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littleb

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I just wrote a big long post, and hit backspace and it deleted it all, so I will attempt to re-write it, even though I feel like chunking my laptop out the window right now :mad:

I went to a psychologist, she said I had a big fat case of PTSD (thats her words exactly). She said and did and implied somethings that made me uncomfortable with her, or maybe I'm just uncomfortable talking to anyone, and my lack of comfort made me seek things about her I didn't like....I really dont know. The point is, I didn't go back for the second appointment, even though I know I really need professional help.

I'm a survivor of prolonged physical/sexual/verbal/ and religious (although that feels wrong to say, I know now it was) abuse. My dad was a vietnam war vet who never recieved help for his PTSD (and perhaps other mental illnesses, its hard to say what all was or is wrong with him). He was physically and verbally abusive and threatened his life, my moms, and ours (my brothers and I's) lifes several times before I was 5. I remember that all very well. When he finally left us for good, it was the chirstmas of my 8th birthday, and my mom was battling a terminal illness, but didn't know it at the time. She went in and because they didn't see anything she was put on anti-depressants which made her worse. My dad, even though he left us, would come back when we'd go to school, literally when we'd get on the bus, he'd drive up to the house, and threaten her, saying if she ever divorced him he'd kill her and bury her in the woods, one of his favorite threats. We lived far away from everyone, and as I said, he had threatened us all many times, it seemed plausible that he'd do it one day. So my mom, eventually, took my brothers and I and moved in with some folks she met on the internet, more or less she ran away. She met a guy online at about the same time. Ended up moving several times, when she finally got a place of her own, within 6 mo's she lost it and we were homeless. My brothers were sent back to live dad although really they lived with my grandparents and would only come to live with dad after a couple years. I refused to go, because I was terrified of my dad, and being that I thot that's where we were living (with dad) I couldn't do it, I was terrified of him. So I begged and pleaded to be with my mom, even though we didn't have any place to stay. She let me. Then thats when this guy she met on the internet comes in to play. Lucky us, he turns out to be a pedophile and online predator. He abused me, and various other people and children, sexually, physically, mentally, and (again I hate saying it but i know its true) religiously or spiritually however you want to call it, this went on for me from the time I was 10 until I was 18, at which time my mom had him forcibly removed from the place we were staying. We moved around a lot after my dad left, and there was no constant in my life BUT abuse, it varied in kinds of abuse, but it was all abuse. My entire life I had to hide this perv's "lifestyle" as my mom him and his goonies put it, he was into bdsm and so therefor it was ok to beat and sexually humiliate people, make them your slaves. Anyways, there were a lot of people, and I had to cover for them, telling those who saw them (the few that saw in passing as I wasn't allowed to have friends) that they were family or friends of the family that were "having a rough time". Ofcourse we moved around so much that I didn't have to lie long or defend the lies often as, we'd only be in one place for about a year or so before we moved again. from one slum to another.

I've been out on my own for almost 2 years now. I didn't move out of my moms until I was 20, and something about being there with her, even though she had him removed when I was 18, kept me in denial of it all. She always turned a blind eye to what happened to me, my mom, so I think it kind of wore off on me too. Like if it wasn't important enough for her to pay attention to than it wasn't important enough for me to either. When she had him removed, it was for what he had done to her, there was no mention of what he did to me, and anytime I brought something up that he did, things he had done in front of her no less, she said she didn't remember (not calling me a liar, but not accepting the truth either). Anyways, it wasn't until I moved away, into my own place that it hit me. I immediately became an alcoholic, but I didn't see it like that. I was 20 going on 21, I thought it was acceptable to drink like I was, which was everyday after work all evening till I passed out. I eventually, somepoint after turning 21, said I should stop, afraid I'd end up an alcoholic like my dad. When I did, it really hit the fan. I thought I was insane, that I had totally lost my mind. And I googled all kinds of mental illnesses trying to figure out what was wrong with me, and eventually stumbled on a adult survivor of child abuse site. A lot of info, couple of forums, so i try to "fix it" on my own, and things continued to landslide downhill and out of my control. I was having panic attacks and flashbacks but I didn't really know thats what it was. I didn't know what it was. I eventually made an appointment with a psychologist, the one I previously mentioned, who said I have PTSD and now I can't seem to get myself to go back.

