have come back, some are fragments, and some I am not sure about. I am just focusing on getting better in the present and figuring out how to let the trauma that held me back let me move forward.

Healing is unique for everyone and it moves in stages. Just be open and receptive to what works for you.
 
She said that it is possible that I never associated. I didn't think this was possible, since the memories *have* to be there somewhere.
No they don't, as your therapist is correct.

Not all memories are recorded, and especially traumatic memories are not because most people lose focus, panic, dissociate and so forth during a traumatic event, thus the brain actually stops recording what is going on around them and is recording what they are doing.

Police are extremely familiar with this, asking eyewitnesses to an event to describe the car, often getting many different responses back. If a witness was holding a childs hand and the child was talking to them, yelling at them even, then their brain may actually be recording that, so they interpret events around them, not actually record them, as their brain didn't record what went on around them as the person was focused elsewhere. Some people can stay present, ie. highly trained persons, military, police, etc, who are specifically trained to not go into fight or flight mode, instead they're trained and rehearsed at becoming aware of their surrounding in which to make accurate decisions and obtain correct data on what is happening around them. Then they determine the course of action taken. Civilians do not have that training, thus they duck, turn away, run, etc, hear things that weren't related to the event, ie. hear 4 gun shots when only 2 where fired.

The brain records all five senses, though it interprets what it remembers based on the emotional significance. Higher emotions are recorded, lesser emotional events are not.

An underlying theory of memory which has much merit to it to date, is the memory is in three stages, being the first is stuff going on around you, present tense... then you have the second level where you memorise things that you use often such as phone numbers, birth days, etc... then you have the third level, being storage of long term emotional events, such as something from childhood, a year or two ago. You don't remember every aspect of the event, but you remember what you have chosen to remember.

Where therapy goes wrong is when you or another try and lead to rebuilding a memory, literally making things up that you don't have in memory to begin with. Even visiting a location, things have changed. Tree's may have been cut back, chopped down, a house renovated, etc etc... an endless list. It may trigger some memories, it may not, simply because they were not recorded at all.

End result, you work with what you have, not with what you want to have in memory. If memories exist, they may come back later in life, they may never come out because they may never have been recorded.

You can read some very interesting studies on this exact situation of memory, where they put all the people from a bank robbery in a room and interviewed them, obtaining their perspective. Then they showed them the actual video footage to prove memory distortions to the person of what they interpreted vs. what they actually viewed. Many people attempt to fill in the blanks in such interviews, instead of just saying the truth about what their actual memories are. Some have already convinced themselves what actually happened, and are in disbelief when they see a video of the event, citing the video is false... that is how much some people can convince themselves of something in such a short space of time, even though it is completely false to the reality.

Memory... it is a very tricky subject, and we don't memorise everything we see, feel, touch, taste or smell.
 
Thanks Anthony. This makes sense. I guess the memories don't matter as much as just knowing that the neglect and abuse happened. My therapist seemed to change focus when I didn't have memories, which concerned me.
 
My therapist seemed to change focus when I didn't have memories, which concerned me.
That is the correct course of action, otherwise your therapist could lead you and implant memories that are false, which is unethical.

They could have explained that to you I guess, but then that can be a distraction in itself within therapy and eat away at valuable time you could be doing more constructive work. Problem is... not explaining this has caused you to question it.

I would honestly say, if something is done in your therapy that you begin to question, write it down and take it into your next session and raise it at the start. This way, it doesn't distract the rest of the therapy session where specifics are focused upon, yet is dealt with between the two of you, which aligns your relationship as therapist client with greater significance.

It is hard with time restraints on therapy sessions though... considering the time it has just taken here to explore one point.
 
Yes, I don't have many detailed memories at all.

I only have a limited detail of being raped, and while I have recovered more, I still don't have a clear picture, and despite spending some time on it, he believes it more that likely I dissociated, and will possibly never recover any more.

I was abused by my mother physically, nearly everyday of my life from baby to 18 years, but I only have about 10 clear memories of things. I remember what happened in detailed general terms, enough to be told my childhood was highly abusive, as I remember what she did and how I was treated, e.g methods of being beaten, verbally and emotionally abused etc. but not individual details of incidents. I guess we don't remember everything that occurs with such regularity, for me it was just part of the standard routine of my day, it happened as often as eating, sometimes more.

I have certainly been able to process the feelings, and deal with how it's affected me now. I've always had a clear recall of my abuse from my mother, I just don't recall it clearly with visual or verbal detail. I processed it enough to stop the nightmares and waking with anxiety attacks.

I felt bad for not remembering more, I felt like I let that little girl down, who needed me to remember and never forget, but it's just not there.
 
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