Poll Trauma and the Paranormal

Have you ever had a paranormal experience?

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happened after a traumatic event. It made me more empathetic and hyper-vigilant, which I think heightened my sensitivity to those experiences
Interesting! I can see how that would be and relate on some level!

When I drove past I looked in the rear view mirror to see them because it was so out of place but they were gone. So weird
I had a similar experience once but it was with my friend. It was confounding.

Did it feel meaningful to you in any way or just strange?
 
This is a complex subject with no easy answers for me.

Did the paranormal event occur before or after my trauma? My short answer is no. Here’s why… my CSA trauma began at age 4, my older brother was terrorizing me by age 3, my near death illness during infancy might have traumatized me, then my speech and language difficulties as a toddler, later learning disabilities with enraged school teachers who didn’t understand, and on and on. My parents were always emotionally non-supportive.

Was I traumatized during the paranormal event? At times I think I was though not always. I still have some moments of amnesia.

What’s difficult is determining whether these experiences were internal or external events as they’ll often seen to overlapp or merge with each other. Then at times, I’ll experience what seems to be a total split from my physical body or physical reality.

Though not a paranormal experience, as a young teen, my first few episodes of sleep-paralysis were experienced as a frightening disconnection from my physical body. Though merely a neurological glitch this wasn’t well understood until the 1980s. I only knew that other family members also experienced it. No one in my family ever mentioned seeing an entity nor did I never see one. I stopped having sleep-paralysis by the early 1970’s. However, this momentary disconnection from my physical body might have made me more hyper-vigilant if more aware of other unusual experiences.

When I was about age 18, I had one sleep-walking experience during the middle of the night then caused me to question my reality. Nothing bad happened - I’d only experiencing myself as looking out the widow, in a different room, at something that shouldn’t have been there. However, I then very consciously recalled walking back to bed. Was this a dissociation episode and why would this occur during the middle of the night, as I was alone.

Later in 1978, I had again experienced a somewhat similar episode of ‘physical disconnection’ or dissociation during the night. I’d written about this experience on this forum.

I’ve only had a few very up-close and personal paranormal experiences throughout my lifetime - most pertains to someone’s death. The underlying reason for these events often seems to imply the message ‘be strong.’

No injures nor life-threading experiences that I can recall yet, my fear during one flashback was overwhelming. No actual physical touch that I can recall — visual images, yes; a few unusual sounds, yes; along with either an extreme state of calm or dissociation or with an extremely intense emotional state during that event.

But what’s so traumatizing is the ongoing after-effect and hyper-vigilance, unexplainable anxieties and never-ending questioning about what had actually happened. Then there is this feeling of isolation that occurs, due to my inability to share my concerns with others. This has consumes much of my energy over the years.

I do know that I’m not the only one having these paranormal experiences. A few of my experiences have been deeply traumatizing with on-going amnesia. However not every experience was traumatizing - some actually helped me to accept my hardships and helped to ease my pain and grief.

I’ve had very few paranormal experiences since abandoning most of my exploitive and abusive family, 24 years ago. I don’t know if my underlying family conflict was somehow related with my paranormal experiences or not. Actually, I think it was during this painful realization and awakening that my paranormal experiences were most frequent.

During the early 1970’s, I was then also struggling with the underlying truth behind my yet unrealized CSA experiences. My anxieties, panic attacks, hyper-vigilance, startle response and paranormal activity were all extremely high during that time.

I recall telling my therapist about my intrusive visualizations of a humanoid creature standing behind me. I just couldn’t understand why I was having these visualizations repeatedly and of why they were frightening me. I knew these were only visualizations.

I doubt that the paranormal experience most often occurs around traumatic events but rather more often during an extremely painful realization or awakening leading to personal growth, accompanied by a transcending awareness of the underlying truth.
 
more often during an extremely painful realization or awakening leading to personal growth, accompanied by a transcending awareness of the underlying truth

I’ve had very few paranormal experiences since abandoning most of my exploitive and abusive family,
Very much resonate with these points of yours!during the years leading up to and the years following my intense rupture with my father and ex-husband I experienced profound paranormal experiences that usually were something along the lines of “keep going”, like breadcrumbs encouraging me. And I have much less now that I’m away but the times I do are when I’m in a heightened state of stress of big change. When I’m in a kind of search mode for help.