I feel like eveything I do, I have to fight myself to do it. I've been reading on PTSD since I got the diagnosis, and, its all pretty confusing really. I guess most of it applies to people that were in one time truamatic incidents, where my whole life was "traumatic" although I still have a hard time saying that. Again, probably because it was made out to be "not a big deal" at my house, with my mom atleast, when it *was* a big, huge deal. I've never had a "zest for life", never had friends, never had hobbies, have always been emotionally distant (for lack of better way to put it). I used to cut myself, self harm, and I stopped doing that when I started "losing myself". I've read some on dissassociation, and it all sounds a whole lot like me, a lot of the sympotoms are the same, but I'm not a dr, so would need to see another one and talk to her (as it has to be a "she" for me to be able to talk about it at all) before I would really know if I had any kind of dissassociative disorder of sorts.

AND thats the thing, I need to go back to a Dr. but now feel I can't. The one I went to first I owe money to, I am consequently going through bankruptcy now also, and so I dont think or wouldn't feel right anyways, about going to another dr. When I went they tried to send me to rehab to which kind of flipped me out a bit, even though, I know I need it, not because I'm addicted to any one particular thing (other than tobacco as far as real chemical addictions go) but because I never really learned how to cope or communicate or whatever it is normal people do when they hit hard times. The only thing I've ever known to do, since I was 12, was drink or do drugs to make myself not feel so bad, didn't necessarily make it feel better, but not *as* bad. Anyways it scared me, because rehab threatens to take away the only thing that made me not hurt so much all these years. That change-resistant part of me, hates the thought of losing that, but the other part of me, is horrified by the thought that i'd be this way forever.

Basically it feels like what little was left of this torn tattered world of mine has blown up to even tinier unrecognizable pieces, and I dont know what to do. I can't remember much of what happened really, for my whole life, its just little bits and pieces of bad memories, not even all of those memories either, just bits and pieces of bits and pieces. So I can't even go back through and try and "deal with" those issues and how it all made me feel, because I dont really know a whole lot about it myself. I don't remember. I remember say the begining of the fight, but not the end, or the end but not the between. Or I just remember how I felt and nothing else asides from that. Its all really confusing, hard to explain.

I've not been able to talk to my family, my grandparents, my dad (i have anxiety attacks just trying to leave him a voicemail) anyone of the very few people I've known in my life. The one friend I had, and my fiancee, I'm withdrawing from but I dont know how to stop from doing it. I dont have a life, I never have, I dont have a personality either unless you count self destructive behaviors as "personality traits". I am very protective and self sacrficing for the ones I love, but asides from that there's no "me" to speak of, no sense of identity, no likes or dislikes really, other than my hate for the abuser, and how wrong people seem to be.

I know, if I were to talk (which I dont do often) that I would be, or am, a depressing person to be around. How I managed to have the one friend I have and my fiancee still blows my mind. They swear im a great person but I dont trust them. They both swear they'll "lend me their ears" if I need to talk but I feel like their lying, I beileve that they want to be there for me, but they dont really want to "know" about it. Part of me says its not their burden to bear anyways, and I dont want to tell them because they'll look at me different. Not that they wouldn't like me for it, but that I'd appear dirtier to them I guess. But then I try to talk to a Dr., an unbiased 3rd party, and I had such high expectations for that because I've also been real protective over my mom, so I dont want the 2 people that know me, and her, to look at her badly, so I thought "*finally* here's my chance to say the truth" and I lie. I couldnt come out with the whole story for one, and i wasnt honest about how I feel, or about the pieces of this that REALLY scares me, and I don't know why, if I'm afraid they'll take me away or something? I dont know, but the one time I tried, I failed horribly at saying what I really wanted to say, what I meant. Now I'm trying to get back, to atleast A Dr. if not the same Dr. and (money issues aside) can't figure out how to do it.

