News Son Convicted Should Serve No Prison Time For "20 Minutes Of Action"

[Deleted member 28740]

People will do/say the craziest things in order to protect their children.

Parents also do the most F*d up things to destroy their children. Case in point. Using your assets to get the best trial you can, understood even when the plaintiff has limited or no $$$$ resources is par for the course. What about this young man's childhood led him to sexual assault under these circumstances? No one is rarely held accountable, and the 20 minutes of ACTION speaks volumes. Better than a corpse I guess and didn't have to pay for it.

 

[Deleted member 28740]

If this case was even slightly out of the ordinary, I'd get myself worked up about it.

The case is very much out of the ordinary. How many assaults are brought to trial in the US? How many with convictions? Very out of the ordinary.

 

[EveHarrington]

This case is not out of the ordinary in that it's a continuation of injustice for sexual abuse & rape survivors.

Thus--------abnormal vs normal is all a matter of perspective.

I happen to be of the view that this is par for the course; much of the same; nothing completely out of the ordinary.

 

[Deleted member 28740]

He is submitting an appeal...

Yes, and the tax payers will carry that burden too. And the victim will be on trial again.

Palo Alto Online reported that Turner plans to appeal his conviction and will be represented by Dennis Riordan, a well-known San Francisco appellate attorney.

 

[Deleted member 28740]

I happen to be of the view that this is par for the course; much of the same; nothing completely out of the ordinary.

Why waste effort on yawning replies? The world is paying attention to this case.

 

[Sideways]

@Changeling - unfortunately, when it comes to sentencing, the attitude demonstrated by the court in this instance is, sadly, pretty stock standard. And while I applaud those making as much noise as they can out of this particular case, I can't afford to hold my breath and hope for revolutionary change. Despite mountains of effort going into changing jurisprudential attitudes to sex offender prosecution and culpability since the 1980s, including the enactment of rape shield laws and anti rape myth laws, the status quo persists.

Like I said, I applaud the revolutionaries, but I personally don't look to our legal system for hope at this point in time. The criminal justice system is not an ally for victims of sex offenders.

 

[Deleted member 28740]

The criminal justice system is not an ally for victims of sex offenders.

Judges are elected. On higher circuit offered positions. How does it change but from the bottom up. Pun.

 

[Mafia_Science]

The whole thing is sickening to me. To think he only got 6 months for something that will affect the girl for the rest of her life. Think if that were a non-white, non-Stanford swimmer person. Think about how much more severe his sentence would be.

The titles to all the stories on this incident are wrong. It's not "Stanford swimmer," I don't give any f***s that he's a swimmer, it should be "Stanford RAPIST."

 

[Neverthesame]

Twenty minutes.
20 minutes.
20 mins.

What sort of things can happen in that amout of time?

• The amount of time for me to travel to work everyday.
• The time required for a life flight helicopter to get in the air. To attempt to save a life.
• A coffee break.
• The amount of time for an ICBM to travel from the former Soviet Union, to detonate it's nuclear payload on US soil.

Some things that take far less time. But still can have terrible consequences.

• 4 minutes: The amount of time for a fire in a home, to grow from something that can be patted out, to flashover. (when the unburned particles that are floating in the black smoke filling the room, autoignite from the heat).
• 10 minutes: When exposed skin suffers frostbite in our lovely Canadian winter. (On a nice day. It can take far less than that, when it's actually cold out.)
• 1 minute: For an unattended child to drown in an inch of water.
• 10 seconds: For someone to break into a car and make off with anything valuable inside. (Without breaking a window.)
• 0.5 seconds: The thing that brought me to this forum.

When the victim said how she went to the toilet, reached to pull down her underwear, only to realize she was no longer wearing them. That must have been a horrible realisation.

All alone, in a bathroom in a place she doesn't know how she arrived at. Surrounded by nothing but strangers. Can't imagine how that must have felt.

That Dad, can take his "20 minutes" garbage and shove it straight up his own ass.

He'll get no sympathy from me.

Maybe he should have spent more than 20 minutes raising his child?
Then maybe, he wouldn't have to be making excuses for his inhuman behaviour.

 

[Sideways]

Having decided that yes, the judge should lose his career over this, and dad should get a good serve of working in a womens shelter for a reality check, what then?

It was 17 years ago I got raped in my dorm on campus by (wait for it) a rugby jock. And it was pretty normal back then.

And it's pretty normal now.

What are our universitys, the institutions of our highest learning, actually doing about this culture, which seems to be par for the course for female uni students the world over? Given the money they make from students, what are they doing about the fact that one of the most heinous crimes known to man is now a normal experience for female students?

This isn't Backwater Central University we're talking about. This is Stamford. The world's best minds come from campuses just like this one, where rape culture is as much a "part of life" as a laptop and a library pass...

 

[EveHarrington]

Why waste effort on yawning replies?

I'm entitled to my opinion and I'm entitled to share my opinion in this thread.

You can yawn at me all you want but it doesn't bother me one bit.

I don't understand why people try to silence those whom they do not agree with.

Agree to disagree. Use constructive rebuttals that discuss the facts. Jumping on someone because you think their reply is yawn inspiring (boring!) seems pointless to me, and a bit uncalled for. I thought this thread was a discussion not a see things from one side only kind of deal.

Don't like what someone says? Just move on. Take what you want; leave the rest.

My reply is indeed on topic. I'm replying to the OP who doesn't agree with my opinion.

 

[Deleted member 28740]

@EveHarrington I read somewhere on the site that the OP is responsible for keeping the Topic on point.

When a serious Sexual Assault legal issue does finally get attention and promotes public attention and the will to change the system as it works I will work hard to bring attention to that issue. The assault itself is 'nothing extraordinary' happens every 2 minutes in the US. This case is different in that is does national and international attention to the legal issues.
How the University system fails assault victims.
How the Judicial system fails those that come forward seeking justice.
How sentencing is handled.
How judges are elected and is justice meted out fairly.

https://www.rainn.org/statistics
Every 2 minutes an American is sexually assaulted.
And every 8 minutes, that victim is a child. Meanwhile, only 6 out of every 1,000 perpetrators will end up in prison. And that of those that are brought to trail. !!!!!!!!

I happen to be of the view that this is par for the course; much of the same; nothing completely out of the ordinary.

Yes, you are correct it has been par for the course. How to change how sexual assault is handled judicially is the issue.