I’m generally more scared by people than entities, but my heightened sensitivity does help me be aware of (what I deem to be) dangerous people sometimes before they appear.
 
Very much resonate with these points of yours!during the years leading up to and the years following my intense rupture with my father and ex-husband I experienced profound paranormal experiences that usually were something along the lines of “keep going”, like breadcrumbs encouraging me. And I have much less now that I’m away but the times I do are when I’m in a heightened state of stress of big change. When I’m in a kind of search mode for help.

I’m generally more scared by people than entities, but my heightened sensitivity does help me be aware of (what I deem to be) dangerous people sometimes before they appear.
I'm also more frightened of people than entities, these days. People can inflict far more injuries. I just wish I could sense the dangers before they appear, as well.

Walking away from these abusers takes an immense inner-strength and courage, as I’m sure you must know. As a child, however, walking away from my CSA was never an option for me. I hadn’t the inner-strength, wisdom nor independence to escaping it.

Sometimes I would be confronted with the ‘protective good father’ while at other times the ‘frightening bad father.’ At a child, I likely wouldn’t have been able to understand that these were the same person. And so, from my perspective these were two different people.

Perhaps this ’splitting’ of the ‘good father’ from the ‘bad father’ (if this splitting has occurred) might partly explain the frightening imaginary ‘dark shadowy monsters’ hiding under my bed or behind my closet door at night, while my protective 'good father’ was asleep in another room.

This being said, I’m not claiming that all entities are an imaginary manifestation of past CSA.
 
those are good insights @spinningmytires

My dad f*cked around with me when I was a baby and toddler and I repressed the memories until I was married with kids (and all of us living with my parents). So I didn’t have the wherewithal to escape until I was almost middle-aged.

I was raised Catholic but only my mom went to church with me, my dad was an atheist/agnostic and made fun of church until about five years before the rupture when he did the classes to be confirmed as an adult. I didn’t have paranormal experiences as a child. It only started in the years leading up to my memories being recovered.
 
I can’t recall any abuse before age 3 and a half but only my brother’s physical assaults. My first vivid memory of my father’s sexual abuse was at age 4. As far as I know he wasn’t touching me but merely fondling his erection in front of me. I can recall being very confused as to why he wasn’t protective me from this ‘monstrous erection’. I actual thought that his erection was an entirely separate entity. Yet he just stood there, as if, he just didn’t care that I was frightened.

I lived with my father until he died when I was 53. I wanted to get a place of my own yet, I haven’t any income plus I had horses I couldn’t afford to board. My father spent the last 18 years of his life too disabled to walk. So that was another reason why I stayed home and looked after him.

My therapist was aware of my father’s ongoing sexual abuse along with my other limitations and didn’t encourage me to leave home. There was nothing I could do to block my father’s sexual abuse. However, I did eventually begin sleeping in the attic to avoid him.

Looking back on this move to the attic, I think, this move might have greatly distressed my dog who felt she could no longer guard me as I slept. The attic steps were too steep for her to climb as well. Sadly, my dog became ill and died shortly there after.
 
@spinningmytires We have some things in common. The one memory which I fully recalled was my dad having me watch him cum while we were on his bed next to each other. I was 2. I have other memories less clear from earlier in which he was more hands on. He also beat me and humiliated me when I was older. I thought I would live with my dad until he died. I’m sorry your T didn’t encourage you to leave. I probably wouldn’t have left without my T’s encouragement. My dad lives less than a mile away from me now coincidentally and I see him on occasion which is always strange and surreal-ish when it happens. I am hyper vigilant about seeing him and avoiding him.

I have always felt like animals or plants are protecting me in some way, I never considered that paranormal. Have added rocks to that list of nature protectors and now various ancestors and spirits. My T encouraged that and I think it was really important because my “family” relationships were blown to smithereens—even with 2/3 of my children, though there is some recovery in that sphere.

You sleeping in the attic to avoid your father is profound to me. I wonder if you dream about it or about houses in general. Or if you dream about your dog protector. I used to keep reptiles and when I was living with my dad and ex-husband I regularly dreamed about being trapped in a world shaped like a box, sort of like the Truman Show movie. Never thought that maybe my dream psyche was *protecting* me by keeping me locked away in a box, because dad and ex-husband were never in the cages with me.