I feel like I've been pushin as hard as I can push for months now, and have only produced very little change, and its become disheartening. I'm at the end of the proverbial rope. I'm tired of being tired, of fighting all the time, I just dont know what else to do. I have to fight *myself* tooth and nail to do anything. I swear its like there's an evil me, waiting to undermine any "good" thing I do for myself.

It took me 4 months to work up enough courage to tell my man I thot I was having some issues with my past and that I was trying to deal with it. It took me another 4 mo to work up the courage to go see a dr and let my man know that I was going to go get professional help over it. I am worried that no matter how much I want to change, that it may never happen, or take too long.

There's got to be others out there that have made it through what I'm going through now? Maybe some advice? Regardless, thanks for listening to me.
 
Welcome.

I'm glad it didn't take you any longer to realize that you were headed down a path of denial and shoving things down with alcohol. I am 37 yrs old and was diagnosed this year with C-PTSD from childhood abuse (sexual and neglect - there may be more). I spent YEARS pretending that everything was "ok" - using drugs and alcohol to stuff down my pain and to ease my social anxiety (fortunately, I never used in front of my children). Eventually, enough additional life traumas hit me and I literally almost fell apart. I tell you this to let you know - unfortunately, all of this is very normal and you are very strong to be able to see it now.

I'm not sure where you live - if you are in the US - I would contact your local county mental health center and see what resources they have available on a sliding scale basis. Also, check with some local churches in your area - my mom is seeing a counselor in a church (during non-church hours) that is not charging her at all right now, as she has no income. Lastly, you could always go back and try to explain your situation to the first doctor you saw and see if he/she will work with you.

I'm so sorry that you were mistreated so badly. My mom's bad choices and poor judgment put me in the place I am today. I do understand.

You will find alot of resources in the information section on this forum.
 
I have no advice to give you, but lots of gentle hugs. You've been through such a lot - even though just how much probably hasn't dawned on you yet.

It takes time and patience to find a counsellor who understands you. I have no answers, but all the best of luck to you!
 
Littleb,

When you were writing this post, were you actually writing about me? I have been through such similar things and felt the exact same way you feel, Hun!

Getting help is hard, for everyone and I definitely understand where you're coming from. But unfortunately, when it comes to getting help, it's like you have to be the one to push yourself out of your comfort zone. And yes, I know, it doesn't always work. Trust me, I know. I've told myself "Okay, I'm just going to tell her what happened. It's not big deal. Just do it." And all of a sudden I have forgotten how to speak, my mind has shut off and the cat has got my tongue and is now running away with it.
Get out as much as you can. Remember that any progress is progress and that includes posting about this! Baby steps. Be proud of yourself that you have made this little progress. Still work on it getting bigger but don't rush anything. The littlest bit of growth is still growth right? You need to find that tiny little glimmer of hope you have left in you and hold onto it for dear life. It takes a lot of trying and a lot of work but the end result where all these feelings are gone or at least manageable is worth it in my opinion.

Hold on, Littleb. Take care of yourself.

Manic
 
Hi littleb

Well done for finding your way to the forum & the strength to tell your story. You'll find plenty of people to understand what you've been through & to help you through your difficult past & journey to recovery.

Although my trauma is different to yours I can help you with advice about therapy. I was diagnosed in Oct 08 & advised to find a therapist who specialises in PTSD. I saw one in a psychiatric hospital which made me feel I should book in & that I had completely lost it, I didn't feel comfortable there at all, so didn't return.

From there I did a google search & found a specialist clinic in my town, after speaking to my psychologist on the phone I made an appointment with her knowing that if I gave myself time to think about it I wouldn't go. By the time I saw her i had been off work for a year & was isolating myself at home only going out for drs appointments. Some people here talk about interviewing therapists but I think if I'd done that I would never have chosen one as I have great trust issues & find it difficult to form relationships, even professional ones.

I have to say I felt terrified about that first meeting which didn't change for a number of weeks. I don't think it would have mattered who or what she was like, I was just not used to talking to anyone in such depth about my past & found it a very embarrassing experience. I also worried about what she would think of me or worse still that she would say i'd made it all up or laugh at me, by then my trust in people was non existent. It took many weeks of her encouragement to be able to tell her my whole story & i fell a great relief when I had. By the time we'd gone through my second emdr session I felt more able to open up to her & she has never made me feel that what I'm feeling is wrong.

