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Relationship Not Sure What To Do With Combat Vet Bf

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My boyfriend is a combat vet; both Gulf Wars. He has told me bits and pieces but what I know is pretty grisly. He has been diagnosed with c-ptsd. He is working through the VA to get help, and he's only been home just under a year. We've been dating 7 months.

Let me say first that I really love this man. I am divorced myself, and neither of us are very young. We have had wonderful times, so much fun, and we share many many common interests. The best thing we share is our sense of humor and excitement over going new places and trying new things. If it weren't for the PTSD, this would be almost too good to be true.

That's the catch - the PTSD. Because there are times that he gets very irritable and paranoid. It is mainly when he doesn't get enough sleep or when there is an anniversary, and because he was in for 2 wars, there are many of them. He works a night shift, and long hours, so sleep is often an issue. We mostly only see each other on weekends because of our work schedules. When he gets into an episode, it takes very little to set him off, and then it escalates quickly into pretty awful accusations and name calling. The last time, he took himself to the VA hospital because he knew he was out of control, but before that he said some horrible things to me, including calling me a "user" and "self-centered bitch", and he seems to bring up all sorts of unrelated random things. Just raging at me. It's shocking. I'm not dependent on him or using him in any way. But as awful as I feel afterwards, he feels just as bad if not worse. It doesn't seem like there's anything I can say or do once he gets into this rage. It seems to be this pattern that has come up, where we disagree on something small, he blows it out of proportion, and before you know it, he's raging at me.

He says he is committed to getting help, and is now seeing a therapist. Unfortunately, it sounds like he has to relive everything before he can start dealing with it, and he is likely to be off-kilter before things get better. That is how he has described it to me. He is very good at explaining things, and he says that he doesn't even know where the things come from that he says. He says that he doesn't mean those things, that it comes out as automatic as loading a weapon during a firefight. He has asked that I give him time to heal, that I not give up on him, and he is working through all of this. But my question is, how can I act like the words he says to me were not said? What do I do? How do I forgive him, or do I?
 
The start of therapy is usually the worst from what I've been told and seen. If he's truly dedicated to making the dive into helping himself that's awesome! You do need some boumdaries though as what is and isn't acceptable behavior. PTSD can make it harder to control emotions and reactions but its still not an excuse for abusive behavior or language. Don't feed it. Walk away from the situation stay calm and come back later when everyone is calmed down(if its straight up abusive behavior just plain walk away).

I'm pretty lucky in that my vet has been in therapy and working on all this for quite some time. There are bad times usually based on miscommunication, but he has come a long way from when he was first diagnosed.

Communicate, set clear boundaries and stick to them, patience, encourage his therapy/progress, and most important take care of yourself!
 
Thank you, kahlan. Do you mind if I ask you how long your vet has been in therapy? And how long before he started being able to control the responses? I have a friend who, when she found out how long he's been home, asked "are you expecting miracles?" I try to remember that. I also know that I have to control my own responses, which is tough because it seems like he is deliberately trying to get a response when he gets that way. It's as though he wants things to get escalated in me to the same level of anxiety that he is feeling. I know I have a long way to go, though. None of this is easy. Your post just really helped because I think my biggest fear is that this will all escalate, not diminish as he keeps thinking it will with therapy.
 
Hardest thing for me is to resist jumping into an argument and instead biting my tongue and staying calm but that's what has to be done. Don't feed the beast. It takes practice to detach yourself from a heated situation but it can be done :)
 
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Hey there! I understand what you mean about the name calling and such. My guy has called me a little bit of everything from a bitch to a slut and even threatened to have me arrested if I came near his house...Ugggh! That last one was tough on me. However still through it all I know what he said but I also know how kind he is underneath all that. My friends ask me why do I want someone like that? My response is "Someone like what? A person who has been through things that we can't even imagine." I don't condone his behavior but nobodies perfect and we all say things in a heated moment some of which you have to be careful because they can destroy a good thing. Still yet, call me stupid but the tiny moments I get to talk to him and he's so sweet or funny...well I just love him. I don't think he means to be mean to me and I'm no walk in the park haha but then again we've both been hurt pretty bad. I hope things get better for you:)
 
Hi...I am a female and a combat vet with c-PTSD... so hopefully I can try to bridge some gaps for you...

He doesn't remember the things he said to you. You will have to tell him, and I will tell you why...I know now that when PTSD hits - the main reptilian "survival" parts of your brain all take over, your body is flooded with insane endorphins and hormones...and ALL parts of your frontal cortex turn off. It's a human survival thing...from way back when we had to run away from bears or tigers or such... It is what soldiers and warriors have to do in the middle of combat to survive. My family has told me that they at first thought I had turret syndrome when I came back. I have been deployed 3 times - the last was the worst. My sister said that she didn't even know that such creative swear words were in exhistence. I couldn't tell you what those swear words are because I don't remember them.

when you do tell him - he will be embarrased and ashamed... BUT...it is better than having a blank hole in his memory. Let him know that you still love him. he needs to know what he said to you - even if he doesn't want to know...

