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Relationship Update: Thoughts On Breaking Up, Feelings Of Guilt

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armygf

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Hello Everyone,

Sorry I just sort of disappeared from the forum. A quick recap for those of you who may not know my story:

I was in a long term long distance relationship w/a woman in the Army. Shortly after she returned from Iraq last June she was diagnosed with PTSD. It was a struggle from the beginning, but in general, she was still a loving, caring person who I knew I wanted to be with, through thick and thin. Throughout the summer we saw each other about every 2-3 weeks, and in late September/early October she stayed with me (in what we considered "our apartment") for over three weeks recovering from shoulder surgery. She had trouble sleeping, she was jumpy and couldn't be around large crowds, but in general, in private, she was the same woman I fell in love with. However, in October after I had to take her back to her base things suddenly changed drastically, she was suicidal, she was mean, she cheated on me, she hung up the phone on me. She blamed me leaving her there in Colorado and going back to my life in Iowa for her suicidal tendencies. She has been in and out of either psych wards due to suicide attempts or treatment programs for PTSD since mid-October.

I tried my hardest to support her and love her and give her space but also be there whenever she wanted, I tried to listen and send her presents, I did therapy with her over the phone with her therapist, I updated her family on her condition, I tried to mediate between her and her sister. I tried. However, she just got worse. She hated herself, and she couldn't shake the suicidal tendencies. She got progressively more emotionally and verbally abusive to me. It was like a roller coaster--once every 8 calls or so, she'd feel like my girlfriend, she'd listen to me. The other 88 percent of the time, I had no idea who she was. That one call every so often gave me hope that I might be able to continue a relationship. But she just couldn't sustain a healthy relationship, she didn't know herself or love herself nearly enough.

Eventually I came to resent her--I felt like she didn't understand how hard it was to support her emotionally, I felt like she didn't know who I was anymore as I hadn't told her anything about myself for nearly all of October or November or December. I couldn't do it anymore, it wasn't a healthy relationship for me, and I broke up with her a million times. The problem was, due to the PTSD and medicine issues she couldn't remember that I was breaking up with her, and she'd call me the next day like we were still dating, and I'd break up with her again. I broke her heart like every other day for a month. Finally, I just had to stop answering the phone when she called. I haven't spoken to her on a regular basis since Christmas.

She called me the other day and I was on the phone with someone else and was expecting a call and I flashed over. She just yelled at me and told me I made her the way she is, I should have stayed with her, I destroyed her concept of home and family, she has nothing, no friends, and she has tried to kill herself twice over me. This is the person she has become. I can't do it anymore.

This has been the hardest decision of my life. And I do not want to discount the suffering that people with PTSD go through--it is intense, and consuming, and she probably gave me the most she could considering the circumstances. Her "most" just wasn't enough for me. It has been incredibly hard for me to realize this in a healthy way, without overwhelming guilt, without extreme worry over her current well being. Through therapy I've realized that for me, I made the right decisions.

I guess I just want to say, carers: if you're wondering if you're being codependent, if you're enabling--you probably are. If you feel like you should leave, you probably should. PTSD is not an excuse to treat your partner like crap, and that's what she used it as. Don't let your partner do that to you. You deserve someone who can handle you telling them that you love them, who can call you back if you call them, who won't cheat on you or be physically or verbally abusive. PTSD sufferers all have the ability to do that. Don't let them use their disorder as an excuse to treat you terribly, and don't stay in an abusive relationship. I've learned that love is (very sadly) not enough, at least for me. I just couldn't stay and wait for her to get stable. I couldn't see myself ever being comfortable having kids with her after all her outbursts and suicide attempts. I saw the future disappear. I am not at all saying that her struggle wasn't valid, but I just didn't need to be treated like she treated me. You don't have to let someone treat you terribly, either. If you're wondering if you should get out, you probably should.

I hope this isn't offensive, and I don't mean it as a blanket statement against having relationships with people with PTSD. Of course, it varies from relationship to relationship, person to person. But I'm the kind of person who needs to be able to talk to their partner twice a week, who needs to know that if I want to talk about something that happened in my day, my partner will be there. I'm the kind of person who needs some physical contact every once in a while. I'm the kind of person who needs to be able to trust that my partner won't kill themselves, won't cheat on me. Some of the stuff I've read on here made me feel extremely guilty for needing those things, made me feel like I was lacking some sort of self knowledge or confidence for needing those things. I'm not. Those are normal needs. Don't abandon what you know you need out of guilt for abandoning your partner. You cannot build any sort of relationship on guilt or pity.

In closing, (and sorry this is so long), I just wanted to say thank you. Almost everyone I spoke with on here privately and responded to my posts on the forum really, really helped me get through a really tough time. I do not mean my post to be derogative of the forum, I think it is excellently run and has tons of information. I am continuing to try and bring awareness to PTSD, especially how the military treats PTSD sufferers, and I think without the knowledge this forum provided me and the realization of how many people PTSD touches, I wouldn't be doing that. I will continue to check this every once in a while, just because I feel like my experience might help others. In general though, I've moved on with my life, so I'll not post super often. Feel free to private message me with any personal questions. Thanks again everyone.
 