When I first started talking I remember saying to my psych 'I don't know how to deal with my trauma' in reply she said 'you can't 'deal' with them as that means getting rid of the memories, what you have to do is to acknowledge they happened & learn to live with the memories in a controlled way' I thought she was taking a load of rubbish but now that she has shown me how to do that I realise she is right. Traumatic memories cannot be erased but we can to learn to live with them without reacting to them.

The one thing we have disagreed on was taking meds. I resisted taking them feeling that I should be able to get through this on my own resources, however after she explain how they work & that they are just another prop to get me through this I started taking them they have been a great help in reducing my anxiety which allows me to engage in therapy more fully.

Things have improved tremendously since then & I finally feel that I'm beginning to recover although I'm realistic enough to know that it means managing my symptoms rather than being cured. Although I still wish I could deal with this on my own i know that making myself go every week regardless of how it makes me feel has been the best thing for me. I have recently returned to work & find it has been a great help in motivating myself to go out & mix with others & has certainly boosted my self-esteem.

PTSD & our trauma stories are depressing, shocking & for most people embarrassing but they are our stories & deserve the same respect as any other illness, none of us asked to be put in this position & part of therapy is to acknowledge that. Therapy does take time but when you consider how trauma affects every aspect of our lives & emotional intelligence its not surprising.

I hope that gives you some hope that change can happen, it takes time & patience from both you and those around you. Accept all the support & advice you can get, stay strong & bit by bit you will begin to recover.

Good luck finding a therapist you can work with & keep talking here, the advice & support here is incredible.

Cat
 
Dear LittleB

Hello and thanks for sharing your thoughts, feelings and story with us. It must have been difficult to write about your painful memories.

It’s obvious from your post that you are: intelligent; strong; and have good insight.

Although the experiences each of us on the Forum have gone through are somewhat or very different, I’m certain many of us can relate to the difficult struggle and feelings of hopelessness that you are feeling right now and that come from such a struggle.

I can also relate to much of what you wrote.

When I read stories of survivors, and when I think of my own story, I think of the movie Good Will Hunting.

At the end of the movie, Robin Williams (therapist) confronts Will (Matt Damon) about how painful his past was, and breaks down Will’s defenses by saying over and over again “All of this son…it’s not your fault…it’s not your fault…it’s not your fault.”

And Will eventually breaks down and sobs. Damon does such a fine piece of acting, that each time I watch that part, I get a lump in my heart, and cry.

I know the feeling of hopelessness all too well. It is awfully discouraging to wonder where to next look, what to next think, what to next change and how.

I have lived through 14 years of abuse, multiple traumas, feelings of intense fears/terror, great insecurity, deep shame, etc., and started my journey to recovery in my mid-20s.

And as I look back, I wonder how (and why) I hung in there, never truly giving up hope.

There are many answers of course, such as my childhood dreams, my sister and nieces who I adore, but the bottom line seems to be, in my case, that I love to love. Be it people, animals, things I like to do, etc.

Inside of me, I swore I would be everything my father wasn’t – and I eventually did that; refusing to repeat the cycle of abuse that was my possible legacy. The spirit in me refused to give up; refused to let my abusers win.

And when my time comes, when the end of my life nears, I’ll look back at what I am most proud of, and that will be the sufferings I went through, and that I did my best with what I had and was dealt with.

Hang on to whatever means something to you LittleB. People do recover and get healthier. You have tremendous strength. I can see that. You survived through some very difficult times. But you did survive.

I wish you all the best LittleB and thanks again for sharing.

Johnny
 
Hi Little B,

Welcome to the forum - you'll get a lot of support/advice here so you did the right thing

Helena
 
Thank you eveyone for all your hugs, great advice, and words of encouragement. I really needed that :smile:

I've really got to get back into a Dr. and get this sorted out. I do live in the US, and I've heard of the sliding scale payments, still not sure I fully understand what that is, but I will find out! I'll look up the county mental health center as you (sunnybrookfarm) suggested

I'm goin in tomorrow to file bankruptcy, or atleast get that whole ball rolling anyways. I think once thats started and on its way to being taken care of, this will be a little easier for me. I just feel overloaded. Feels like life bombarded me in the past several months, have been in and out of hospitals and my fiancee lost his job, some vehicle troubles, now the creditors are calling and it all just stacked up. Its at a place where there's so much *important* stuff that needs to be taken care of that I've thrown in the towel and refused to deal with any of it. I know its not the answer, but feeling so bad and having anything and everything else you had crash around you, it felt like the only way to keep sane.