Every time he has an episode...tell him later what it was like for you. As hard as it is for him to hear it - he needs to hear it because otherwise he won't have a memory, but won't tell you... and NOT knowing is way worse than knowing... I bet you know this - being a supporter of a military guy and all...all the nights of not knowing - horrible.

I hit spells all the time, then I have to ask my family what the heck I was doing the last 4 hours. It usually isn't nice. I feel an immense amount of remorse for when I go off - sometimes pretty bad depression, too. Especially when it makes me feel really different than "normal". But even my remorse is better than having a big black space and time where I was absent...

I guess the bottom line is...Please give him time to heal - especially if he is willing to see a therapist and get help. HOWEVER...Do NOT put up with verbal or emotional or other abuse from him. If he is spouting off, tell him you love him and then leave. For reals...just LEAVE...have a plan in place...a friend or whatever. Tell him you will come back in X hours. If he puts you in an actual life threatening situation, call the cops. I know that sounds mean, but actually it will only help in the long run.

When he is going off, he is not with you. He is in a place that few even want to imagine - people say to me all the time "thank you for your service" - but they really have no idea of the violence I have seen or had to do just to stay alive. I don't ever want to talk about my stories - I don't know why. but please, please...if he is threatening real violence to you or to himself...just don't mess around... He was trained in real violence...he knows real violence - if he is in a spell and "threatens" violence...he is not kidding with you. Just call 911.

Finally - SLEEP. You...Him... both of you won't get well until you can do this one word... 8 hours...UNinterupted.... Every night for like a week - even two!!! PS. We don't sleep in combat...ever...it is something he will have to learn to do or get medicine for...
 
Thanks for sharing that with us. That makes me really sad to even think about what he's been through. I can honestly say that before I met him, I too would tell vets " thank you for your service", but NOW after really thinking what they go through and that they more often than not come back as a different person has completely opened my eyes and I truly have such respect for these people. It's just such a shame that they step up and go through this nightmare and it doesn't really end when they come home:(
 
It can get better, with treatment, and hard work, and time. My hub has been diagnosed as a sufferer of combat PTSD for about 7 years now. At first it was like living in a nightmare. When he first started treatment, it got much, much worse. He locked me out. He called me all sorts of names. He threatened me. He did try to hurt me (awake because he just wanted everything to go away and he lashed out, (I defended myself, and afterwards told him so there could be no uncertainty that if he ever did it again, I'd call the police so fast his head would spin), and he tried to kill me in his sleep because he was in the midst of a nightmare / flashback). It was harder than most of the people I know can imagine.

But then, slowly, it started to get better. It took a couple of goes for him to find the right therapist, but it improved. Now things are so much better. He still bottles things up, he still has trouble sleeping, he's still not the best at dealing with stress, he still gets angry, but nothing like on the scale things were for a while.

He has asked that I give him time to heal, that I not give up on him, and he is working through all of this. But my question is, how can I act like the words he says to me were not said? What do I do? How do I forgive him, or do I?

I can't decide for you whether to forgive him or not - that's something everybody has to decide themselves.

But for me, I forgave him because I knew it wasn't really him. I forgave him because it wasn't really about me. I forgave him because I love him, and because that's not who he is when he's not in enormous amounts of pain.


Of course, all of this is coloured by the fact that I put him through at least as much as he's put me through, because (as I've just found out), I have PTSD too, and have had all along. It means I tend to deal with things badly sometimes. As does he with me.
 
Artemis, you really know what you're talking about! He has told me much the same of what you have said. He is really wonderful about all of this, and trying to get better. Things did come to a head, and he is getting excellent therapy now. Also, I am learning more about his perspective. And he is getting better about telling me when the anxiety hits, instead of just acting out. This is tough - but I love him with a much deeper love than I imagined as we work through these things. It really is a challenge, but I believe it's worth it. However, ask me again the next time he's in one of his survival modes! ;)
 
Oyy.. I wasn't good at staying calm. He called me something and I got mad. Have PTSD myself. Never had that much time around each other.
 
Well, things got much worse tonight. After 3 days of arguing, and me ignoring most of his texts today just because they were meant to provoke, tonight he blew up. He was at my house and just lost it at me when I asked him to leave. He got physical with me and hurt my arm. Unfortunately, my neighbor got involved because when we were in the garage, he was preventing me from opening the garage door so I started screaming and she heard. She asked if I was okay and I said no, to call the police. That's when my now ex-boyfriend said he'd get his sh!t and leave, which he did. But he made a scene in my driveway and later came back to break a beer bottle on my driveway, putting glass everywhere. I can't believe how awful this was, and how bad I look now to my neighbors. He called me all kinds of filthy names, then called my daughter to tell her we were finished, freaked her out, and then said he was committing suicide. Just awful times tonight. I contacted the VA help line, which I strongly suggest, and they had a counselor call him. This is, I guess, what they call a bad breakup! Ugh......
 
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