Hi Armygf,

I've been wondering how you were doing and I'm so glad that you posted an update. You certainly were not treated fairly and you're right PTSD is not an excuse for bad behaviour and you've had your share. You should not feel guilty for ending your relationship I'm sure I'm not the only one here who agree that you went over and above the call of duty. Part of the reason I'm sticking it out with my partner is because he has not mistreated me, he's getting therapy and of course I love him. If at any time he emotionally or physically abused me then I'd have to cut and run. I think you did the right thing and once your ex is stable she'll probably come to realize the constant abuse you took.
 
Some of the stuff I've read on here made me feel extremely guilty for needing those things, made me feel like I was lacking some sort of self knowledge or confidence for needing those things. I'm not. Those are normal needs. Don't abandon what you know you need out of guilt for abandoning your partner. You cannot build any sort of relationship on guilt or pity.

You're right, Armygf - those are normal needs. They are not asking too much. I'm sorry to hear things did not turn out better with you and your former girlfriend, but what you say is very true...a relationship cannot be based on guilt, pity, a need to rescue, or anything of the like. It sounds as though you really did everything you could to make things work, and you can be proud of that. And good for you for sorting this out as clearly as you did :thumbs-up I know that could not have been easy.
 
I am sorry Armygf. Good on you for realising what was best for you which is very hard to do with a broken heart. Take care.
 
You did what was right for you, it does not matter how others would have handle everything. This was your relationship, your life, your decisions.

Good luck for the future and stay true to your self.

Amethist
 
ArmyGF,

I would venture to say that I am proud of you. How hard this has been for you but, in spite of the guilt you feel (and I hear and acknowledge that) you know you have done the right thing. No one could have tried harder. It just seems to me that you have come so far in your understanding of what was happening and it's effect on you.

Please keep in touch!

ISH
 
You gave it all that you had, and it didn't work out....There may come a time that she will look back on this, and think of all that she lost, but it will be up to her to own it. I hope that in the future, you can find some peace, and happiness....Take care of you first.....
 
Armygf,

I haven't been on for a long while, but you have certainly crossed my mind over the past few months. I have to say that I am EXTREMELY proud of you for taking a stance, acting on it, and sticking to it.

Love can get us through so much, but we all have to come to terms with what is healthy with our sufferers and what is not. I am in your shoes now. My BF is not being physically abusive, but I would consider his violent outbursts when he's drunk to be. I no longer trust him and have come to expect being let down.

I went through that already with my ex husband and I'm not prepared to spend the rest of my life like this. I am at a difficult crossroad with my BF, but I hope to find strength in stories like yours.

Thank you for always being so open and honest with us. I admire you for sharing your journey with us. Take care and good luck with everything!

Cynthia
 
My BF is not being physically abusive, but I would consider his violent outbursts when he's drunk to be. I no longer trust him and have come to expect being let down.

I went through that already with my ex husband and I'm not prepared to spend the rest of my life like this. I am at a difficult crossroad with my BF, but I hope to find strength in stories like yours.

Oh dear Cynthia.....violence is violence, with out without alcohol. Please take care and find the strength to do what is best for you. I know that it is hard being single and alone but, from being in abusive relationships myself, the best advice I can give is get out when you see the signs as it never gets better and it also destroys you the longer you stay.
 
Cynthia, I just wanted to second what Nicolette said. I too felt just like you and said just what you said about my soon to be ex husband. What I am now seeing, the more time that passes from the day I asked him to leave, is that he was an abusive man. Violence is violence, he may not have "beat" me as he was always reminding me, however, he was very abusive in oh so many other ways. I too had been in abusive past relationships and told myself I would NEVER allow another human to abuse me and somehow he managed (actually, I allowed him) to snake his way in and abuse me. I would hear myself say: But he wasn't hitting me, he was just grabbing my arms, shaking me some and yelling!!!

My oh my, was I in a mess emotionally. I allowed his mess to make my mess worse and we were just going in circles, downwards. I use to justify his every action in hopes it would get better, hoping he would be different then all the others. When I felt close to the bottom of the pit again (hospitalization), I knew it was time to have him leave. It was my sanity and the safety of my daughter at stake. It is amazing at how things started changing in me once he left. Still have my mess, but it is on such a small scale now.

Please do whats best for YOU.
 
Nicolette,

I need to clarify in case the lines were fuzzy, my BF has never hit me. His outbursts are aggressive, but not physical. Either way, you are absolutely right. I've been doing quite a bit of soul searching and know that even without the physicallity being an issue, there is no room in my life for this kind of behavior.

I intend to have the "everything changes NOW or I walk" talk with him soon (won't see him until late tonight or late tomorrow). It is is final chance to step up his treatment, do something about the boozing, or check himself in.

F.Y.I. his therapist recommended he check himself in a little over a week ago and he refused. I would be willing to give the relationship a fair shot if only he were willing to admit he can't do this on his own and get the help he so much needs.

Thank you for your input. I am taking it all in.

Cynthia
 
Hi Cynthia

There are no fuzzy lines for me with abuse. Verbal abuse is just as damaging (and sometimes more so) as physical abuse.

I have been through both and verbal has left bigger scars than the physical did.
 
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