Still doing nothing, gets you no where. I watched my dad, and I know that all too well. So am doing that tomorrow then I'm getting through the weekend and calling the hospitals behvioral health dept or mental health center and seeing what I can do to get this all started, again.

I think the Dr. telling me I had PTSD just scared me more than I was already. It was good in that I atleast knew what "it" was, for a while I thought I was just losing it, but as good as it felt to finally know it seemed equally bad. My dad has PTSD, and he's not in a good way, never has been and I dont know that he ever will be. He was never treated for it either though, he self medicated. Anyways, I guess just the thought that he had it and struggled with it as he did his whole life, made me feel like I was fated for the same. Again, I dont know that its his only problem, its certainly one of them, but I dont know if its the only one. Regardless what the problem is I watched him throw his whole life away, he has no "real" friends, just drinking buddies, no family that really speaks to him anymore and when I started thinking about that I thought I would rather die than become my dad. So, point is, its SUPER good to hear from others who also have PTSD, that its not the case for everyone, that you can get better, because hearing her (the Dr.) say that and not knowing you can get better made me pretty depressed.

I dont ever expect to be 100% "better", I know you can't erase what happened, I just want to move on with a normal functioning happy life like the next person. The way I thought I would when I finally left my family and started my own life. I would like to have my own family one day.

I guess that sort of got to me too. I waited my whole life to be on my own, thinking when I was finally out I'd be happy. Instead I got out and went from work-a-holic to alcoholic to just plain miserable. So, just wasnt what I expected, not what I had been hoping for, for all these years.

JohnnyM53 - you made me cry but it was in a good way lol. I love a lot of things too, my dogs, my hubby, just feels like it gets lost sometimes, or maybe not lost, but overwhelmed by it all. My whole life feels overwhelmed by it. I've got brothers also, who I love dearly, but there's so much guilt involved with them, even though I know it wasn't my responsibility, I was just a kid, I still feel the same way I used to. I am the same way with my mom, but there is some resentment there too now. Pretty much anyone in my family is on this unwritten no-contact list. I just can't seem to bring myself to do it, which makes me feel guilty, but, I dont know what else to do. Its all gotten to a point where I've isolated myself almost completely and I just want to get past it. Move on, be better.

I hate that tho, the phrase "move on". I have a room mate who (a day after being diagnosed) told me I needed to " move on, leave the past in the past, and stop dwelling on it". Like I want it to affect me now? So that didn't help, was just one more person that didn't understand to add to the list. Made me nervous about saying anything at all.

Anyways, thanks again everyone for responding, it means a lot ot me.
 
I also thought I was losing it. My mom has more mental diagnosis than I could even name off - and I was terrified I was just following that path. It was an odd sense of relief for me (relief that I wasn't losing it - but sadness that I had PTSD) when I was diagnosed.

A sliding scale fee - is where the look at your income and based on that determine how much you should be able to pay (it normally is much lower than walking into a "regular" doc and paying cash). I hope you are able to find someone that you are comfortable with and that can work with you.

I'm happy that you have a plan and recognize that you need help.

Oh btw - I hate the phrase move on also - if only it was that easy right?!? I've been told not to dwell on it for years. Again, like we would want to continue to remember these things and have them take over our lives - really?!? Unfortunately, some people will never understand - the important thing is that you are accepting this and seeking out help.
 
Hi, littleb,

Like Sticks and Stones posted, I have no advice to give you, at this time. I'm still searching for "the answers" myself.

I just wanted to tell you my heart aches for your pain. I do know that part all too well. Being abused as a child, and "malnourished emotionally" left me feeling the same about myself as you describe.

{{{{{HUGS}}}}}
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