I have lost animal protectors for various reasons (some tragic) but have taken a different approach to animals in my life than many people I know. I do my very best to provide them quality care and comfort, but when they go I work hard to accept that they are wise in their comings and goings, there are no accidents in timing and they are also capable of providing protection from a distance of time and space. I feel this about certain trees too. And the animals are always waiting to enter into our lives again when we are ready, even just glimpses of wild animals.

I guess when your protector parent betrays you early in life your brain makes up “the good father,”(I like that metaphor), which for me is certain animals, rocks, plants, and spirits. Lately I am learning more and more how to be that for myself—difficult and ongoing lesson for sure.

Sending gentle care your way. Appreciate this conversation.
 
@spinningmytires We have some things in common. The one memory which I fully recalled was my dad having me watch him cum while we were on his bed next to each other. I was 2. I have other memories less clear from earlier in which he was more hands on. He also beat me and humiliated me when I was older. I thought I would live with my dad until he died. I’m sorry your T didn’t encourage you to leave. I probably wouldn’t have left without my T’s encouragement. My dad lives less than a mile away from me now coincidentally and I see him on occasion which is always strange and surreal-ish when it happens. I am hyper vigilant about seeing him and avoiding him.

I have always felt like animals or plants are protecting me in some way, I never considered that paranormal. Have added rocks to that list of nature protectors and now various ancestors and spirits. My T encouraged that and I think it was really important because my “family” relationships were blown to smithereens—even with 2/3 of my children, though there is some recovery in that sphere.

You sleeping in the attic to avoid your father is profound to me. I wonder if you dream about it or about houses in general. Or if you dream about your dog protector. I used to keep reptiles and when I was living with my dad and ex-husband I regularly dreamed about being trapped in a world shaped like a box, sort of like the Truman Show movie. Never thought that maybe my dream psyche was *protecting* me by keeping me locked away in a box, because dad and ex-husband were never in the cages with me.

I have lost animal protectors for various reasons (some tragic) but have taken a different approach to animals in my life than many people I know. I do my very best to provide them quality care and comfort, but when they go I work hard to accept that they are wise in their comings and goings, there are no accidents in timing and they are also capable of providing protection from a distance of time and space. I feel this about certain trees too. And the animals are always waiting to enter into our lives again when we are ready, even just glimpses of wild animals.

I guess when your protector parent betrays you early in life your brain makes up “the good father,”(I like that metaphor), which for me is certain animals, rocks, plants, and spirits. Lately I am learning more and more how to be that for myself—difficult and ongoing lesson for sure.

Sending gentle care your way. Appreciate this conversation.
I have no memory of ever seeing my father cum nor of him ever touching me inappropriately. Rarely was I ever touched by either parent or anyone else though my brother often randomly physically assaulted me - yet again not sexually until his late teens. As a toddler, I might have gotten a few hand-slaps but no beatings nor spankings.

My mother was the judgmental, criticizing disciplinary while my father was always extremely distant and aloof. The only time he’d take any interest in me was during his sexual arousal - but even then he was mostly secretive about it. Hugging was always brief. By age 11, there wasn’t any touching. Once when I was age 18, my father pulling me into his lap and started stoking the side of my head - this occurred during an argument he was having with his wife. I suspect he only stroked my head to irritate his wife. My parents avoided physical contact with each other, as well. My brother was the only family member who freely touched me though his contact was mostly violent.

Twice in recent years, I had attempted to hug my brother only to be quickly pushed away. There hadn’t been any disagreements or anything, he had just simply pushed me away for no apparent reason. Then at other times he will ask me for a hug. Honestly, I’m aware of the social customs yet, I very rarely feel any desire to touch another human-being - while I greatly miss touching my pets.

I never though about trees as being protectors before but without their shade I’d be burnt from the sun, if, outdoors for too long. Rocks as protectors? ..hum, well the earth itself as one big ‘rock’ we definitely need that!!

Rarely do I dream about people, a few dreams about deceased family members. The only dreams about my father occurred during my 20’s. Back then, more than once I dreamed I found my father laying dead, along side the highway, as if, he had been strike and killed by a car. This had actually happened to a few of my dogs. No dreams of sexual encounters that I can recall. My house, clothing and computer repairs, yes, many. I’ve had many very emotional dreams about my deceased horse. Last night I briefly recall dreaming about a USB thumb drive …was that a phallic symbol?!!

