Please don't use olanzapine

[Friday]

Your story isn't anecdotal,

Slight correction, here :

All case studies, individual experiences, & personal accounts are anecdotal. That the definition of anecdotal.

Anecdotal doesn't mean wrong, untrue, or even uncommon, or not evidenced. In fact, anecdotal evidence is it's own thing, and often carries a great deal of weight. But it does mean that the worst drug for me, may very well be the best drug for you; both are factually correct, as neither statement makes the other statement untrue, nor says anything about the drug itself. Because we're talking about individual experiences. My story, your story, his story, they're all anecdotal.

 

[bento]

@Super CoolTM It's good to share your experience with meds. Even if atypical. It might
help someone else who is experiencing similar effects.

I spent a few years w/misdiagnosis of depression and was given a whole slew of different meds.
One had a small but still significant incidence of liver toxicity. I began having symptoms and
my Dr. was totally dismissive. In fact, she decided somewhat perversely to up the dosage
in case my symptoms were indicative of not being at therapeutic levels. I ended up in the
hospital. When I sought a second opinion, I was told my dosage was appropriate for a 250lb
male (I was 130lb female). I ended up with mild liver damage. Had I known about this
possibility I would have sought a second opinion sooner. So, again, it's good to share our experiences.

Because of that experience and a number of others, I'm now fairly anti-med., but that is a
stance that does not work for others. Eg I tried benzos a number of different times, but
because of side effects and a temptation to use them in non-prescribed manner, they were
a no go for me. However they seem to be a lifesaver for others. We're all so different how
our bodies will respond, it's very important to remember that.

I have found that with good "sleep hygiene", good
hydration, exercise, eating mostly Paleo, and making sure I get out and socialize, a majority
of my symptoms will dissipate (I also do zero drugs/alcohol) I also have to be vigilant to
steer clear of avoidable stressful situations and people. Trouble is of course when
triggered, this is a tough as hell regimen to follow. So I share my experience here, but it
comes with a pretty heavy caveat. If you cannot follow it closely, you are left with nothing.
And of course no guarantee that it will work in the first place. Just my experience for what
it's worth.

 

[Sideways]

PTSD symptoms usually include a constant but variable ringing in the ears (nerve misfire from trauma, not tinnitus);

Is this for realises? My ears are fine...???

 

[Cyberluddite]

Is this for realises? My ears are fine...???

Research at the Swedens Karolinska Institute found that it involves the limbic part of the brain, which also deals with handling stress. Depending on the severity of the stressors that trigger the PTSD reactions, the ringing volume varies.

Which explained why it's louder in my ears when I'm not staying on top of resting, eating, or maintaining a calm environment. Then again, I've been through a lot so as you and Friday rightly mentioned, not everyone has the same experiences or same amount of the experiences.

I apologize if I erred in using "anecdotal". It's a word that gets used too often on the internet to shut down arguments that raise questions. I accidentally got triggered when @Super CoolTM was told he was making blanket statements that did more harm than good.

I understand why it was said to Super. It's still something that makes me twitchy too. Hence the "most doctors don't do it" part. CBT has been helpful, but I still need some work.

Everyone's patience and understanding is greatly appreciated.

 

[Suzetig]

PTSD symptoms usually include a constant but variable ringing in the ears (nerve misfire from trauma, not tinnitus); schizophrenics only develop tinnitus, like regular folks without PTSD.

I've been diagnosed with PTSD and have never experienced ringing in my ears. Maybe my GP, psychologist and therapist were all wrong and I don't have PTSD. Or maybe I'll go with the diagnostic criteria in the DSM 5 or ICD 10.

Your process for diagnosing PTSD as opposed to schizophrenia is as much shit science as it dangerous. Anecdotal evidence is just that - one persons experience, it carries weight only is as much as it shows what can happen sometimes, not what happens all or even most of the time.

 

[Cyberluddite]

So if you see me disappear for a few days, it's my way of coping. I don't know as much as I'd like to about PTSD, and the six weeks since I joined the community have been... overwhelming at times.

Educational, too. Lots of love to you guys.

 

[bento]

That's really interesting, I'll check out that reference. I have severe tinnitus and hearing loss
on one side. I always wondered about the stress aspect--it first appeared after 6 months of
insane stress. Dr's chalked up to circulation issues and prescribed drugs and low salt diet
which did not help. I find coffee makes it worse as well as stress and poor diet.

I should state that my tinnitus is variable (altho that might be obvious from my post)
But I also thought all tinnitus was variable. Is that not the case? Just curious.

 

[Cyberluddite]

I've been diagnosed with PTSD and have never experienced ringing in my ears. Maybe my GP, psychologist...

Can you please rephrase that in a more civil, professional tone appropriate for a moderator?

 

[anthony]

I am going to warn everyone, this is an opinionated thread with little medical fact assigned to it. My advice for all involved is to express your opinion as such, and do not attempt to cite some rubbish material from a blog or other unreliable website as though fact. Another's opinion supporting your own does not create fact.

One study does not create fact either. Express your opinions honestly as such, your opinion. If you have fact, by definition, then cite the source claiming it, and try to limit your opinion mixed with it, if exists.

This threads topic is "Please don't use olanzapine" which is a persons opinion. Not fact about a medication.

 

[Super CoolTM]

I've successfully been off of olanzapine (the last anti-psychotic medication) since June 9, 2015;...

Thank you so much <3

 

[Esterio]

Never mind guys. I just wanted to help but I see I was wrong

You did help out a lot you started a conversation that to me looks like it is an important one. Everyone is different and so we need all the info we can get about medications positives and negatives. I value your opinion Thanks for the thread.
Peace be safe

This threads topic is "Please don't use olanzapine" which is a persons opinion. Not fact about a medication.

Thank you for pointing this out it is just someones opinion and their experience not fact.
Peace be safe

 

[lostforgottensoul]

PTSD symptoms usually include a constant but variable ringing in the ears (nerve misfire from trauma, not tinnitus); schizophrenics only develop tinnitus, like regular folks without PTSD.

I think what you mean is Hyperacusis or misophonia or did you actually mean ringing in the ears?

And those two aren't "usually included" things but common synptoms to have with PTSD. So millons have PTSD and don't have sound sesitivity but the reason many (like myself) do is because of PTSD.