News Worldwide impact of the novel coronavirus (covid-19)

[lostforgottensoul]

Am I the only one who is coping in really shitty ways?

Not at all!

ETA: Also add guilt that I still have a job on top of that.

ETA2: @blackemerald1, so sorry to hear! Thoughts are with you! :hug:

 

[Teasel]

Condolences @blackemerald1 So sorry for your loss

 

[Ronin]

Condolences to your loss, @blackemerald1.

May everything good they was and had done stay with you all.

 

[Muttly]

I am so sorry @blackemerald1. My heart goes out to you and your family

 

[Deanna]

Whats interesting about the TP article is that the same thing is happening at dairies around the states - milk dumping even though demand is high.

scary :(

Vitamin D is essential for the immune system. Now, it's being dumped down the drain.

 

[Friday]

Vitamin D is essential for the immune system. Now, it's being dumped down the drain.

Nah... The don’t add vitamins to milk they’re dumping. A&D are supplements added to most milks. Not composite.

Milk’s perishable, and cows have to be milked. If there’s no market for it? You don’t just stop milking them, letting your cows udders explode or infect, killing them. You keep milking them, but instead of selling it? You dump it. And dump it. And dump it.

1/3 of the market Is just GONE, overnight.

So we’re absolutely flooded with milk. The processing plants are full up. Nowhere for dairies to sell it to.

We’ll probably have a run on dairy in once the crisis is over... farms will gradually wean cows off, but that takes time to do right. Just like it takes a solid year to get them milk ready. So for about 2 years, once this is over? There will be a shortage, which means prices through the roof. But right now? We simply have too much.

Local dairies, who process their own milk? (Pasteurizing, homogenizing, supplementing... And then producing their own saleable milk, cream, cheese, etc.? Will probably stay afloat. And the mega corps will do the legal dance of “restructuring” and stay afloat. But the vast majority of dairies who are contracted/suppliers of those mega corps? Will go under. Or become local dairies. But most will go under. Most of their lands and livestock will be repossessed by the banks, and sold off at auction, bought up by mega corps who -through legal dances- are now debt free and subsidized by govt. money. But thousands upon thousands are going to lose the family farm.

One of the best things for average people to do? Buy from local dairies. Most of them have weekly delivery, like milk men of old. Which is perfect for the local crisis. Go to their websites, and get milk/cream/cheese delivered to your door once or twice a week. The mega corps will always survive, they’ve got teams of lawyers who assure it. But local farms depend on local people.

 

[DharmaGirl]

I'm so sorry for your loss, @blackemerald1. May you continue to be well.

 

[Justmehere]

In my area, about 1/2 in ICU end up dying. Link RemovedI hope and pray he pulls through. Whatever one’s politics are right now, losing a major leader like this would be a huge blow.

 

[Friday]

The local job market is interesting... it’s 90% nurses of all levels & $20 an hour Amazon delivery.

Also? Meat-Rabbits have shifted from $2.50 each, to $50 each.

 

[Justmehere]

Because this is a discussion thread, and because I care, I’m not going to let these comments pass by without a challenge.

my own selfishness at my own needs, which do not compare and should not matter;

Making yourself out to be small and unworthy doesn’t save a single life. Your needs matter. Period.

I'm really struggling with how overwhelming this feels. I feel like I am not entitled to be as impacted as I am.

I feel really guilty for being prepared. I feel like somehow that makes me bad.

You know what it did? It made you a bass ass survivor. You were not someone running around in a panic in the hordes of people stressing to get everything needed. You were ready. You were able to take a measured approach and free up people to deal with those in a fretful panic or without what they needed. You did something really good for society. You also did something really good for you. That deserves to be celebrated.

I can't help other people right now beyond phone calls and moral support and that feels like a deficiency in character.

Straight up, I really hope you challenge this thinking. Being home and away from others straight up saves lives. Reduces transmission. Talking to people offering moral support frankly likely helps them hang on through too, and avoid going to hang out in crowds of infectious people in grocery stores for social contact, even if they may not admit it.

Doing what public health officials have asked people to do, and being a survivor, is something to celebrate. Not something to get stuck in shame about.

The “small acts” of getting through a crisis like this are actually exactly how people do it well throughout history. You may not be on the “front lines” but you are certainly helping the cause.

I have a friend who is super depressed but talked recently about how he joins in the fight by doing good self care so he can avoid getting sick and isn’t taking up another hospital bed. He said he thinks of every solitary hike on remote trails, every trip avoided in public, every phone call for mutual support, as a way he can support his city fighting the virus, and he’s damn right. It may not be as *glamorous* as someone shoving a ventilator down someone’s throat to keep them away from death, but I’d argue it’s just as valuable. Even if somehow you did catch it, but are delaying catching it and helping yourself and others be as strong as they can be emotionally to get through it.

You are helping already. Please don’t shame yourself - that does not help. Not one bit.

 

[DharmaGirl]

About the milk, pigs will use it but farm animals are getting so expensive!!

 

[anthony]

Now we're starting to level off our infection rate, we have a tough choice to make. The only way beyond this is herd immunity, whether by immunisation (12 - 18 months away) or we start to lift restrictions for slightly more interaction than we have now, so the numbers go up, slightly, but keep it controlled, accepting deaths will happen. Riding this out as is, is not really an option, because immunisation is an unrealistic distance away which would collapse any countries economy.