Black boxes, black cubes, black rectangles, like my black windows at night, make me feel unsafe. I’ve covered my windows so I won’t see their blackness at night. Many years ago, I had a frightening dream about entering a black rectangular opening. And when I got close to its opening, an entity suddenly grabbed me and pulled me into it against my will. There was nothing physically there for me to grab hold of to resist its force - then the dream ended.

But then later, during the mid 1990’s, I did see black boxes inside one transparent amber sphere in the night sky while I was awake. The black rectangular opening in my dream occurred much earlier and had appeared to merge with the ground itself, so much so, that I thought this black opening was some type of darkened underpass one might drive through on the highway. So I wasn’t frightened by it at first. But once I was forcefully pulled into it by the entity it seemed vast, as if it were a huge black empty infinite space.

As for this thought of being strapped or caged within a black box (I didn’t feel caged) rather for me, the problem seems to be, ‘How can I willfully escape this black box or black space while I am experiencing myself as not having a physical body?’

I doubt that my father ever intentionally tried to hurt or betray me. Other family member had intentionally harmed me, for sure. I think my father was mentally ill and lacking the necessary boundaries. He was too extremely aloof and too disconnected from his own feelings to experience any true intimacy with anyone, including his wife. My mother, on the other hand, was well aware of my CSA yet, she choose not to help me.
 
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I doubt that my father ever intentionally tried to hurt or betray me… I think my father was mentally ill and lacking the necessary boundaries. He was too extremely aloof and too disconnected from his own feelings to experience any true intimacy with anyone, including his wife.
From time to time I sink into thinking this way about my father but it doesn’t help me to think that he’s a victim of his own constitution (or his own pedophile father), because then I take up the role of his protector/teacher/apologizer.

But for you, based on what you said, it sounds like that’s an accurate representation. And your focus on “who’s the monster/predator/baddie” lies elsewhere.

Interesting about the black boxes. Can’t help thinking about 2001 Space Odyssey.

Horses sound pretty important to you, and what I would call protect spirits. They are so sensitive and powerful at the same time.
 
I suspect that my father mental illness was partly neurobiological, in that, he seemed to suffer from body sensations that wouldn’t upset most people. His wife would sometimes clip his fingernail and toenails while he would scream as if, this sensation was causing him extreme pain. He refused to touch water beyond shaving his face. To shower would have overwhelmed his nervous system too much He couldn’t easily tolerate loud sounds nor unexpected movements which made it difficult for his childhood.

He was always telling me to stop my fidgeting. Sitting perfectly still and being totally quiet was difficult for a child. His words were few. He rarely ever spoke to me. He couldn’t carry a conversation beyond a few words with an increasing agitation after only one minute or so. I had to keep my sentences short and concise with him. I think he might have also had some degree of narcolepsy.

I think my brother also has neurobiological problems that have causing his sudden uncontrolable violence and over-reactions to situations that wouldn’t upset most people. His mother kept him on a leash as a toddler. When he was 19, and once angered he put his fist through a glass door. He’s either enraged or emotionally flat and withdrawn with extreme personality changes from day to day. His biological son was diagnosed as bi-polar. Growing up with my brother has been difficult - for everyone in the family actually.

Over the years, pretending that everything has been perfectly normal within my family has been difficult, when feeling in my gut that something was very wrong. My remaining family believe they are all very loving people and incapable of intentionally harming another family member and that, anyone who doubts this is evil themselves.

However, the last time I spoke to my brother, he claimed that he never had a mother until he joined the Catholic Church (Mother Mary) two years ago. He seemed to suggest that he was abused as a child - emotionally neglected very likely as I was, but sexually, I think not. As a toddler he was always physically fighting or running away from his mother, which likely led to his leashing. Anyway…

I think I understand what you are saying about my splitting of the abusive 'bad father’ from my ‘good father’ where here, I would never be able to truly realize the existence of the ‘one-half’ because this ‘one-half’ or splitting only exists within my own mind.

I don't understand my dept of feeling for horses. which I had at age 4. My family never showed much interest in them. Interestingly, however, the horse's vitals are very similar to that of a human-being.
 
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